The ball links I used are Du-bro #369. They are a 2-56 ball link for a 4-40 rod . The bolt that holds the ball is 2-56, but the plastic part threads onto a 4-40 rod. You still have to drill the hole out slightly to get the 2-56 through, but it isn't much. I also added a 2-56 washer on the top of each ball link to ensure that it is captive even if it popped off of the ball. The washer limits the range of motion slightly, but things line up well enough that there is no binding. After assembly and getting the pushrod length finalized, I tighten them down hard and apply GREEN LOCTITE. It's very thin and is designed to wick into pre-assembled fasteners.

The pushrods are from central hobbies.

www.centralhobbies.com

The titanium 4-40 ends are glued into the 3/16" OD carbon fiber tubes with JB Weld. I ordered the pushrod kit (2 rods, 4 ends) and 4 extra ends to do the ailerons and elevators. The kit comes with 2, 24" CF rods of which I used a total of about 6 inches of one of them.

Richard
Tomball, TX

Robby,

I went down there on Sat - lots of wind. Sunday I flew my mini into a tree by a park by my house. Lots of fun...

Anway, if the weather is good on Sat - I'm going to 107th early in the AM - like 6:30AM. Weather is going to be in the 70s... Let's meet down there.

Drew

I just weighed my Cap for those interested. It was 11lbs 12oz. Flies nice at that weight.

What motor are you running?

Running the OS 160 w.bisson pitts and Perry pump.

do you have pics of your engine setup with the Perry pump?

I will get you a picture tomorrow.

might as well do it now before I forget... here you go

Drew...
6:30 AM... ??
As in dawn,, daybreak, before noon..?

I do have to work on Sat but not till 11:30..

Wayne,, you guys wanna do Sunday at Manteno..?

Richard,
Thanks for the reply Re: the pushrods. I bought the Du-bro 5/32 axles but they won't fit in the gear. Did you have to drill yours out to fit? I assume that the axels go in the bottom hole on the gear?

Thanks,
Scot

Terminator,

I can't recall the size but yes, drill out the bottom hole until the thread end can JUST pass thru. Then it is held in place with a nylon locknut.

The pant should be "notched out" too to tightly fit over the outer hexshape.

The upper hole is for a screw to "lock" the pant in place and prevent it from rotating. (But if you notch out a nice little hex shape in the pant, it will help too..

See here:

I ordered a Moki 1.80 for my CapX and I am trying to decide which Bisson muffler to order. The 1180 which is the standard Pitts or the 1184 which is the 70 degree type. I remember reading an earlier post that mentioned trouble with the 1180 and I thought it said that the 1184 might work better. Has anyone tried the Bisson 1184 with a Moki 1.80? I would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

I just bought the Moki 1.8 @ 1184 muffler from Chief. I sure hope it fits. I think it's going to be tight.

Could not get a super tigre 3250 till june so that's out. How is the vertical with the OS 1.60? With the OS 1.60 should you mount the reciever batt up by the engine? Thanks for the help

Get the Moki - otherwise you be adding lead up front!

Yeah, you will need to mount the battery as far out front as possible, and if you put the servos in the tail you will need to add some lead. The verticle was unlimited and pull out was great. If you really wanted to make it light you could mount the elevator servos up under the canopy and use carbon fiber push rods back through the fuse. That would elinate the lead and balance fine with the light engines like the 160 fx or the saito 180. I had planned on doing mine that way but I got lazy and just put them in the tail, with the added weight. To be honest if flys so well where it is I don't know if I would mess with it.

My hobby shop was able to get me a OS 1.60 so I went with that. I have a 4 cell sub C reciever pack I was going to use in my fury extreme that I'm now going to put in the plane. It weighs more than the AA type reciever packs. I probably will moiunt the elev servo's under the canopy and use the push rods. Will I lose precise control of the elev using pushrods? Bryant how does it hover with the 1.60 will it pull out of a hover?

Well, I've only flown it 1 day and it was pretty windy, but best I could tell it hovers at a little under 1/2 throttle and pulls out pretty quickly. The 1.60 does have plenty of power to get you out of trouble. It is a great match for this plane. I would recommend putting a pump on it though. I have had 3 of these, the first 2 would not run worth a hoot without the pump, and I didnt even try it without the pump on this one. Although some people say they didn't need a pump on theirs, but $25 is cheap insurance.

What batt does the pump run off of? The reciever pack or it's own pack? The pump would be good in another way in that it would add more weight to the front

The pumps do not run off of a battery. Perry makes the vp 30 which runs off of crankcase pressure from the engine. and they make the vp 20 which simply operates off of engine vibration. With the vp 20 you just mount it from the engine backplate and hook the fuel lines to it and that is it. Very easy to hook up. With the vp 30 you have to drill and tap the backplate for a pressure fitting, which is not that big of deal either. Both work well and I think they are the same price, if I remember correctly.

which pump do you have pictured, the vp20 or 30 I'm guessing the 20?

Actually the one in the picture is the vp 30. I bought this engine used from Ebay and the pump came with it. I had the vp 20 on an OS 1.60 I had last year. If you need any other pictures I will be glad to help.

After finishing mine, I stood back and said WOW what a cool looking plane. Then I weighed it and said SH!!!OOT. My 10 1/2 pound plane just went to 11 1/2 pounds[&o]. Then I went to balance it and said DOUBLE SH!!OOT. I had to add another 8 to 10 ozs of lead to get it to 3 to 3 1/2" balance point. I hate lead[:@]! I have a Saito 1.80 in mine with everything pushed up up front. I built this thing as light as I could and bought ultra light wheels, tail wheels battery pack, ect... Is anyone else a little frustrated at the 10 1/2 pound claim and the adds and website recommending lightweight glow engines???

I didin't have to add any lead with the Moki, but I was initially dissapointed in the 12lb-1oz weight[]......until I flew it.... After doing my first ever waterfalls and harriers I haven't thought of the weight again. Heck, last Sunday I flew it backwards in a harrier. It is so overpowered with the Moki, that I'm having troubles regulating the throttle in a harrier. One ratchet click up and it flies out.......

Richard

Shawn,

First keep in mind that a plane this size can easily vary 8 oz. in wood/assembly adhesive. That's the nature of ARF's. If someone was to offer ARF's with handpicked wood... you could count on paying double the price.

Also consider that Chip's recommended setup may very well NOT be the lightest it could be setup.

For instance... You could use one of the new JR DS8611 220+ oz servos up front with a dual pull-pull cable setup on the elevator like Dave Patrick has on his Ultimate 1.20 (ALOT lighter than a pushrod system and perhaps more precise. Not only would you save 3-4 oz. in the tail (12 to 16 in the nose), but reduce overall weight by almost 1-2 oz. by only using one servo and no long extensions.

Carbon fiber gear might save a couple oz. too...

There alone is 16-20 oz of weight savings... say you got a 4 oz lighter airframe and you are under 11 lbs...

Maybe some lion batteries, carbon prop/spinner... and you get around 10.5 lbs...

It CAN be done... if someone really wants that weight...

But as the reports are coming in... at the 12lb + mark it's an amazing performing plane... and that's REALLY what counts isn't it?

I've seen people get SOOO mired in weight/no lead issues that they really lose out on the enjoyment of flying a plane.

For me the CAP-X is one of the highest quailty ARF's I've seen... It's also perhaps the most attractive CAP offering I've seen... (am I the only one that just LOVES that pearl white?)

And I can't wait to fly it... VERY soon....

SO my suggestion... go out and fly it a dozen times... then come back and report whether you are dissappointed...