Gees Ian, you'd better put on your kevlar body armor after that one.

To any other Aresti owners or future owners, I have also heard the reports of the tail being weak and I was skeptical at first. However the other day I went to step in front of the horizontal stab to run up the engine and clumsy me, the stab got in my foot's way. I completely stepped on the left side of the stab and the only damage it sustained was a minor crack at the root of it. I had not flown that day and I still had the itch so I flew it anyway. It flew like normal for about 2 months in this condition until I remembered the small crack and repaired it with thin CA.

FWIW, I really enjoy this plane.

sdt22:

I have to tell you that I'm with Ian, There is absolutely no excuse for selling an inferior product PERIOD!!!!
If Mfg.s can't build their product up to standard and in such a way that it will do what it is intended to do then they should not be in the business "after all it is an airplane and an airplane is supposed fly" and it is advertised as almost ready to fly, FLY. are we to be satisfied with one take off and no landings?? Of course if the product continues to sell they will continue to produce it. the only way to force a correction is to complain to the company and tell everyone you come in contact with.
It just blows my mind that anyone would make an excuse for this kind of business practice.

Miloh.

To everyone see this link.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...896&forumid=57]

dcknowles, the flying wires go from fin to stab to bottom of fuse. There is typically a small #2 bolt on the fin and each side of the stab. In this photo, I used #2 screw and #2 solder clevises with 2-56 end-threaded rod. One end is soldered, the other is adjustable. The clevises have had the "pin side" arm cut off with a dremel. The other "arm" has had it's hold drilled out a tad to fit the #2 screw. On the bottom of the fuse, I simply screwed through the clevis arm into the fuse.

See the photo below of my SIG SE (yea, it's not a good wire demo photo, but it works)

Hey guys, my Aresti is fine with no flying wires. Maybe I'll add some?

Here's a close-up of the stab bottom threaded end. It helps to have some hardwood for the screw to tighten down on. I'm sure there are other ways to do this.

Miloh,

In no way was I sticking up for the poor (extremely?) customer service that wart hog had mentioned! I totally agree that there is no excuse for that! My statement was just in reference to the stab issue.

sdt22:

Sorry for the confusion I was refering to your coment about the kevlar suit, But check post 20, this is where I got the problem with excusing the Mfg.

Miloh.

Let's see where do I start?There are so many things discussed.I'll pick two.
First of all I have two Aresties.One with a TT60bb,the other powered by a YS63.Both planes are amazing.The two stroke will do,and has been clocked at 119mph!!(clocked even faster with a TH61bb)The four stroke powered version is for practicing pattern(fits in the car with baby seat and golf clubs).The flight characteristics of both planes are great.These planes fly where you put them.
Balancing is crucial,both ways!!
Sorry to hear about the problems!I know it's been said but keep complaining.If you spend your money,you should get a good product.Period!!!
But you did the right thing by telling people about your problems on this forum,word gets around fast here.I'm sure hanger9Aresti sales where affected!Sometimes one bad incidence and people will take there moey elsewhere!
About the planes flying without adjustments or modifications.If you buy all the same servos,motor and recommended equipment,Maybe!!But start switching up motors.You need to make sure your plane is balanced . Well!!!But the plane falling apart is inexcusible!!

I recently purchased an aresti. Had it at the field for the first time this last Wednsday. The fire wall seperated from the fuse and broke the servo mount tray. This was supposed to be its maiden flight. Glad I didn't get it off the ground.
Horizon wants me to send them the fuse so they can inspect it to determine cause. We will see what they say.

Would not purchase another after this experiance.

estacy

Okay
You guys got me worried now!

I recived my Aresti 40 some seven-eight months ago with a new YS FZ63/JR 811 servos, just waiting for other projects to be finished up first. Guess I'll go over it with a fine tooth comb when the time comes.

I thought this would be a decent cheep way to see if pattern would be for me, before getting the six foot crow bar out on my wallet for a real pattern plane!


Doug

EEK! The sky is falling again? Sorry, guys, that some of you got a bad one. Truly, that's sad and Horizon has a problem whether they admit it or not.

But if I ever put a plane together and the firewall fell out the first time I started the engine, I'd go back to assembly school.

There are plenty of Arestis out there flying very nicely with no issues. Can anyone name an ARF or a kit-built which hasn't had some bad examples? Take care when you put a plane together and check it out before you fly.

Remember, Horizon's Chinese sweat shop put the parts together; Horizon probably spot-checks some; you assemble it and fly it; but it's safe operation is your responsibility.

(asbestos suit on - let the flames begin...)

I dont want to flame H9 but I have their P51 here and I am very decepointed about the overall quality of the plane. A quy here at the field got the Alpha trainer and all I can say is:

Cheap! cheap! cheap!

Well, I quess you get what you pay for but I can't accept they put cheap toy retract on a P51 at $500 buck!!

I have 11 ARF in the hangar:

http://www.wspromotion.com/SansNom.html

I surely won't get another one from Hangar 9 specially with companies like Great planes, Kangke, Dave Patrick etc...

Just my 2 little cents

Serge

BGI
You're right, safe operation is our responsibility but inferior building on the part of an ARF manufacturer falls in the manufacturer's lap.

Let's say for example you purchase a new "Wizz-Bang" .60 engine and on your first trip to the feild, the head blows off and hits someone seriously injuring them. Turns out the head was installed with aluminum bolts.
Is it our responsibility as "safe operators" to diassemble a new motor and perform a Rockwell hardness test on all components before using them?

The manufacturer has the responsibility of providing customers with a safe dependable product in a hobby where we hold safety with such high regaurd.

I'm with Serge1, I don't want to flame H9 but they do have a Safety factor to consider when the Chinese sweat shops slap another 5,000 of these mass produced babies together.

I have the P-51 also and yes I did make a few mods the the gear to get it to work right, but that should be the most you should ever have to do to an ARF.

OK, I'm outta wind.....

i am now under the impression that manufacturers should supply a 1 or 2oz bottle of CA with ARF's and in the instructions show where strength could be added... then the liability would be passed onto the builder and not the manufacturer...

Wart hog: True true true! However, I would expect that a firewall insufficiently glued would be easier to detect than poor head bolts. Pin those firewalls!

cheers