I called the guy at flyrcrivesud.com and asked him if his blade grips would work on the stock E-flite aluminum heads. He told me that they would. But the only way to get just the grips is to order them from his Ebay page. No big deal, I found his Ebay page won the auction, plus 3 others (battery holder, and 2 sets of replacement blades). They finally showed up today, so I broke my Blade down and started to install the new parts (along with new SE180 motors). Only to find out that the blade grips will not fit with the E-flite lower aluminum head. So I called him back and he told me I would have to replace my aluminum lower head with his plastic one.

Its not a big deal. But, it just pisses me off when someone deliberately miss leads you to just make a sell. I guess I will be selling/giving these away and going with a set of Microheli offset style metal grips.

Unless anyone knows of a work around for this? The problem is that the ball link on the blade grip is about 2x as large as the E-flite one, so you have to use a different link down to the swash plate.

I know you're going to hate to hear this, but you could have ordered the entire folding blade conversion from my shop (helitek-rc.com) for $4 less than you paid for his AND we include a free set of hardened blades with our kit instead of the cheap ebay blades he includes with his.

The work around to your problem is to replace the top part of your swashplate with the top part of an Esky swashplate, then use the Esky links from an Esky lower rotor head.

Unfortunately in order to do that you'll wind up paying for a swashplate and lower rotor hub, which will probably run your $12. The lower hub has nothing to do with the size of the swashplate balls or the size of the balls on the blade grips. If you did get his lower rotor hub, he'd then probably try and sell you his links, which is what you'd actually need to fix the issue using his parts.

Thanks for the tips. I think I may just end up ordering set of the offset micoheli grips. Unless there is anouther light weight option out there. I only paid $15 for the grips from his eBay page.

Do your blades come in black too? White clashes with the look I'm going for.

Unfortunately we don't currently carry black blades. We haven't found a set yet that performs as well as the white ones that we currently carry.

we do not offer lamav4 parts with plastic busing and eflite upper swasplate to try to do some fitting like other do

we manufacture real upgrade
the lower rotor head we have redesign, ( new plastic ) it is crash resistant and very low weight
this part solve that issue

primary function of our company

more flight time and crash resistant parts as best as possible

beauty is not our priority

aluminum parts have to much issue for this micro heli,
it is not a t-rex or a blade 400 that you can add weight like you want

p.s. stiff blade when you do quick movement make the heli crash so other parts will break you may not break the blade but something else will
you need a little of flex in them

we are on the now on the 8 generation of our racing blades

www.flyrcrivesud.com

I am not bad mouthing your products or anything. I knew the reason why they are the way they are. I was just upset with the fact that I called you and asked if your blade grips would work with the E-flite aluminum heads. You told me that they would, but I would have to win your auction on ebay to get just the blade grips.

I have had the E-flite lower aluminum head for some time now, and do not wish to get rid of it. I have had zero problems with it on and would like to keep it since I have already spent the money. The main reason I contacted you was I wanted the lightest blade grips to go with my current setup.

Do you make a link that will work with your grips and the stock style lower hub?

hi
note that blade grip kit are offer only on ebay

the grip kit are very good and even better on the Exxtreme core

for us as designer the lower head in alu is not a real upgrade as it add weight on the heli for nothing
we have over 7000 clients and it is very rare that
a returning clients will buy again the lower rotor head, THE RAISON: our design do not break

what is included in our kit is the best there is for this size of heli
LOW WEIGHT = MORE FLIGHT TIME
http://www.flyrcrivesud.com/forumspartssupport.html

note that the eXxtreme core work also with a upper alu head see pic on this link
http://www.flyrcrivesud.com/1blueextremecore.jpg

FOR THE GRIP KIT THAT WE MANUFACTURE

WE HAVE FOUD THAT THERE IS MANY PEOPLES THAT TRY TO COPY US, WITH SOME PARTS FROM LAMA V4 AND ETC...
BUT IT IS STILL NOT THE REAL THING

AS FOR NOW WE HAVE DECIDE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ISSUE LEGALY AND ALSO BY RETAIL PRICE

THE GRIP KIT WITH THE 8TH GENERATION OF OUR RACING BLADES IS NOW OFFER AT $16.95

BELIVE IT, AND IT IS OFFER ONLY ON EBAY

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=300295970090

BLADE GRIP KIT REGULAR $28.95 NOW OFFER AT $16.95

OUR REAL FEEDBACK

http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI...:feedback:2:ca

http://www.flyrcrivesud.com/didyouknow.html

INVENTORY IN STOCK OVER 3500 BLADE GRIP KIT TO BE SOLD AT $16.95
BLADES ARE INCLUDED

THE KIT WORK ON BLADE CX - CX2 - CX3
DIRECT FIT, NO MOD NEED TO BE DONE

Our kit fits directly on a CX2 also. No modifications need to be done.

How exactly are you claiming that your blade grips are more durable than Esky parts? Have you done some test to prove this? I've been flying the same set of blade grips on my Lama for a year now without replacement. I fly only outside and have crashed them at least/over 50 times in high wind. I'll be more than happy to take a polygraph to attest to that fact if you're willing to pay the bill for it.

As far as threatening legal action over a forum, I'm sorry, but that's a bit ridiculous. You know in fact, it's not a bit ridiculous, it's ludicrous.

Tony Skinner
Helitek-RC

Edit: While you take the next 30 minutes to an hour to respond, here's some light reading for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

Question for ya here. Last post :


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_67...511807#8511807

here your answer: HarleyDave

bladecx2.com and 32 other domaine was stolen from us last year
by horizon hobby

note:
the EXxtreme Core has been updated 3 time in the past year
we alway try to make it better

test test re-test invest in mold see what peoples said then improve the products
now it is the best as possible last update ( january 14 - 2009 )

www.flyrcrivesud.com

hard blade vs racing blades
good and bad

HARD BLADE
the good:
give lift, more durable but break at the joint where the grip attach

the bad :
twice the weight, if you are a little aggresive they will not flex to absorb the mouvement stress and can cause the heli to continue in the direction of your last input and the result will be a crash,
other parts of the heli will break ( canopy, chassis etc...)
also due of the extra weight of the hard blade, motors build AMP and this = to heat = to friction = to less flight time = gear that break more often etc...


RACING BLADE
the good:
low weight add agility and this help if you know you going to the wall, and you try to go in the other direction ( flex to absorb the mouvement stress )
they add more flight time due of the low weight and less AMP on the motors

the bad :
will break more then hard blade, but less then stock blade incase of a hard crash

grip kit
almost all user agree that aluminum grip add to much weight
and the heli become unstable and also has less lift
note:
couple of gram on this heli make a big different

blade grip kit
you may want to look on ebay for low cost
write blade cx or SL52

READ
recent comment from a client
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servl...&v=-huXgJycxpM

subjet blade cx3
you need parts SL64 and SL72
BOTH ARE NEEDED FOR THE CX3 HELI
to fix the problem with the STOCK - CX3 landing skid and battery holder, that break for nothing

......

So if so many guys are commenting on how good your stuff is, why did you disable the comment section then ? How many of the bad comments did you erase that were there before ? And at the end of the video I'll assure you there's no way your CX2 recovered in that wind as you flew a quick forward flight session going with the wind. There is not a CX2 on the planet, let alone the universe that could do that simply because of its weight and size. If it did, you would have showed a bit more instead of a suicide run that ended in disaster. That's misleading right there, and so I would have to then wonder what else is being mislead here ? Just some questions that go through a lot of our minds. I've read some nasty stuff about your operation and it makes me very skeptical.

Dave

Oh, looking forward to a new video.

The "hard blade" you are comparing to your blades are Xtreme brand blades, which are heavier as described and MIGHT break at the root where they go in the blade grip (after 25 or so hard crashes on the same blades), but what about other brands of blades like Airy Hardens, Durablades, etc THAT AREN'T heavier than your blades and DON'T break at the root?

I'm all for you trying to sell an "improved" product, but comparing your product to one single set of blades from a single manufacturer and making it out to be better than everything else out there is misleading. In fact you can pick up an entire set of light weight blades of comparable strength off of Deal Extreme for less than $3 shipped internationally.

If I fly a set of those blades and crash they will not break. The most damage that my chopper will receive is to replace my inner shaft gear that costs $2.99. On the other hand if flying a set of your "racing blades" and they break, I'm out the cost of at least 1 set of blades at $3.99 a set BEFORE shipping and that's only if one set is damaged. I can pick up the inner shaft gear at my LHS for $2.99 + tax.

From your previous posts it's obvious you like to bulldog people into editing their posts when they have an issue with your products. A suggestion would be to offer an good product, at a reasonable price, and good customer service, rather than try and use pseudo science, limited comparisons, censored youtube comments, and threatening your own customers who aren't satisfied with your products to try and keep your "image" untainted. You can take it or leave it, but it's good advice.

We have 2 negative feedbacks on ebay from 1 customer. That customer later edited his negative comments to say that he had received his package the next day and it was the fault of his local postal service. We never bothered sending him a request to remove the negative feedback. Why? Because you can't please everyone. We'd rather people read through the comments to find the negative and realize we weren't at fault, than have it show that we did something to convince him to remove it.

Tony Skinner
Helitek-RC

as for our feeback
read this
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...me=STRK:ME:UFS

Positive Feedback (last 12 months): 99.6% and this is on ebay only ( of 1627 )

as for the comment on youtube we close them as the video is so popular we get spam on it

our video show extreme flight speed
this video was done to show that you can flight outside with our upgrade
it is not recomanded that you flight in such wind condition

comment from clients
http://www.flyrcrivesud.com/didyouknow.html

Update on all the drama:


Boy what a can of worms this started. My original intent of this thread was to state that the flyrcrivesud.com blade grips would not fit on a stock style lower head. I simply stated what happen to me while dealing with them. I contacted them before I ordered with what I was wanting to do, they advised me, I did as they suggested, things did not work like they had said. He, Sonat, later said that they offer a solution to my problem. I needed to buy the part kit that they also sell. After I inquired about the cost of that and shipping, I was then told that it would not help me after all. Durning this whole time I am receiving emails and PMs from them telling me to delete/change my thread here about them. Apparently by me telling my side of the story, the truth, I am killing their business. I have never once said that the products that they sell are bad in any way. I was impressed in the research that I did and that is why I contacted them first. I am upset in the customer service of the company.

I was later offered an refund on the blade grips that I ordered. I have not taken them up on the refund option. I do not see how it can benefit me now. I will still be out money and time. The cost of the grips, plus shipping, and the added cost of the return shipping to Canada.


I do want to send a thanks out to barak1001. The guys at Helitek-RC have gone out of their way to get me back in the air. In my eyes that is the way a business should run.

I am open to discuss this issue more, but I really do not see the need. If you want to keep your lower E-flite hub (aluminum or stock) you CAN NOT use the flyrcrivesud.com grips.

FIRST OF ALL
WE HELP ALL OUR CLIENTS

PARTS ARE DESIGN TO BE LOW WEIGHT AND CRASH RESISTANT ( THE LOWER ROTOR HEAD DO NOT BREAK )

IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH UPGRADE THAT ADD WEIGHT IT IS YOUR BUSINESS
WE DO NOT WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS GOAL
UPGRADE THAT ACTUALY ARE NOT

ALL OUR LINE OF PRODUCTS ARE LOW WEIGHT AND MORE CRASH RESISTANT

NO ONE OUT HERE LOOK LIKE THEY CARE ABOUT THIS
HELLO THIS IS NOT A BLADE CP BUT A MICRO HELI

WEIGHT DOES AFFECT THIS HELI

SO GO BUY ALUMINUM PARTS AND LIVE HAPPY

AS FOR COMPETITON
STOP MAKING FAKE USER OR ELSE AND TRY TO LOWER OTHER COMPANY DOWN
P.S. STOP COPY OTHERS PRODUCT AS WELL

AND FOR THOSE THAT SELL VORTEX AND LAMA V4 CRAP, QUALITY IS NOT THE SAME AS OUR UPGRADE
FLYBAR ,MOTOR, GRIP,GEAR , ETC...

YOU NEED ANY SUPPORT WE HELP USE OUR EMAIL: [email protected]
REAL FEEDBACK from ebay
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...me=STRK:ME:UFS
Positive Feedback (last 12 months): 99.6%

TESTIMONIALS:
http://www.flyrcrivesud.com/didyouknow.html

DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT

Thanks.... I've been flying my CX2 for over a year and a half with all the CNC and love it to death ! Never had any probs and the precision is awesome. Weight definately affects this heli, in which is exactly why for any of my heli's when you add weight with one part deduct weight from another source on the heli that isn't as important. A give and take process so to speak.... I still have my stock skids on this thing, and I'am guessing since I just shortened them and heated them up possibly could have made them stronger. The frame has been shaved and is still the stock one... The boomtown hobbies mount for the boom, cut in half lost a few g's there, shortened the boom a bit... Vented 4 in 1.. Etc. etc. If there was a place I could lose 0.01 grams that wasn't necessary, I lost it... The pics are a little old, but my CX2 stock sits at 227 grams from the factory... In the picture with all the bling attached chrome boom sleeve, extra few doodads I'am only 2 grams overweight from stock.

I've had it before with all the CNC at 220 grams before, but since most my flights are outside, it was to light with the 2-cell and just wasn't as stable until I added a few more things to the heli to add a few more g's on it. I usually only run my 3-cells in it, and it goes over to 20 grams overweight from stock. Which works out superb for the power to weight ratio then.

I still have my CX2 today, and fly it once in awhile but it has been a great flyer as is....

With the parts you offer like the extended shafts, the different blades and other stuff I'am wondering what those individual weights are by chance...




With the 3-cell :

Man, you just can not give this up! I never once said you had a bad product, or have I fought with you over any weight issues. I called you, asked my question, you lied to me, I waisted my time and money or your products that did not do what you said they would for me.

Please do not tell me what is best, or what I should want, again. I, like many others, are happy with the few aluminum parts on my Blade. I wanted both aluminum heads and light wieght grips, end of story!

WHY WOULD I LIE
THERE IS NO POINT TO DO SO
AND NOW YOU ARE CALING US LIER ON A FORUM ( CEST PAS MAL PIPI CACA )
SAID BY (06sportster) :Its not a big deal. But, it just pisses me off when someone deliberately miss leads you to just make a sell.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIE AND NOT UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER
NEXT TIME SAID LOWER ROTOR HEAD BE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU WANT AND THIS FOR ANY SELLER , PERIOD !!!
WHEN SEMEONE WRITE BAD THING ON A PUBLIC FORUM FOR NOTHING OF COURSE I WILL NOT LETS THAT GOES
WHAT DO YOU THINK

SAID BY (06sportster) :
After I inquired about the cost of that and shipping, I was then told that it would not help me after all

FLYRCRIVESUD
this is not what happen

here the email sent
FLYRCRIVESUD TO 06sportster
you request about the alu lower hub it is so not comon that I have to made some more test and it is not compatible as said before our kit is compatible with alu head ( upper )
we have over 7000 clients and what I can tell you is that we receive almost no order about the lower rotor head that we have redesign this mean they do not break after instalation so
I offer you a refund send back the parts our goal is to offer low weigh and crash resistant parts

BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU THREAT SEMEONE OF LIE ON A PUBLIC FORUM (06sportster)
WE ARE FRENCH PEOPLES WITH BAD ENGLISH WRITHING, BUT WE ARE NOT STUPID

This thread has required entirely too much attention from our Administrative Staff today. I'm closing this thread down.

Ken