Sounds like a good idea Ross. I've just got used to tying them off to the top of the stab. Yet I worry about tripping on it when I hold it with the back of my legs. Here's a pic of how my battery and antenna wire is done. The other photo is our stuff charging. That's my Jerry's Big Boy and VF Extra and RVator's US 60 and Goldberg Extra 300. When we actually went, we only took the two extras and my BB. Lucky I did because the YS wasn't cooperating that day. I hope to maiden it next week some time. Well,,, when my new tank arrives.

on my edge... I just ran it inside a tube down the inside of the fuse... nothing showing.. no problems for me

I've just finished mine as well. hope to maiden it this sunday. I'll post results

I've heard of some interference from them run inside the fuse on some models. I'll post when I maiden mine next week I hope.

there can be...depends on the construction... proximity to control rods, carbon fibre, etc...

but I have had no problems yet...

I got in the maiden + some this morning before the rain and wind arrived. Overall, awesome plane. First takeoff, got speed up and tail lifted off ground, up elevator, more up elevator then finally a low angle takeoff just before the end of the field. It needed much up elevator trim and a smidge of right aileron. Based on some field tests, I think a thin shim under the wing hold-down bolts to decrease the incidence will cure the elevator problem. Knife edge was very good, just a slight tendency to pull to the wheels (another indicator of incidence problem). rolls are nearly axial. Snap rolls are almost instantaneous on high rates and no aileron is necessary. I put in the 2 degree right thrust, but I think 2.5 or 3 degrees will be necessary. Zero down thrust is correct. I won't change anything until I can test under calmer conditions. Plane tracked straight in loops, no deviation. Inverted flight requires a bit more down elevator than I would like but I will ignore for now. Vertical was unlimited with the O.S. 1.2 FS and a 16x6 APC prop. I must keep the speed up on landing (as I suspected with a 9# 4 oz weight) as it tends to tip stall to the left. Found this to be true on takeoff too if not enough speed is acquired before liftoff. I still have several more tests to do before it's trimmed out but I will say the aileron and rudder high rates are too low. I like one roll per second or or more on high rates and it rolls at about 3/4 roll per second. Rudder high rate is not enough to maintain level flight in knife edge. The aileron differential per the manual was ok, i need some fine adjustment on mine to track straight. Couple of pics of the engine install

Nice job and a good post report on the maiden.

Hi this Suit on RVs pc. I haven't had the chance to maiden yet. The engine wouldn't run very well last time out. I found the elevators already loose from the soft balsa and am in the process of scabing on some light ply to strengthen them up. When testing the engine useing the tail trap, it dented the horizonal stab pretty bad from the balsa being so soft. My fuse is crushed in two places and I haven't even flown it yet, again from being so soft I believe. It seems each time I work on it I find something else that needs to be addressed before I can fly it. I plan to strengthen the rudder also because I don't trust the balsa to hold the little horns with two screws. I'm changing them to the H 9 ones that came with my US 120. Anyway, if and when I finish modifying this thing I'll maiden it and let you all know how it flys.

I also used Dubro heavy duty horns, I don't trust those plastic ones that come with the kit.

Yeah the ones that came with it were dubro but they were a little cheezy and weak. I have some hd dubro ones but they were on my US120 and too big for this plane. I used the carbon fibre rods and titanium ends from CH on the US.

I have been flying my VF 66 Extra for over a year and enjoyed it very much. I also have their 540 Edge but the Extra keeps calling me. I used most supplied hardware but made some changes. Sullivan tail wheel, 4-40 rods and ends, TNT HD landing gear was the best investment of all. If you havent flown your VF yet get another gear set before you start nicking props... Other than that its all stock. Today I had a flame out on take off with the OS .91 and it took a hard landing. When the gear came out it took out the tail too. I am just going to order another kit now as is just more cost effective that way. I guess the trick is if you can keep this bird from any kind of crashing this is a great ARF for the money, but it doesent take much of a hit to do it in. I still give the VF 66 Extra a 9 out of a possible 10 and VF customer service is just a 10 no doubt about it.

suitcase: HELLO. Did it fly yet?
Ron

Hey 4Stroke, no, unfortunatly it hasn't flown YET!!!. When out to our field Sunday and couldn't get the YS to cooperate again. I plan to pull it from the plane and put it back on the stand. I've run almost a gallon of fuel @ $18.95 and still can't get it to run right. Soooooooooo, I gassed up my Big Boy and it's not running right either but I"m used to how it acts so I felt confident it would fly. As soon as I got airborne, about 100ft, she quits. I mean it sounded like I hit the switch. No stuttering or nothing, just silence. Well I turned back to the field in westerly direction and was way too fast. It set down past the end of the strip and I think all would have been ok but it rolled over some deep ruts made by a truck or something and out came the gear and mount. A little crush spot on the leading edge which I won't bother to fix and, a very small hole in the cover of the wing. Sooooooooooo, I've got five planes and only one flying at this time,,, the Twist.[&o]

Suitcase, would you mind paying the GBB tread a visit? I have a queston posted there that I need some help on.

Thanks,
Bill

Well I worked on my BB this past weekend and got the YS on my 300 back on the test stand. It's raining now so now way to try it out. Hopefully tomorrow. Almost got the BB back in shape. The G26 is causing me grief though. Friggen insulator is cracked again.

Hey 2fast, which model TNT gear did you use?

It was the standard bowed style. http://www.tntlandinggear.com/Gear/s...d_bowed_60.JPG
You just need to double check the demensions as I cant remember if I went with the 90 or 60 size. I think I went with the 90 as its 3/16 thick.. Made a huge difference in how many props I nicked....

It seems some folks are still replying to this thread so I'll update my plane. On it's maiden flight it rolled shortly after take off and eventually went in. Broke the wing in half at the glue joint and destoryed the fuse from canopy to firewall. The YS sustained $158 in damage and broke the RX. I was flying without the cowl and spinner. I'm blaming it on radio problems. All was brand new Hitec flight pack, digitals with 1750mah battery. It just became uncontrollable and the flight lasted only about 15 secs. Extremely disappointing considering the length of time I worked on it. Looking for something else for the YS 110 now.

I had the same problem although it was upon landing. I've ben flying tail draggers for a while along with various warbirds and felt comfortable flying the Extra. I had the plane setup with the required CG and on low rates. The take off went fine but needed quite a bit of up elevator trim to get it to fly level. I flew it 5 times around the field at altitude then started my approach on the downwind leg.

Downwind to base went fine, but when I turned final it rolled hard right nose down and went in. I was about 35-40 ft up and once it started to nose in I didn't have any control at all. I assume that I just got it too slow for it's liking at those settings. Luckily the wing remained intact, it ripped the wing holdown out which took the brunt of the hit, but I had some hard impact damage to the firewall back to the cockpit on the right side.

The plane has since been fixed and I do all of my flying on high rates and moved the CG back about 1/4" which took some weight off the nose. I didn't change any of my approach speeds, but on high rates I have much more control. I think the nose heaviness of the plane along with the low rates at that approach speed all combined to the crash.

All in all I am happy with the plane and it still flies great after the repairs.

Slow air speed and low rates killed mine too. VF web site or instructions actually tell you if a dead stick happens switch to high rates as low wont function without prop wash. Still alot of fun to fly though.

Yeah I had even read that before I flew, but no time to do so. So I stay on Hi rates at all times. I even had prop wash.

Sounds like the infamous down wind turn problem

Greg

Well as you read mine was on take off. I was doing a very shallow climb out so speed wasn't the problem. The YS 110FZ was running great, no sputtering at all. Definatly wasn't engine problem. It rolled without any warning at all. It reacted to my radio inputs but kept on doing it's own thing each time. Glad to hear you all have had better experiences with yours. We thought that the recommended throws were too small. 3/8" for ele seemed to little, but everyone I read said more than that caused pretty radical movement on maiden, so stick with it till you get used to the way it flys. I had high rates set at 3/4". Never really had time to switch.