Hey guys if anyone needs a BiSide I'm offering free shipping for a limited time Cont US and a deal on any Canada shipments.
Give me a call for details. It's not on the website.
Thanks, Mike Mueller
F3Aunlimited/ Gator-RC Products
800 591 2875

In case anyone wants to see what it looks like with red instead of silver. Courtesy of JR Varela.

I really like that. Thanks for sharing it Joe.
Mike Mueller
F3AUnlimited and Gator-RC
1800 591 2875
[email protected]

I was able to maiden my BiSide last week, but it was cold and windy, so not much for taking pictures. I was happy with the initial flights, but couldn't do much adjusting due to the weather. I went out yesterday on a beautiful day and put in 4 more flights on it. Very happy so far. Very solid airplane and should take minimal work to get it flying as I want. Right now, just adjusting rates for various maneuvers and seeing what I like best. CG is where BJ suggested and so far I seem happy there. I did use 4 Futaba BLS 173HV's on the ailerons and it is much improved over the F3A company plane I was playing with, which only used two servos in the bottom wings and the rods that are supplied. I definitely think the roll axis is much crisper, and it is especially noticeable in snaps. Weight is no issue at 4702g with TP 5400 Pro Lite packs.

Still work to do, but so far I'm happy,

Arch

I just love it Arch. I agree on the 4 servo setup. It seems superior.
The version that Arch has can be easily made out of an ARC that we still have in stock. If you need more info call me while they last. The BiSide has been very well received by the buyers so far. I've not heard any complaints.

Thanks Mike!

Yeah.. I'm going to refit mine with 4 aileron servos soon.

Look's Awesome Arch, can't wait to see it in person.


Bill

Hi,

last weekend we did the first flights with the BISIDE ; so for all works well. But we need with Falcon 21x13,5 a little bit more right thrust; I think we will do this with a mix "trottle to rudder".

BISIDE is flying well and for a biplane really less mixing

2 % rudder to elevator up
5 % rudder to aileron.

Next time we also test the new Falcon 3 blade prop 20x12,5.


Thanks to BJ and the forum support !!

Regards

Peter

Anyone have a firewall template for a rear mount outrunner they can share. I'm using a Pletty 30-10 EVO but anything I can find the prop shaft center will work.
Dave

Hi Guys, I am just finishing off my Biside and wondered how many of you are using the supplied linkages,and if they work ok as they seem a bit thin to me,but if they work ok there is no point in replacing them.
Regards Joe

Hey Joe in my opinion and I think If I were you I'd replace them.
Most have been using the Secraft 3MM Turnbuckles.
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...roducts_id=741
Coupled to these:
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...roducts_id=514
Or these drilled out a tad work great:
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...roducts_id=674
The F3A links fit nicely into the Secraft Servo arms we sell. It's very slick to have this intalled.
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...ort=20a&page=7

Hallo,

Biside is flying really really well; and with about 4,7 kg light. No problems with the F3A 5 kg !

So we ordered a second BISIDE !



Regards

PW

That's great news Peter.

Have you had a chance to compare the performance of the 2 blade and 3 blade props yet? I am curious what you will think.

I continue to be impressed with mine. I wish I had more chance to go flying this year, but so far it is really performing well. I flew it in very strong cross wind conditions recently and it handled the winds very well. But, of course, it really is a pleasure to fly in the calm conditions.

Hi Joe,

I used the suppied linkages with mine and they work ok. If you want to go with the upgrade i would.
I covered the steel rods with a 2mm carbonfibre tube. I also went with the Pull pul cables on the rudder so i had to get a linkage set for that.

Mikey

Hey guys I put the BiSide ARF and ARC's on sale for a limited time till the end of March. If you were on the fence maybe this could help.
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...dex&cPath=8_70
Thanks, Mike

What are guys using for wingbags for the Biside?

Yes wing bags!!!!
We need them.
Mike

I sent a pattern to Carden aircraft for Caroline to make a set. Should be done in a couple of weeks. After I get mine I'll let her know how they work and then they will be available.

Arch

THIS and duct tape are what I use to make all my wingbags.

Hi,
A friend and fellow F3A pilot has sent me a mail re his new Biside.
Ray is a top Structural Engineer and has represented Ireland at many EC's and WC's - is very experienced.
Back in the day he designed and built all his own models.

The mail ;

' Hi Brian, You will be aware that I procured the Biside.
The RCU tharead on wing mounting was very interesting and I have to say that I subscribe to the belief that improved fixing of the top wing to the fuselage could not be a bad thing, particularly regarding the ability of the top wing to skew on plan with one fixing.
When I tackled this problem I noted that the central support pod could be easily distorted in pitch by pressure on the fuselage sides in the area of the canopy. This is because there is no bracing of the fuselage by formers in this area and 'pinching' of the fuse causes the back of the pod to rise, thus putting negative incidence on the pod. I put in a lite ply former in line with the back of the top wing and then a smaller one, 3mm balsa, at the rear of the pod. (see photo) this stiffened the whole area immensely.

I made the extension on top of the pod from incredibly stiff 6mm carbon fibre/nomex laminate, having to cut out the nomex as necessary over the pod as it tapers down in thickness towards the front, and rebonding the skins with epoxy /microbaloons. I screwed this to the pod, fore and aft and epoxied it to the prepared pod. The wing airfoil is formed in balsa with a little lite ply at the rear end. All this can be made to achieve the 0 deg incidence required for the top wing. I used a carbon fibre tube epoxied into the wing and projecting down as a dowel and a larger tube epoxied in the mount (these were the same size tubes used for the horizontal tail mounts). These were finalised with the central bolt in position. The result is very positive. While my building wouldnt be pretty like yours the tube dowel drops into place simply, making it a doddle to locate the main bolt ( This was complained about elsewhere) and the top wing cabane strut fixings. There is absolutely no scope for the top wing to skew and the pitch stiffness is greatly enhanced. No need now for that curious little tie to assist lifting. I am now organising the last thing which is a securing bolt through the tubes at the rear to fix the wing and mount together. photos attached.

Nice idea.

What I did was similar to what JR had done previously, except I didn't use epoxy filler, I used triangle stock. I glued the spacers that set the incidence to the mount on the fuse, and then one properly positioned, I added triangle stock to the wing surrounding that and then shaped to fit. This essentially created a channel so that when the wing is bolted on, this eliminated any chance of it twisting. Working great so far,

Arch

Hi Arch,

Nice idea also.

Just posted Ray,s detail and info should others wish to use it.

Brian

I haven't installed the rear support for lifting and have been flying mine in the stock configuration now for quite some time. I notice no skew/twisting of the wings nor any ill effects so I haven't bothered to do any further changes to my mount set up. The thing flies great so I don't have much motivation to change it. The posted mods look fine and I don't see any downside in incorporating them.

Unfortunately, I'm considering selling mine due to nowhere to practice that doesn't involve driving for an hour or more. The local electric field got slapped with a HARD 400' ceiling due to people who don't feel rules apply to them. Ugh.