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12-02-2007 | 05:13 PM
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Hi, i've just crashed my trainer (dead stick, hit a fence)... not much of it left, my engine (os 0,65LA), 4 servos (futaba S3004) and receiver (R168DF) are ok, but the wing, stab, and firewall are complete garbage)
What will you recommend as second plane? I would prefere high wing, but tail dragger.
Thanks!
SDG666
What will you recommend as second plane? I would prefere high wing, but tail dragger.
Thanks!
SDG666
12-02-2007 | 05:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: sdg666
Hi, i've just crashed my trainer (dead stick, hit a fence)... not much of it left, my engine (os 0,65LA), 4 servos (futaba S3004) and receiver (R168DF) are ok, but the wing, stab, and firewall are complete garbage)
What will you recommend as second plane? I would prefere high wing, but tail dragger.
Thanks!
SDG666
Hi, i've just crashed my trainer (dead stick, hit a fence)... not much of it left, my engine (os 0,65LA), 4 servos (futaba S3004) and receiver (R168DF) are ok, but the wing, stab, and firewall are complete garbage)
What will you recommend as second plane? I would prefere high wing, but tail dragger.
Thanks!
SDG666
How much experience did you have with the trainer and what type of flght are you looking for. is there somthign that particularly intrest you? scale? 3d? speed?
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12-02-2007 | 06:07 PM
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How about a mid wing?
The Great Planes Easy Sport is an easy build, very durable and a great flyer. If you're not a builder, it's also available as an ARF.
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The Great Planes Easy Sport is an easy build, very durable and a great flyer. If you're not a builder, it's also available as an ARF.
DaveB
12-02-2007 | 06:11 PM
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There's not much out there in a 60 size high wing tail dragger?
You may have to take a smooth flying Hobbistar 60 high wing plane and convert it to a tail dragger?
You will need to put a doubler with corner braces in the fuselage floor right behind the bulkhead that is at the front of the wing.
Fasten an aluminum gear to this this doubler.
Add a plywood doubler to the rear with a Dubro 60 size tailwheel bracket. Make a new wire for the tail wheel that extends up the rudder hinge line and fastens into the rudder.
It'll make a great plane. that is not overly expensive.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...star&search=Go
You may have to take a smooth flying Hobbistar 60 high wing plane and convert it to a tail dragger?
You will need to put a doubler with corner braces in the fuselage floor right behind the bulkhead that is at the front of the wing.
Fasten an aluminum gear to this this doubler.
Add a plywood doubler to the rear with a Dubro 60 size tailwheel bracket. Make a new wire for the tail wheel that extends up the rudder hinge line and fastens into the rudder.
It'll make a great plane. that is not overly expensive.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...star&search=Go
12-02-2007 | 06:21 PM
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The Super Stick 60 is a cheap plane that is easy to put together.
It even has instructions for using a tail wheel and includes the parts for either gear.
I had one of these for several years. I had a Super Tiger 61, ASP 65, and Saito 91 engines on it. it flew about the same with either engine.
It was my first venture into a non trainer - tailwheel type plane. I had no trouble flying it.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN1760
It even has instructions for using a tail wheel and includes the parts for either gear.
I had one of these for several years. I had a Super Tiger 61, ASP 65, and Saito 91 engines on it. it flew about the same with either engine.
It was my first venture into a non trainer - tailwheel type plane. I had no trouble flying it.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN1760
12-02-2007 | 06:34 PM
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H9 Tango (on low rates to start with) http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4600
12-02-2007 | 06:56 PM
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H9 ultra stick? never flown it but i know some ppl love it .. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN2350
12-02-2007 | 08:14 PM
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It was my first summer in RC, i've flown for about 15 hours, but I have a lot of time with Real Flight G3.5 (using Corsair, Yak, Tribute 36...)
I love slow flight, but I wish to be able to go fast for time to time.
I hope one day to have a scal corsair, with retract and flaps (and a gaz engine, not a glow)
It was a hobbistar that I crashed, the RTF version with the 6exap.
From what I saw, the stick (super or ultra) seems to fit more my need, but I may be wrong, so aany other input will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
SDG666
I love slow flight, but I wish to be able to go fast for time to time.
I hope one day to have a scal corsair, with retract and flaps (and a gaz engine, not a glow)
It was a hobbistar that I crashed, the RTF version with the 6exap.
From what I saw, the stick (super or ultra) seems to fit more my need, but I may be wrong, so aany other input will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
SDG666
12-02-2007 | 08:19 PM
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I've seen a nitro Model (trainer, but could do the job, I think)
[link=http://www.nitroplanes.com/niarfsutr60y.html]Nitro Model Super Trainer 60 ARF[/link]
What do you think about this one?
[link=http://www.nitroplanes.com/niarfsutr60y.html]Nitro Model Super Trainer 60 ARF[/link]
What do you think about this one?
12-02-2007 | 08:37 PM
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http://www.hobby-lobby.com/srtele.htm
You could try the Telemaster. Good flying plane and resembles a Bush plane. This is a kit but they also offer it as an ARF.
You could try the Telemaster. Good flying plane and resembles a Bush plane. This is a kit but they also offer it as an ARF.
12-02-2007 | 08:50 PM
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The Hanger 9 Twist 60 is a wonderful plane at a good price.
It has a broad operation envelope and can slow fly with the best of them
It is a tail dragger and has an economical price
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4200
It has a broad operation envelope and can slow fly with the best of them
It is a tail dragger and has an economical price
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4200
12-03-2007 | 03:04 AM
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A .60-size stick/stik of some kind is the perfect airframe for what you've asked for. You can pick the brand and model, but something that comes as a tail-dragger by default would sure make things easy for you. The Hangar 9 Super Stick .60 or Ultra Stik .60 are great choices, as is the Great Planes Big Stik .60. The Model Tech Joss Stik .60 ARF is available from http://www.hobbypeople.net and would also be a nice choice.
Your .65 LA engine will fly any of these planes quite aerobatically.
Your .65 LA engine will fly any of these planes quite aerobatically.
12-03-2007 | 09:25 AM
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The Hanger 9 Twist 60 is a wonderful plane at a good price.
It has a broad operation envelope and can slow fly with the best of them
It is a tail dragger and has an economical price
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4200
The Hanger 9 Twist 60 is a wonderful plane at a good price.
It has a broad operation envelope and can slow fly with the best of them
It is a tail dragger and has an economical price
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4200
If you desided to get this plane please keep its sped under contorle.. its not suppose to be doing down lines at full power with a 12X8 prop. I ahve seen the results of this and lets jsut say the plane never pulled out
12-03-2007 | 01:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: sdg666
Hi, i've just crashed my trainer (dead stick, hit a fence)...
What will you recommend as second plane?
Hi, i've just crashed my trainer (dead stick, hit a fence)...
What will you recommend as second plane?
I'm dying to see a Hanger 9 Tango in person. It has the appearances of a good second plane on the low rates.
12-03-2007 | 02:47 PM
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I'm dying to see a Hanger 9 Tango in person. It has the appearances of a good second plane on the low rates.
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I'm dying to see a Hanger 9 Tango in person. It has the appearances of a good second plane on the low rates.
Greg, the owner, had it up the last time I was there. He was flying it 'round. Flat spins, rolls, loops, you name it, it did it. "The meerest touch on the sticks and it's flipping all over the sky." He said.
I replied. "I think you could move the sticks in a totally random fashion and it'd look cool." He just laughed and agreed.
He added about 4" to the end of each wing, he said it really improved the predictability of it. The wings normally have a flat end, he added a flat piece along the center of the wing. So the wings come to a point. (Hard to explain, I've seen this triangle tip on a lot of symmetrical wings.)
12-03-2007 | 04:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: vmsguy
A guy at my field has one. I've watched it fly.. (I think I've got video of it too.) It's a wild little bird. It's actually kind of funny looking when you watch it fly. Everybody at my field agrees: "It looks like it needs another foot of wingspan".
Greg, the owner, had it up the last time I was there. He was flying it 'round. Flat spins, rolls, loops, you name it, it did it. "The meerest touch on the sticks and it's flipping all over the sky." He said.
I replied. "I think you could move the sticks in a totally random fashion and it'd look cool." He just laughed and agreed.
He added about 4" to the end of each wing, he said it really improved the predictability of it. The wings normally have a flat end, he added a flat piece along the center of the wing. So the wings come to a point. (Hard to explain, I've seen this triangle tip on a lot of symmetrical wings.)
ORIGINAL: Charlie P.
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I'm dying to see a Hanger 9 Tango in person. It has the appearances of a good second plane on the low rates.
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I'm dying to see a Hanger 9 Tango in person. It has the appearances of a good second plane on the low rates.
Greg, the owner, had it up the last time I was there. He was flying it 'round. Flat spins, rolls, loops, you name it, it did it. "The meerest touch on the sticks and it's flipping all over the sky." He said.
I replied. "I think you could move the sticks in a totally random fashion and it'd look cool." He just laughed and agreed.
He added about 4" to the end of each wing, he said it really improved the predictability of it. The wings normally have a flat end, he added a flat piece along the center of the wing. So the wings come to a point. (Hard to explain, I've seen this triangle tip on a lot of symmetrical wings.)
I guess then I'd have to go with a .60 size Big Stik converted to a tail-dragger.
12-03-2007 | 04:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: Charlie P.
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Hmmm. Doesn't sound like a good second plane then. Which is neither good nor bad for the Tango. I had a Kangke SK-50 that could probably have been a good second plane but it landed a bit hot as I had it propped with an 11X6. With an 11X5 and a .46 to .50 engine it was a splendid flier; but it could still bite you if you weren't on top of it. His .65LA would not be suitable.
I guess then I'd have to go with a .60 size Big Stik converted to a tail-dragger.
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Hmmm. Doesn't sound like a good second plane then. Which is neither good nor bad for the Tango. I had a Kangke SK-50 that could probably have been a good second plane but it landed a bit hot as I had it propped with an 11X6. With an 11X5 and a .46 to .50 engine it was a splendid flier; but it could still bite you if you weren't on top of it. His .65LA would not be suitable.
I guess then I'd have to go with a .60 size Big Stik converted to a tail-dragger.
I don't know.. The Tango is actually Greg's son's plane. Jackson is about 9 or 10, and Greg taught him to fly on the Tango. As wild as it can be in the air. It seemed to come down to earth pretty stable. Greg must have dual rates configured in. High rates when it's flying like an epileptic swallow, and low rates when Jackson's flying it like a sleeping buzzard.
12-03-2007 | 05:34 PM
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Edit:
Since the Hangar 9 "Sticks" have been mentioned, a couple of similar planes are available from World Models:
Super Stunts 40
http://ecsvr.com/abm/shopexd.asp?id=50
Super Stunts 60
http://ecsvr.com/abm/shopexd.asp?id=51
For either one you'll need one more servo. Something like a Hitec HS311, about $9, for throttle.
And they come with trike gear.
Since the Hangar 9 "Sticks" have been mentioned, a couple of similar planes are available from World Models:
Super Stunts 40
http://ecsvr.com/abm/shopexd.asp?id=50
Super Stunts 60
http://ecsvr.com/abm/shopexd.asp?id=51
For either one you'll need one more servo. Something like a Hitec HS311, about $9, for throttle.
And they come with trike gear.
12-04-2007 | 12:53 AM
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Hard to beat the sticks. They are classics for good reason. A sweet and Low stick is simple to make from any stick kit, just turn the fuse over. You will have to shape the fuse for the wings but the incidences will not change as a stick by definition has a 0 degree motor mounting and elevator decalage. These don't chang when inverted! It is easy to do. 
this would give you something a little different and a taildragger as well because the low stick variant has to have the landing gear in front of the wing.
this would give you something a little different and a taildragger as well because the low stick variant has to have the landing gear in front of the wing.
12-04-2007 | 06:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: w8ye
The Hanger 9 Twist 60 is a wonderful plane at a good price.
It has a broad operation envelope and can slow fly with the best of them
It is a tail dragger and has an economical price
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4200
The Hanger 9 Twist 60 is a wonderful plane at a good price.
It has a broad operation envelope and can slow fly with the best of them
It is a tail dragger and has an economical price
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4200
Austin
12-04-2007 | 12:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: sdg666
Will my 65LA fit in a ultra stick 40?
If yes, is it hard to do so?
Will my 65LA fit in a ultra stick 40?
If yes, is it hard to do so?
2. Not really.
1. Since there is no cowl or cheeks in front of the firewall, almost anything will fit. The 65LA only weighs an ounce or so more than a ball bearing 46 so it should be fairly easy to get the CG right by moving the battery pack around.
2. I think the plane comes with an aluminum engine mount that is not adjustable for width. You might have to replace the mount, which will probably mean drilling holes and installing blind nuts for the new mount. This is not hard to do but it does take some time and patience. I tend to favor an adjustable mount like this one, others dislike them:
http://www3.omnimodels.com/cgi-bin/w...I=GPMG1061&P=0
