RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

F101 - Could you post a picture of the 3W in your Cub with the cowl off ?
Thanks

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Yes, I will post the pic. later today. I had to build an engine box for it. I hope it is not really too overpowered, was quite a job...:(

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I have an evolution 25cc gas. See post #667.
It' not overpowered, it is just right.
However, cubs do not like power, they like slow and smooth!
Happy flying
George

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

It sounds good!. A little throttle management always help. I will use Mens S 18x8 . I have some pictures for you here.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Fl101,

That looks great. I'll bet that you're going to be pleased with that combination. Thats the first blue and white clipped wing I've seen. It looks good.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Fl101 - Thanks very much. Nice set up.

Crankpin (Vince)
Hobe Sound, FL

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Hill,
Plan on flying the cub this weekend?

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I plan on it, weather permitting. We are in this cycle of great weather during the week and bad on the weekend. Last weekend the winds were 25mph+. Forecast says rain this Sat. I think Sunday is the best day. Its hard for me to go during the week. Stupid job is really interfering with my flying
:D

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Hill202,

I have a clipped wing with a new 1.60 twin and the same standoffs you have used. My question is how did you position the engine on the mounts in order to mount the engine and what did you use to secure the mounts and standoffs to the cub? I have read through this thread and cannot figure out the process to mounting this engine with the standoffs on this plane. My dad and I hope to get this done this weekend but are a little confused. Under usual circumstances we would clamp the engine on a standard two piece mount then sit the clamped motor on the fire wall and make fine adjustments until we liked its position. THis process cannot be done with standoffs. Your help would be greatly appreciated and also your cub is beautiful. Also, have you had any problems with the wheel pant mounts cracking off of the gear? We have and JB Weld seems to have worked for the short term, we'll see how it holds up after a few flights.

Thanks Very Much,
Mike

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

The 160FT will respond well to a APC 17X6 with a max rpm of approximately 9000 on 10% nitro. It will provide good thrust and forward speed. I use this on a Spacewalker with god results. Hope to get a DP SC some day soon.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Jaycam,

Lets see if I can explain how I did it. The mounts come with several spacers. You need to first determine what length your standoffs need to be. Mount the cowl and measure from the firewall to the cowl and add 1/8 inch. Now mount the mounting plate to the engine and measure the depth from the plate to the thrust washer. The difference between these two measurements is the length your standoffs need to be.

Now, I CA glued the spacers together to ease handling. I used 1/4 inch bolts to mount the engine and standoffs to the firewall. This required drilling out the holes in the engine mount plate to 1/4 inch. I did this because the holes in the standoffs are 1/4 inch. I wanted a tight fit with the bolts in the standoffs.

Now, I used the bolts to align the standoffs onto the mount plate and I CA glued the mounts to the plate. The engine, engine mount plate and standoffs are now one unit. Take the cowl off the fuse. Place the engine with standoffs glued to it, on the firewall, the plane must be standing on its tail ( you'll need several helping hands). Now mount the cowl back on the fuse with the engine assy. on the firewall and center the crankshaft in the hole in cowl. Once centered, carefully remove cowl without disturbing engine. Mark your holes and drill them out. I drilled the holes one at a time rechecking my alignment each time.

Regarding the wheel pant brackets, I tried JB weld and it would not hold, maybe I mixed it wrong but I was able to snap them right off. I cleaned them and used a micro torch and mechanical solder. They seem to be holding fine. I fly off a paved runway so wheel pants usually hold up as long as you keep them out of tall grass.

I hope this helps
Hill

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Thanks very much for some great info. I thought CA might come into play during mounting and many sets of hands to hold the plane upright. I'll be getting this done this weekend and post a few pics of our work.

Mike

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

H202 now you see why i want the blue one and the company that makes your motor mount has the same color to match , i guess i am going to get on the waiting list frank

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Sounds good Frank, did not know SWB made a blue mount. Should look good.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Ok, I read many post here but have not seen the one I am looking for. I am currently building this plane and the directions make reference to flaps. My plane does not have flaps. Am I going crazy?

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

The clipped wing cub does not have flaps...only the standard version has them.



Bud

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Thats what I figured but the instructions don't mention it. Very nice arf though. Looking forward to getting her in the air. I will post some pics when its done. I have had a lot of luck with Dave Patrick models so far. I have his 330L and Ultimate also. I put his 1.35 blue head ( aka moki ) in the ultimate and this is a really nice motor. :)

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

MadDog, you must have the clipped wing version that does not have flaps. The full wing version has flaps. They must be using the same assembly manual for both versions.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

OOOPPS, sorry for the duplicate reply. I didn't notice the next page in time.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Thats cool, thanks for replying so quickly.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Hi everybody. I've been watching this thread, and understand that several of you have been waiting a long time for the regular wing Super Cubs you ordered. Any recent word from Dave Patrick as to when he will be getting them back in stock?

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

In the year 2525 if man will still be alive wo o wo!!!!!!!!!

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I also wanted the full wing but settled for the clipped wing, I'm glad I did now. I bet you could find the clipped wing version if you tried.

www.espritmodels.com

Never mind they are sold out there. There was an individual trying to sell one on here earlier.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Hill,
Anymore flight reports? Did the propeller change help out any?

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I have not changed the prop yet. I'm still breaking it in. I have'nt flown much, we've had pretty bad weather on the weekends. I did lean it out some the last time and it flew better.

Are you making any progress with yours?

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Keleo exhaust failure. About the tenth flight. Kelvin has been sent this picture. I sure hope he stands good for it.

**update** I talked to Kelvin a moment ago and a new one is on the way!! Now thats how you run a business.
Thanks again Kelvin!!

;)

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Hi guys I'm new here and I tell you what this thread is making me feel a bit more excited about my new purchase of a Clipped Wing.

Here's what happened... About 3 weeks ago bought a DPM Clipped Wing Super Cub. I had heard so much about his Super Cub in magazine advertorials, I had to have one. This was a pretty big call as I live in Australia and the cost of the kit and freight added up to $1,300 AUD, which would have to be the most expensive ARTF in Australia.

Dave was out of stock for well over 6 months and I managed to find an online shop Esprit Models. who still had a few 'white' ones in stock. They were great to deal with and had it on my doorstep within 5 days. That's were the excitement ended.

The first thing I noticed was to poor attempt of covering. Edges where not even, with some overlap going from 5mm to 10mm and back on the same join. To be honest although I don't want to, I will have to recover the fuselage and one wing.

The next thing I noticed was a 5cm x 5cm dint in the wing, next to the root. At first I thought it was damaged in freight. At closer inspection, I realised the dint was from a rotten piece of balsa. The balsa was so rotten and dark, a chimp could have even noticed it in the construction stage.

I wrote an email to the shop I bought it from, there exact words were " Unfortunately this sounds like Dave Patrick modelsSome of his planes are flawless some have all kinds of issues."

As you can see I'm very disappointed. [:o] But I feel the best thing is to put it all aside and try to make the best of a bad circumstance. I will be building my Cub slowly over the next 6 months (our winter) and I'll be sharing my experiences and posting each stage.

Cheers,

James

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

One quick question:

As I've only been able to purchase a 'white' version, so someone please tell me what technique are the stripes created on the coloured models? Are they painted or are theyUltracote?

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

J-16

The stripes are ultra coat. My clipped wing had quite a few problems but I slowly worked thru them and in the end I have a plane that is very nice.

Good luck with yours and I'll be glad to answer any questions I can.

Hill

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

J-16, first of all let me tell you that I'm all jetlagged having just returned home last night from --you guessed it, Sydney. I was on a business trip and it was my second time there since 1996. Great city, great country! Well, anyway I'm sorry to hear about the problems with your DP Clipped Wing Cub. I have the full wing version and I can tell you it was flawless when I got it with the exception of a broken wing tip (very slight) that clearly happened in shipping. I called Dave and he offered to replace the wing but since it was so easy to fix I settled for a free instrument panel. I guess Dave is experiencing quality problems with his supplier in southern China, you may or may not know that he uses the same supplier as Hanger 9 models (Horizon Hobbies), and he just doesn't have any leverage or priority with those people. I spoke to him personally at the WRAM show in New York and he sounded really frustrated. Too bad because he makes a good product, but if he can't supply the demand and his quality goes south on the few models he can get to market, that's a real recipe for disaster. Well, hope you can fix it and make the best of it, it's a great flyer.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

thanks for that. I wasn't sure if I should paint the Ulracote, as I didn't think it was a good idea, but now I know I'm right. :D

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Hi,

I too had spoken to Dave and he'd express his concerns about quality and the fact he was changing his manufacturers.
I guess I was expecting a lot better and thought these type of issues would have been picked up at his end before distribution to the shops. Oh well, as I said I maybe just a one off rarity.

I also had some damage in shipping, but as I'm on the other side on the world, it was just too much hassle to have it replaced.

My background has been large scale gliders, so this will be my first giant scale plane. I just hope I haven't bitten off more than I can chew when it comes to flying it. The only other fuel plane I have at present is a 1/10 Glob motor glider, which obviously flies differently to a large scale Cub.

wish me luck.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

J-16 that really stinks. I have 4 Dave Patrick models and they are all perfect, I guess I was lucky.

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I test flew my Cub yesterday. All is great! I have a new OS 160 twin with an 18x6 prop. Plenty of power, even though its still breaking in. Flys just like a big Cub should in my opinion. I do wish it had a bit more aileron authority, but what can you do. Here are a few pics from yesterday. FYI- I still have the new in box Red Clipped wing version if anybody is interested. Thanks.

Brian

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Your machine looks great Brian. I wish I could afford a OS 160... I'm going an OS FS 120 Sps III.

I wouldn't stress about the ailerons, it seems the way it flies is far more scale.

Nice work

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

bj 80 that second pic is outstanding, the plane and the flowers, tail up nice very nice. can you wave a wand and change your clip wing to the blue one,and i will buy it, thanks[&:] frank

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I agree, I've got it as my wallpaper at work. [8D]

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

I am going down in the AM to Woodruff SC where Joe Nall is held - Dave has a note on his web site that he is attending ? Tis where I first came upon the SC- couple years ago . IF Dave is down there ?? I'll find out from him if anything new - tis 1hr 30 min drive from here in NC to this Big Event ..........tom e

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

tom e let me know if dave has any blue or yellow ones coming 911 thanks frank[&:]

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

Frank,

I'm thinking about selling mine, trying to come up with funds for a 40% extra. Let me know if you or someone is interested.

Hill