Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
04-28-2007 | 06:33 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
Mrsamm,
I've used eboyztoyz before, and like Wnuk, no problems.. BPHobbies is good too. I use Hobby Zone sometimes, when everyone else is out of stock, and I need a part quickly. Hobby Zone is standard prices, so you pay a couple bucks more for an average size order, however, they almost always have everything in stock.
Hmmm, you're like me, I get a ton of e-mails and inbox messages everyday...
Dave / Choppersrule
I've used eboyztoyz before, and like Wnuk, no problems.. BPHobbies is good too. I use Hobby Zone sometimes, when everyone else is out of stock, and I need a part quickly. Hobby Zone is standard prices, so you pay a couple bucks more for an average size order, however, they almost always have everything in stock.
Hmmm, you're like me, I get a ton of e-mails and inbox messages everyday...
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04-28-2007 | 06:46 PM
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Mrsamm,
I've used eboyztoyz before, and like Wnuk, no problems.. BPHobbies is good too. I use Hobby Zone sometimes, when everyone else is out of stock.. Hobby Zone is standard prices, so you pay a couple bucks more for an average size order, however, they almost always have everything in stock.
Hmmm, you're like me, I get a ton of e-mails and inbox messages everyday...
Dave / Choppersrule
Mrsamm,
I've used eboyztoyz before, and like Wnuk, no problems.. BPHobbies is good too. I use Hobby Zone sometimes, when everyone else is out of stock.. Hobby Zone is standard prices, so you pay a couple bucks more for an average size order, however, they almost always have everything in stock.
Hmmm, you're like me, I get a ton of e-mails and inbox messages everyday...
Dave / Choppersrule
lol, now you're pickin on me =) mrasmm instead of mrsamm =P I did it to you first, so I guess we're even [8D]
Anyways it's good to hear that both of you had good luck with them. I also put in an order with them because of the great find on the DD setup for $14 bucks, and I needed a few other parts that they had at really good prices, so I figured why not?
I was really impressed with my order, because I ordered thursday and got it today. The only prob was I ordered a stainless feathering shaft, and I got one that is black. Is there any way the stainless could be black? Or did they send me the wrong one?
04-28-2007 | 06:52 PM
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OK Just finished some upgrades DD from Boztoyz. Fast ship great price. 18.15 to my door 3 days
Fits great moved that battery far forward. Sounds like it will do the job
Heli Direct great prices fast ships 3 days to the door.
1- Sonix Power 1200mAh 3S 15C 11.1V Lithium Battery - Blade CP/CP2 $19.99- Nice battery
1- Main Gear w/Auto-rotation Hub and Main Shaft - Blade CP/CPP $21.99-- Sounds awesome
1 x Super Durable Yellow Flat-Bottom PLASTIC-BLADES - Blade CP/3DNR $14.99- Why not always need some spares
1 x Micro Helis Deluxe Main Blade Holder - Blade CP/CP2 $3.99- Didn't have one
1 x Micro Helicopter Pitch Gauge $8.80- everyone needs at least 2 right?
This is starting to ad up. Think I need a gyro and suggestions?
Spun it up and hoping to get it flying in the AM. Thanks to all you guys I was running out of things to spend money on.
Mike
Fits great moved that battery far forward. Sounds like it will do the job
Heli Direct great prices fast ships 3 days to the door.
1- Sonix Power 1200mAh 3S 15C 11.1V Lithium Battery - Blade CP/CP2 $19.99- Nice battery
1- Main Gear w/Auto-rotation Hub and Main Shaft - Blade CP/CPP $21.99-- Sounds awesome
1 x Super Durable Yellow Flat-Bottom PLASTIC-BLADES - Blade CP/3DNR $14.99- Why not always need some spares
1 x Micro Helis Deluxe Main Blade Holder - Blade CP/CP2 $3.99- Didn't have one
1 x Micro Helicopter Pitch Gauge $8.80- everyone needs at least 2 right?
This is starting to ad up. Think I need a gyro and suggestions?
Spun it up and hoping to get it flying in the AM. Thanks to all you guys I was running out of things to spend money on.
Mike
04-28-2007 | 07:16 PM
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CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
04-28-2007 | 07:38 PM
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Wnuk,
I had the exact same thing happen to me with the exact same damage
only it was not the proportional, I had the wires soldered backwards. All I had to do was turn the rotor plug in the 3in1 upside down and it worked fine.
I had the exact same thing happen to me with the exact same damage
only it was not the proportional, I had the wires soldered backwards. All I had to do was turn the rotor plug in the 3in1 upside down and it worked fine.
ORIGINAL: Wnuk
CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
04-28-2007 | 08:05 PM
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Thank you Test Monkey...I'll be careful.[:@]
ORIGINAL: Wnuk
CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
04-28-2007 | 08:10 PM
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Turned down he gain and started from scratch when I competed the swap. I really like the positive feel of the tail rotor. Like everything else in life another learning curve. Thanks for the heads up.
04-28-2007 | 08:42 PM
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I am so waiting till my stock tail burns out, I don't need to have an explosion just yet. I bet that made some awesome noise Wnuk. The bananas are being shipped as we speak.
Cpt Randy, you too huh? Just how much more power do you guys guess that GWS tail has? Sounds like modifying the stock tail mount may be the answer for this mod. I will have to look at it closer and decide!
Just looked at the tail mount and choppersrule is right, too flimsy to be of much use. If one reverses the wires and uses the stock modified mount, ya should get anticlockwise rotation....right? Putting the prop on the same side as the stock prop is........
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Cpt Randy, you too huh? Just how much more power do you guys guess that GWS tail has? Sounds like modifying the stock tail mount may be the answer for this mod. I will have to look at it closer and decide!
Just looked at the tail mount and choppersrule is right, too flimsy to be of much use. If one reverses the wires and uses the stock modified mount, ya should get anticlockwise rotation....right? Putting the prop on the same side as the stock prop is........
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04-28-2007 | 08:50 PM
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Randy, I'm sure I had the wires going to the proper positive and negative terminals on the motor. I guess I should ask which way should the tail rotor blades spin with the GWS motor. Clockwise or Counterclockwise?
If my experience is anything to go by, these GWS motors will be awesome. It will take some work to get them going just right. I think when I get my new tail rotor, I am going to stick with the stock motor mount, just widen it to accept the GWS Motor.
If my experience is anything to go by, these GWS motors will be awesome. It will take some work to get them going just right. I think when I get my new tail rotor, I am going to stick with the stock motor mount, just widen it to accept the GWS Motor.
04-28-2007 | 09:07 PM
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OK, now I can't remember for sure but I think my tail rotor was spinning clockwise when I completed the install. That would make sense if the heli spun counterclockwise.
04-28-2007 | 09:26 PM
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Wnuk...you're scaring me!!!
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OK, now I can't remember for sure but I think my tail rotor was spinning clockwise when I completed the install. That would make sense if the heli spun counterclockwise.
OK, now I can't remember for sure but I think my tail rotor was spinning clockwise when I completed the install. That would make sense if the heli spun counterclockwise.
04-28-2007 | 09:33 PM
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Facing the right side of the heli looking at the retainer that holds the tail rotor...the rotor as stock rotates anti-clockwise....pushes air in your face. So tail in, the stock tail rotor forces air to the right...pushing LEFT. No matter which way you mount...the tail rotor has to push the tail to the left when more thrust is applied to the tail rotor.
04-28-2007 | 09:34 PM
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Have I had too many beers tonite or am I thinking wrong? 
Remember, the GWS rotor faces the left side of the heli when looking at it from the tail.
Remember, the GWS rotor faces the left side of the heli when looking at it from the tail.
04-28-2007 | 09:41 PM
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Wnuk,
Ouch!!!, man that's some bad luck.. My venture today installing the DD drive, was very good no problems. I've done modifications so many times, it becomes second nature to start with the basics... After DD mod was completed and a visual check, everything was okay.
I Powered everything up, set her on the floor and went through the proportional setup proceedures... Spooled up, saw which way it's going and make necessay adjustments to the proportional... Took 3 minutes or so.. fine tuning...
First flight was great,, soooo, much better than the standard Blade tail system. The weird thing is that the sound of the DD tail motor is so much different, that you think something is wrong. And it's not, just something to get use to..
Here's some pictures of the rebuild with the DD mod. Not very good pics, must have been the camera(sure)!
With my "Double Modification", as posted earlier, I used the cut off version of the tail skids, pictures will show that.. Also, I made the added tail skid about 1/4 inch longer than the DD fin.. That way, in a hurried landing, it hits the modified skid and not the DD fin.
Any questions on this, just post 'em, glad to help ya out,
Dave / Choppersrule
Ouch!!!, man that's some bad luck.. My venture today installing the DD drive, was very good no problems. I've done modifications so many times, it becomes second nature to start with the basics... After DD mod was completed and a visual check, everything was okay.
I Powered everything up, set her on the floor and went through the proportional setup proceedures... Spooled up, saw which way it's going and make necessay adjustments to the proportional... Took 3 minutes or so.. fine tuning...
First flight was great,, soooo, much better than the standard Blade tail system. The weird thing is that the sound of the DD tail motor is so much different, that you think something is wrong. And it's not, just something to get use to..
Here's some pictures of the rebuild with the DD mod. Not very good pics, must have been the camera(sure)!
With my "Double Modification", as posted earlier, I used the cut off version of the tail skids, pictures will show that.. Also, I made the added tail skid about 1/4 inch longer than the DD fin.. That way, in a hurried landing, it hits the modified skid and not the DD fin.
Any questions on this, just post 'em, glad to help ya out,
Dave / Choppersrule
ORIGINAL: Wnuk
CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
CAUTION!!!!!
This GWS tail mod is trickier then it may appear. First some stats. Stock tail assemblt is 17g. GWS Tail assembly is 24g. That's why she don't balance. So I cut my boom so I had exactly 10.5 inches from the rear of the frame to the end of the boom. I mock all the GWS stuff on, moved battery tray fully forward and with canopy on I am at a perfect CG. Ok, all looks good. Solder the wires, glue the tail motor mount, spooll it up on the bench. All looks good. Things went down hill from here.
I set it down on my smooth concrete floor and slowly began to spool it up. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail WHIPS around counterclockwise and plastic pieces fly off. Spool it back down and assess the damage. What I believe happened was the proportional and gain were up too high for the torque of this motor. Mind you I had both mine set at about mid way on the pots. When the tail whipped around, the verticle fin bent and kicked it into the prop. This caused the tips of the prop to brake off, see attached pics. No problem I said, remember those extra motor mount and prop I ordered? I can use these I think, and start with the gain and proportional turned way down. Well, I'll be darned, they sent me the WRONG spare prop. The spare is too large! Good thing I kept the stock tail assembly in tact. I have a spare boom and will install everything back to original until I get another prop.
Lessons to be learned: Start with your gain and proportional WAY DOWN when spooling up for the first time, the new tail motor has TONS of torque! The stock verticle fin is WAY too Flimsly. I think Choppers has a good idea with cutting and reusing the stock tail fin. It is much stronger then the GWS one.
Oh well; Enjoy the pics, have a laugh like I did, and then proceed with your tail mod with my experience fresh in your mind.
Arrow buddy, where are those bananas? I could use them about now!
04-28-2007 | 09:42 PM
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Yes it makes perfect sense to me. That's why I' saying if my rotor was rotating clockwise, it would push the tail to the right, no?
Wait, let me get another beer and think about some more.[8D]
Wait, let me get another beer and think about some more.[8D]
04-28-2007 | 09:46 PM
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Looks great, Choppers! I think you got the right idea with keeping that portion of the stock tail support.
Tell me though, which way does your tail rotor spin, CW or CCW? That maybe where I went wrong.
Tell me though, which way does your tail rotor spin, CW or CCW? That maybe where I went wrong.
04-28-2007 | 09:49 PM
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Yeah...grab me one too and maybe I'll be less confused and I haven't even started the convert yet...whew[X(].
ORIGINAL: Wnuk
Yes it makes perfect sense to me. That's why I' saying if my rotor was rotating clockwise, it would push the tail to the right, no?
Wait, let me get another beer and think about some more.[8D]
Yes it makes perfect sense to me. That's why I' saying if my rotor was rotating clockwise, it would push the tail to the right, no?
Wait, let me get another beer and think about some more.[8D]
04-28-2007 | 09:58 PM
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Captain Randy,
Just a really sweet looking machine you have. I know it takes time to get it looking that good, Great Job.
Thanks for the link on the DD set-up from Runryder(Spelling?), pictures are awesome.
There's only one thing that concerns me in his build (Step #5), and I see you have done it also... The yellow sticky tape, not sure of the composite, that is attached to the lower section of the tail fin.... Bottom line, IMHO, it's blocking air flow... Hmmmmm
Great Pictures, Good looking heli you have there,
Dave / Choppersrule
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Just a really sweet looking machine you have. I know it takes time to get it looking that good, Great Job.
Thanks for the link on the DD set-up from Runryder(Spelling?), pictures are awesome.
There's only one thing that concerns me in his build (Step #5), and I see you have done it also... The yellow sticky tape, not sure of the composite, that is attached to the lower section of the tail fin.... Bottom line, IMHO, it's blocking air flow... Hmmmmm
Great Pictures, Good looking heli you have there,
Dave / Choppersrule
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ORIGINAL: Captain Randy
If she thinks my tractor's sexy wait till she sees my Blade.
If she thinks my tractor's sexy wait till she sees my Blade.
04-28-2007 | 10:14 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
Wnuk,
BEER you say,, Not a bad idea at all..
With the stock blade tail system, viewing from the left side of the heli, the rotor turns clockwise, and the air flow from the tail prop, moves from left side to right side of the heli. Double verify that with the DD setup. Prop direction may be opposite. just make sure of air flow direction. Check out this link: Good pictures and very detailed..
Link: http://www.bladecprepair.com/man_tr_dd_conversion.html
Dave / Choppersrule
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BEER you say,, Not a bad idea at all..
With the stock blade tail system, viewing from the left side of the heli, the rotor turns clockwise, and the air flow from the tail prop, moves from left side to right side of the heli. Double verify that with the DD setup. Prop direction may be opposite. just make sure of air flow direction. Check out this link: Good pictures and very detailed..
Link: http://www.bladecprepair.com/man_tr_dd_conversion.html
Dave / Choppersrule
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ORIGINAL: Wnuk
Yes it makes perfect sense to me. That's why I' saying if my rotor was rotating clockwise, it would push the tail to the right, no?
Wait, let me get another beer and think about some more.[8D]
Yes it makes perfect sense to me. That's why I' saying if my rotor was rotating clockwise, it would push the tail to the right, no?
Wait, let me get another beer and think about some more.[8D]
04-28-2007 | 10:24 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
I really don't think mine would look very good painted up as a Ford 861 redbelly...but I could be wrong. I'd have to locate SMALL Ford Decales though (LOL). Darnnit...I gotta hook up the finish mower and tame this field I call a yard. Rain has been driving grass growth pretty hard.
ORIGINAL: Captain Randy
If she thinks my tractor's sexy wait till she sees my Blade.
If she thinks my tractor's sexy wait till she sees my Blade.
04-28-2007 | 10:34 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
ORIGINAL: crashcrash
Facing the right side of the heli looking at the retainer that holds the tail rotor...the rotor as stock rotates anti-clockwise....pushes air in your face. So tail in, the stock tail rotor forces air to the right...pushing LEFT. No matter which way you mount...the tail rotor has to push the tail to the left when more thrust is applied to the tail rotor.
Facing the right side of the heli looking at the retainer that holds the tail rotor...the rotor as stock rotates anti-clockwise....pushes air in your face. So tail in, the stock tail rotor forces air to the right...pushing LEFT. No matter which way you mount...the tail rotor has to push the tail to the left when more thrust is applied to the tail rotor.
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
04-28-2007 | 10:42 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
On MOST propellers, the size is stamped onto the side that is visable to you ie...10-6, 8-4, whatever. That number should be on the visable side but logic don't always apply especially with these "weed whackers".
ORIGINAL: mrasmm
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
ORIGINAL: crashcrash
Facing the right side of the heli looking at the retainer that holds the tail rotor...the rotor as stock rotates anti-clockwise....pushes air in your face. So tail in, the stock tail rotor forces air to the right...pushing LEFT. No matter which way you mount...the tail rotor has to push the tail to the left when more thrust is applied to the tail rotor.
Facing the right side of the heli looking at the retainer that holds the tail rotor...the rotor as stock rotates anti-clockwise....pushes air in your face. So tail in, the stock tail rotor forces air to the right...pushing LEFT. No matter which way you mount...the tail rotor has to push the tail to the left when more thrust is applied to the tail rotor.
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
04-28-2007 | 11:55 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
I just realized how rude that musta sounded =P I didn't mean it rude at all, I just ment that I couldn't have said it any better =)
thanks for the good info on the props... it's been so long since I've done much with them that I forgot all about text being on the side with the leading edge =)
thanks for the good info on the props... it's been so long since I've done much with them that I forgot all about text being on the side with the leading edge =)
ORIGINAL: crashcrash
On MOST propellers, the size is stamped onto the side that is visable to you ie...10-6, 8-4, whatever. That number should be on the visable side but logic don't always apply especially with these "weed whackers".
On MOST propellers, the size is stamped onto the side that is visable to you ie...10-6, 8-4, whatever. That number should be on the visable side but logic don't always apply especially with these "weed whackers".
ORIGINAL: mrasmm
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
04-29-2007 | 12:16 AM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
No offense taken at all...not rude at all. Got something to say...it's OK...say it. A lot of people on this thread think out loud...it's cool!
ORIGINAL: mrasmm
I just realized how rude that musta sounded =P I didn't mean it rude at all, I just ment that I couldn't have said it any better =)
thanks for the good info on the props... it's been so long since I've done much with them that I forgot all about text being on the side with the leading edge =)
I just realized how rude that musta sounded =P I didn't mean it rude at all, I just ment that I couldn't have said it any better =)
thanks for the good info on the props... it's been so long since I've done much with them that I forgot all about text being on the side with the leading edge =)
ORIGINAL: crashcrash
On MOST propellers, the size is stamped onto the side that is visable to you ie...10-6, 8-4, whatever. That number should be on the visable side but logic don't always apply especially with these "weed whackers".
On MOST propellers, the size is stamped onto the side that is visable to you ie...10-6, 8-4, whatever. That number should be on the visable side but logic don't always apply especially with these "weed whackers".
ORIGINAL: mrasmm
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth =)
One other thing is that if you make it so it is spinning so the bottom of the tail rotor comes at you from behind the heli, you can get a roll over situation and bury your heli =( Make sure that the top side comes at you, and the bottom side of the rotor goes away from you. That will make the rotor forces cancel out and get you away from that rollover condition =)
Also with these DD blades there is a leading edge and a trailing edge, and it's good to get those right, even though they do not have to be in order to fly. Maybe someone else can post pics before I get to it, but if not I'll post some pics soon =)
