I was gifted a K&B .40 with a tongue muffler and and I think I have another in the Big Box O Mufflers but I've never actually messed with one. Can you guys school me on what's up with them?

Mgmostic kamay Tx. I am up north in Granbury Texas. Me and four others fly The circle. Toung mufflers. Your running a K@B 40! Never used those engines. But my fleet uses Toung Mufflers. Mostly all Fox Stunt 35s. Personally I like them. I order mine thru Stan in Georgia. He will custom them to your spect. The noise level not much difference compaired to a long muffler. Possibly a little louder on all my Fox fleet. My motors are 50s and 70s versions. Never designed for a muffler. I also have Red Head McCoys but they are stored, just my preference to Fox. I think the best feature is no back pressure. So the Fox runs as designed 4 2 4 break. I use classic fuel tanks that don't need muffler pressure outlet to deliver fuel. But I've herd just install a fitting on the Toung muffler and your going to get good fuel pressure. AJ just to add. Look on stunt hanger. And RC there are several posts on Toung Mufflers. Most say its a real weight saver. But most say the noise level is about the same. To include the now issue on Mufflers are required at most flying Fields. That's another reason I installed the Toung muffler. And some say they offer lots of back pressure. I don't agree with that statement. Just because I get a good 4 2 4 break if I set it up right.thru the venturi and needle valve. Most of my Fox Needle valves are the flat needle.AJ

I fly with the Wichita Falls club. I've been to the WAMS swap meet a few times. I started attending when it was at Weatherford but the drive to the new location isn't that much further. I would describe myself as dabbling in control line. We have one other fellow in our group who was an active control line flier. He gifted me some of his engines and a couple of planes when he started getting vertigo (old age sucks sometimes). Since then I have become a magnet for old control line planes with stuck engines. I was just given most of a Goldberg Shoestring with an early O.S. .35. !'ve also been accruing a collection of 1/2a engines through the same process. Once you ever have more than one you become the guy who does that thing. But back to tongue mufflers, It sounds like it is mostly about being smaller and lighter than stock or in some cases adding a muffler where there wasn't one before.

Ya WAMS is in Granbury now. Lost their facility In Weatherford. I think the yearly swap meet is at the Middle School buy the YMCA in Granbury. The site they have is a dump site that belongs to a housing invester out of Houstan. I am a member but I don't attend. Did for a while just don't care for there attitude made some deal with the Granbury City Council. I got out of RC and now fly U Control. Really enjoy it. And the build. I guess back to my roots. I was in the circle at the middle school. And was told to go fly at the RC field. I really think the pres of the club complained about what I was doing. And not in sink with the New Club charter. He claims the club has a circle. Hand launch only it's a joke. To fly U Control you need nice cut grass and smooth surface. They have a car track and the fourty acres is a joke. Placed the UC in the corner. Against trees. So I now fly in my back yard only with a South windAJ.

We still have a concrete circle at the field in town. We are in one of the city parks. When the Jaycees ( the original owners of the park ) turned the land over to the city there was a provision that there would always be a flying field. So we lucked out. Club politics can be a pain. For 20 years I lived 40 miles down the road and so wasn't an active member. My understanding is that there were people in the club that pretty much ran off anyone who didn't think like them but they aged out and the current bunch are pretty open to flying whatever you like. That said I am probably the only person to use the circle in the last decade. It gets used fairly often for model rockets. I live out in the country. I can and have flown from from my front yard but trees, outbuilding and powerlines pretty much keep me on 50ft or less lines.

Ya Matt that comment has really not gone at WAMS, the guys that run it, feel the same way you described, several joined at first including me. I helped at all there field day, cutting and trimming grass. Even helped making the car track. Which went thru portion of the UControl circle. And the RC ignored the Circle and flew over and around the circle. Not a good environment. Lots of Quad copters. Young kids, even the older guys are not respective of general rules. And offer the facility to other RC clubs. Mostly on weekends. Several have quit and went back to Thunderbird field. It’s in a state Park have to pay to enter unless your a AMA member I am Life AMA and CAF, SAM and L-19 life. trust and FAA registered. Not required for the Circle, but I have it. Hood County came buy resident complained. My Neighbor, I flew and was putting up my stuff. Had all requirements he asked for. Turned out he was a member with his son at WAMS! Even he had an attitude about the Circle. But could not do a thing. On my Properity own to the center of the runway. Only fly in south wind. Got to be careful. And watch for Aircraft. Usually fly after the sun sets.AJ

The quad copter fad has pretty much settled down around here. The people that do still fly them are also airplane guys. We do alright staying out of each others way and a couple of guys are good enough to fly formation with the airplanes. It is a shrinking world though. We occasionally get full scale traffic coming in over the city at at altitudes that the FAA wouldn't be happy with and we get a couple of powered parachutes that take off from the baseball field next door. Out in the country the biggest issue is pipeline spotters flying around at 100 feet.
On a happy note I'm probably going to fire up the K&B with the tongue muffler. The engine had been sitting for a long time and I thought it might need a full teardown but as soon as I warmed the case up a bit it flipped right over. Smooth bearings and excellent compression.

Ya I haven’t been to that field in two years so I don’t know about the quad scene. Ya I always use a heat gun especially in the winter to warm my Fox troop. And use just a few drops of lighter fluid in the Venturi. Usually starts right up. I flew the pipe line in Ardmore back in the seventys. We have got a few of the para gliders on our Airport. I have four Toung mufflers. All different hole exits top,bottom, and end holes depending where my needle valve screw is located on the plane. They get pretty dirty with burned on caster oil. I’ve cleaned them in my sonic cleaner 180 degree distilled water and 88 degreaser. Usually takes three thirty minute cycles. They look like new. Finally found a place to get seals for my Fox engines. If your after parts for your KandB Mecoa in California can fix you up. AJ

I've actually flown at Ardmore ( I presume you mean Ardmore, Ok). There is a nice little field there in Lake Murray State Park. I've done a little with business with Mecoa and have been happy with them.

Ya Matt I lived in Ardmore for 16;years worked at the Municipal Air port in Gene Autry, graduated college in Durant. Did most of my U Control Flying at Gene Autry had a circle off a run pad by the river on the east side of the airport. I did some RC work at the Lake Murray facility. It was nice, still have a few friends their but several have died off over the yearsAJ.