RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I got the blade cp and its my first copper and haveing problems hovering will the G90 Help .

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I got the blade cp and i'm having problems hovering will the G90 gyro help .

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Neophytex2001cx,

First off, printing all capital letters in a message on the internet is like YELLING. Many folks take offense to it, and I'm one of them.

I wasn't very accurate in my post, the cnc swash is much better than the stock swash. However, in my post I was thinking if the paper clip replacement for the stock shear pin made a difference in performance. And it doesn't. IF YOU WANT TO BUY IT, IT'S $200.

Sorry for the confusion,

Dave / Choppersrule
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RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

It had an extremely bad shaking problem that I couldnt correct.

Alex

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I use a medium size T-pin for the rotor driver pin.
Much easily to put in than that short jobber-do...
I bend over the other end, and cut it off short.
Vibrations can come from unbalanced blades, out-of-track paddles, a bent spindle, a bent main shaft.
To eliminate the main shaft as the culprit, remove the rotor head entirely, and spin up the shaft.
It should run true.
Feeling it as it turns should tell you that.

That leaves the rotating stuff on the rotor head... blades and flybar paddles/weights.
The paddles are easily knocked out of plane.
They must be parallel to each other, and to the center line on the flybar mount.
The blades can be tracked using the method in the manual.

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Brushless question!

I installed the Park 370 and the 20 amp eflight esc, works great! (brake mode is off on esc)

Sometimes when I get through flying the brake on the motor is on with no power, and sometimes it is off!

Any one else experience this?

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Duaneoo7, helis are hard to hover, the G90 will help a lot, but this will help even more:
RADD's
http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html

rob, mine doesn't do that, it has behaved very consistently, I think we have the exact same 20-amp ESC. How heavy is the brake effect, and where is the bottom of your throttle "servo" limit set in the tx?

And here are some pics of the Trex canopy modded for the BCPP:
First is a pic of the TRex canopy with no mods at all just sitting on the blade.
Next is a pic showing how I trimmed out along the lines of the "battery bulge" on the Trex canopy and moved the cut-out piece forward and up to produce the new profile. Secured it in place with clear pieces cut from a decal sheet. (Never throw that stuff away!)
Next a pic of the re-located attach points, using servo grommets and bits of silicone fuel tube. Note the little cutouts for the swash connectors: I put these in when I was using this canopy on my MX400Pro, they turned out to be in exactly the right spot here too!
Finally a pic showing the modded canopy in place ready for flight. The stripes are from MX400, non-pro version decal sheet, plus a little vinyl electrical tape in various colors.

Besides looking kind of cool, it really is cooler! There's more space for the electronics and the airflow around the motor is much improved.
:)

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I am running -110 to 80 on DX6 throttle setting!

I will program the esc again to make sure brake is off!

Just got done flying two batts.

1st time, I stopped and brake was off, just now on the 2nd, brake is on!

Weird. Performance is great! Just can't figure it out!

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

GUYS!

Look at my paper clip mod revisted thread on main page!

It is incredible how much no play between the shaft and rotar head stabilizes the bounce/bob during hover. Especially low hover like at 6"!

:)

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Hi Fellas,

I received a PM from one of the guys concerning the HS55 servos for the Blade CP/CPPro upgrade and whether or not it is justifiable, for $45 bucks.

Of course, if you have the stock Tx you have to do the modification, and do some reversing of the wiring in the servo.

With a programmable Tx, you can just reverse servo direction in the menu..

Down to the facts, the HS55's are much better than the S75's. I can't say that I see a dramatic difference. The however is, I would think, is it depends on the type of flying your doing. If your a back yard flyer like me and fly around trees and stuff and don't go over 10 mph, the stock servos are just fine.. NOW, if your getting pretty fancy and doing a lot of aerobatics or any 3D at all, then the $45 bucks would be a great upgrade. I wouldn't replace the existing servos unless your having problems or progressed to the 3D mode.
Replace all three at once if you are considering the upgrade.

Happy Hovering,
Dave / Choppersrule

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I am about to get inverted and want to limit my chances of failure...

Thanks for tyhe good info.

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Robmoney,

Your welcome. If you decide to the HS55's, check the difference in slop. Take the S75 and move the servo arm with finger tip pressure and you'll notice some movement. Do the same with the HS55's, NO movement at all. Much better servo on only a couple bucks more than the S75. The HS55's are the best bang for the buck..

Inverted!!!! I'm impressed, think it through, step by step, before your endeavor. Up is down, down is up, left is right and so on. Good luck, let us know how the inverted flight goes.

Dave / Choppersrule

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I try and fly the pro on my Clearview sim w/ my DX6 every day, so I will start up high to say the least!

Saw a post here somewhere, a guy was flying Clearview and said going inverted on his pro was very much like the sim...

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Are you using the stock push rods and ball ends?


[quote]ORIGINAL: choppersrule

Robmoney,

Your welcome. If you decide to the HS55's, check the difference in slop. Take the S75 and move the servo arm with finger tip pressure and you'll notice some movement. Do the same with the HS55's, NO movement at all. Much better servo on only a couple bucks more than the S75. The HS55's are the best bang for the buck..

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Robmoney,

Yes, I'm using the stock push rods and ball ends, but remember, I'm the backyard flyer. I think for your first attempt at inverted with the stock equipment will be okay. If you have the alum. swash, I understand that the Align balls will work fine? Mooo $$$$.:D

Dave / Choppersrule

[quote]ORIGINAL: robmoney

Are you using the stock push rods and ball ends?

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Yeah, ditto, I'm putting the stock head back on for all acro until I'm as good as Kyle Stacy...I'm leaving that MicroHeli head to my firstborn as the sole inheritance at this point...

rob, I've got my throttle set in the travel limit menu at -100, +70 (!)
and my throttle curve is like 0, 50, 100 in Normal, and TLS 30, T2S 70.
Pitch curves normal 55, 80, 100 and stunt 20, 65, 100, with 50 percent being 0 degrees and 100 percent being 12 1/2 degrees at the head.
This gives me a little calmer idle-up than before but it is still like, one notch of left stick goes from hover to ballistic climb, and I _still_ haven't been able to hit full throttle/collective, until the very end of the battery and the soft-cut is engaged.

Anyway I don't think throttle setting is the problem, maybe you should take the ESC back and get another one, brake is no good on the heli with no one-way bearing...

Yeah, the Align stainless steel balls were like 10 buxs for a bag of I don't know how many, maybe 25, plus about 12 of the little screws, and a bag of the sockets was about 4 buks. Enough to do 2 swashplates for the BCPP, and all of the critical balls on the MX400Pro. And I still have one or two left over. I think they will even fit on the CX...hmmmm....
And they do reduce the play quite a bit, yet without binding. Tastes great, and less filling. Smooth, yet mild.

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Hey guys, should I get the Blade CP Belt conversion kit for $55, or the DD tail unit and super-landing gear for $25 (I already have the super-landing gear) I want to be able to 3-D and I want to know which one would be better for response and holding ability. Im going to get a gyro and either a 370 4100kv brushless mtr for the DD unit, or a gyro and a 400 4200kv brushless mtr for the Belt kit.

Thanks, Alex

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Hey Alex, the belt drive will undoubtedly be the best setup for extreme 3d, but you know you will also need the tail case unit too, adds a few more bux to the cost. But then you will be able to build up another stock BCPP out of the pulls and spares, like me!
But in between you really might like the DD unit since it is such a simple conversion. "Bolt-on" as they say in the auto industry.

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Thanks

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

first of all, great forum, i'll be getting a bcpp in just a few days, it'll be my first chopper, now just wondering but how much would the belt conversion kit add weight wise, and does the cpp get to a point that you are pretty much required to get a bigger heli in order to continue growing as a pilot? thnxs for all the amzing info guys.

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Choppersrule thank you for your letting me know about the all caps. I am aware but was in a hurry and thought you were talking about the swash w no difference and thought I could get a good deal from a newb. First please do not vent here and take offense as it is just a forum and no need to get upset please review the policy

Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post. We encourage the free flow of your ideas, but believe that they can be communicated (and received) much more effectively if you keep things civil. If you have to vent, take it offline. We carefully monitor posts and will ban individuals who engage in offensive conduct within the forums. Thanks. (RCU Policies)

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Neophytex2001cx,

My intent was not to insult or embarrass you at all, just to let you know that some folks don't like all Caps. If for some reason you were offended by my message, I then apologize.

Sincerely,

Dave / Choppersrule
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Choppersrule thank you for your letting me know about the all caps. I am aware but was in a hurry and thought you were talking about the swash w no difference and thought I could get a good deal from a newb. First please do not vent here and take offense as it is just a forum and no need to get upset please review the policy

Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post. We encourage the free flow of your ideas, but believe that they can be communicated (and received) much more effectively if you keep things civil. If you have to vent, take it offline. We carefully monitor posts and will ban individuals who engage in offensive conduct within the forums. Thanks. (RCU Policies)
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RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

The Belt Conversion Kit will definately add a little weight, but will help a beginner because of it.

The Blade CP Pro is a very small helicopter designed for a gym or backyard. it is a "flying stress reliever". It will take quite a bit a money and upgrades to make very 3-D (aerobatic capable) worthy( though it can do loops, rolls, and inverted flight stock). In order to fill the full potential of a 3-D pilot, you will probably need a larger heli, such as a Thunder Tiger Raptor, because of power, precision, and manuverability.

You can become a profesional heli pilot with a electric heli too though (but its going to have to be a little bigger than a BCPP though, the smallest, probably mini(trex))

Its pretty much up to you.

These are just my opinions, others may disagree.



Alex

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

I broke my forth blade grip in a week yesterday. Is there something I can do to prevent breaking these grips? There $10 a pack of two and I don't want to keep paying. They break where the bell hilter links attach. The little "tube" where the scew goes in snaps off. One broke closer to the grip part so I glued it but I don't know how well it will work if at all.

On the other hand I might get a GREAT deal on the JR G500T Ring Gyro $75!! Brand New!!!

My hoby shop loves me.

Can't wait to get more flying time.

Thanks,
Justin/Commander Bob

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Also where could I get a belt driven tail mod?