DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
09-22-2010 | 08:09 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
will this engine fit into a top flite 60 size mustang without cutting the whole cowl apart. and does anyone have the width dimensions with wrap around Pitts style muffler?
09-22-2010 | 08:14 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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will this engine fit into a top flite 60 size mustang without cutting the whole cowl apart. and does anyone have the width dimensions with wrap around Pitts style muffler?
will this engine fit into a top flite 60 size mustang without cutting the whole cowl apart. and does anyone have the width dimensions with wrap around Pitts style muffler?
09-22-2010 | 11:50 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Also interesting is the method of big end bearing retension.Rod end float obviously controlled at the little end and piston bosses.Are spacers used in that location?.
Looks to be set up for easy,straight forward bigend bearing/connecting rod replacement if necessary.Wonder if crank,rod,bigend bearing and crankpin are separately available parts.
Looks to be set up for easy,straight forward bigend bearing/connecting rod replacement if necessary.Wonder if crank,rod,bigend bearing and crankpin are separately available parts.
09-23-2010 | 01:27 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
On the 30 the rod is captive on the crank pin and is replaced with the crankshaft. On the 20 only the bearing is held captive on the crank pin, the rod will be able to be replaced separately. No spacers between the small end of the rod and wrist pin bosses in the piston.
09-23-2010 | 04:23 AM
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Thanks Jody for the confirmation of parts that can be replaced with reference to my post and your answer to my question
09-23-2010 | 04:36 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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Recapping the bits & pieces of info on this new engine, here's the
DLE 20cc gas engine details.......
Advertised weight: 29.2 oz with ign. and muffler
Prop range: 16 X 8 to 18 X 6
Rear Carb
Beam style mount
DLE20cc manual - compression ratio 10.5:1
Tower Hobbies - compression ratio 7.6:1
[Dimensions]:
Motor mount bolt spacing is 1'', case width is 1-7/8''
Distance from firewall to prop washer is 5-11/16''
From the center of the rear mounting hole to the edge of the open choke valve is 2-5/16''
Distance from propeller hub to the front of thr cylinder: 42 mm
Width of cylinder at exhaust port: 56 mm
Distance from the center line to the top of spark plug cap: 120 mm
(with spark plug cap fully inserted).
Prop shaft size : M8 x1.0 mm (w/two nuts)
[Ignition info]
Stock parkplug is a made in China CM-6 type (DLE 3)
Valley View R/C will include true NGK/CM-6
Electronic auto advance ignition
Ignition is a new model (#3) and special designed for this engine.
DLE recommended voltage range 4.8-6.0 volts
[Prop Data]:
APC Sport 16x7 9000 RPM 14lbs. 7oz.
JXF Beech 16x8 8300 13lbs. 10oz.
JXF Beech 17x7 7970 13lbs. 12oz.
SY 16x8 8500 13lbs. 5oz.
SY 17x8N 8200 14lbs. 9oz.
[VIDEO's];
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCHXY6_w6RY]Jody Haack - test flight video......[/link]
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBwqL9AIJ1U]First bench run (mpascualslp).......[/link]
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkwr_jc9HVA]and the engine response after 1 hour (mpascualslp)......[/link]
[Interesting comments]:
same mount size as OS 1.20
a 20cc is a drop in replacement for .90 to 1.20 size four stroke
more power than a CRRC Pro 26 or a Saito 1.25
20cc = 1.20 c.i.
30cc = 1.80 c.i.
[Warranty]
Valley View R/C; 1 year
Tower Hobbies; 2 years
[Ordering info....]
[link=http://www.valleyviewrc.com/DLE-20cc%20Gas%20Engine.htm]Valley View RC.....[/link]
[Owners manual]
[link={akamaiimageforum}/upfiles/22988/Ig11581.pdf]DLE20cc manual.....[/link]
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Recapping the bits & pieces of info on this new engine, here's the
DLE 20cc gas engine details.......
Advertised weight: 29.2 oz with ign. and muffler
Prop range: 16 X 8 to 18 X 6
Rear Carb
Beam style mount
DLE20cc manual - compression ratio 10.5:1
Tower Hobbies - compression ratio 7.6:1
[Dimensions]:
Motor mount bolt spacing is 1'', case width is 1-7/8''
Distance from firewall to prop washer is 5-11/16''
From the center of the rear mounting hole to the edge of the open choke valve is 2-5/16''
Distance from propeller hub to the front of thr cylinder: 42 mm
Width of cylinder at exhaust port: 56 mm
Distance from the center line to the top of spark plug cap: 120 mm
(with spark plug cap fully inserted).
Prop shaft size : M8 x1.0 mm (w/two nuts)
[Ignition info]
Stock parkplug is a made in China CM-6 type (DLE 3)
Valley View R/C will include true NGK/CM-6
Electronic auto advance ignition
Ignition is a new model (#3) and special designed for this engine.
DLE recommended voltage range 4.8-6.0 volts
[Prop Data]:
APC Sport 16x7 9000 RPM 14lbs. 7oz.
JXF Beech 16x8 8300 13lbs. 10oz.
JXF Beech 17x7 7970 13lbs. 12oz.
SY 16x8 8500 13lbs. 5oz.
SY 17x8N 8200 14lbs. 9oz.
[VIDEO's];
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCHXY6_w6RY]Jody Haack - test flight video......[/link]
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBwqL9AIJ1U]First bench run (mpascualslp).......[/link]
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkwr_jc9HVA]and the engine response after 1 hour (mpascualslp)......[/link]
[Interesting comments]:
same mount size as OS 1.20
a 20cc is a drop in replacement for .90 to 1.20 size four stroke
more power than a CRRC Pro 26 or a Saito 1.25
20cc = 1.20 c.i.
30cc = 1.80 c.i.
[Warranty]
Valley View R/C; 1 year
Tower Hobbies; 2 years
[Ordering info....]
[link=http://www.valleyviewrc.com/DLE-20cc%20Gas%20Engine.htm]Valley View RC.....[/link]
[Owners manual]
[link={akamaiimageforum}/upfiles/22988/Ig11581.pdf]DLE20cc manual.....[/link]
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09-23-2010 | 10:42 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: Bladejunkie
Well I ran about 12oz of 32:1 Pennzoil mix,I started it per the manual.It caught on the tenth flip with the choke on,then about five more flips without choke and away she went.I will mount her up to my Pulse tonight,and hopefully maiden plane and engine on the weekend.
Later Jim.
Well I ran about 12oz of 32:1 Pennzoil mix,I started it per the manual.It caught on the tenth flip with the choke on,then about five more flips without choke and away she went.I will mount her up to my Pulse tonight,and hopefully maiden plane and engine on the weekend.
Later Jim.
09-23-2010 | 11:19 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Thinking this might go well into a Great Planes Super Stearman at 14-16 lbs. Have put a Zenoah 26 into one and it flew well. Will this pull as well as the Zenoah 26?
09-23-2010 | 01:14 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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Looks good! What are the eight dots on the head near the squish area? Why is the conrod copper (?) plated?
Looks good! What are the eight dots on the head near the squish area? Why is the conrod copper (?) plated?
09-23-2010 | 01:16 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Jody, thanks for the nice photos of inside a DLE20cc engine. I sure like the engineering job the DLE company has done . I bet there will be more good products they will place on the market in the future.
Best Regards capt,n
Best Regards capt,n
09-23-2010 | 01:31 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Tower just changed the DLE 20 arrival time from early October to late September! [img]{akamaiimageforum}/micons/m6.gif[/img]
Woohooo!
By the way, I found a cheap source for NGK CM-6 plugs [link=http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-98052-56471.html]here[/link]. They are $1.97 each and I bought four for $9.63 (and that includes shipping).
Woohooo!
By the way, I found a cheap source for NGK CM-6 plugs [link=http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-98052-56471.html]here[/link]. They are $1.97 each and I bought four for $9.63 (and that includes shipping).
09-23-2010 | 03:08 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Can the DLE 20 cc Gas engine use a 3 blade prop? if so what size am I looking at and what make or brand, using engine for P-51 60size would like to use a 4 blade prop but I don`t think thats feesable?
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09-23-2010 | 04:12 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
I have a RCS 140 (22cc) two stroke gasser in a Hanger 9 PT-19. The RCS 140 has a rotary valve instead of the reed valve that the DLE 20 has. The RCS 140 weighs 38 oz with ign. and muffler. It appears to me that the DLE 20 would be a good replacement engine for this plane. Any thoughts, pro and con.
SuperCub Man. I also have the G26 in my GP Super Stearman. I chose that engine because of its weight and I still had to add lead to the nose. It’s a great combo.
Gramps
SuperCub Man. I also have the G26 in my GP Super Stearman. I chose that engine because of its weight and I still had to add lead to the nose. It’s a great combo.
Gramps
09-23-2010 | 06:17 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
SkyPilot101,I'll try to get some pics for you as soon as I can.It's really an easy install,if you've ever cut a cowl for any other engine this one shouldn't be a problem.Cutting that beautiful cowl was awful,I was tempted to buy one of those Pitts mufflers,but eighty bucks is crazy to me.This engine is about the same size as an OS 120,so mounts and hardware are the same.It took me about an hour to install engine and cut and mount cowl.This engine is really smooth right out of the box,so I don't see any need to ad more wood and stuff to the firewall,but thats just my opinion.
Later Jim.
Later Jim.
09-23-2010 | 06:35 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
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SuperCub Man. I also have the G26 in my GP Super Stearman. I chose that engine because of its weight and I still had to add lead to the nose. It’s a great combo.
Gramps
SuperCub Man. I also have the G26 in my GP Super Stearman. I chose that engine because of its weight and I still had to add lead to the nose. It’s a great combo.
Gramps
Thanks for that Gramps - Forgot about the nose weight and the DLE would mean adding a lot more!
09-23-2010 | 07:33 PM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
Yea, I got mine today! It looks great, I plan on first mounting in place of the RCGF 20cc on my Ultra Stick. I have always felt the RGCF was a bit weak, it will be interesting to see a direct comparo.
09-24-2010 | 10:02 AM
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RE: NEW DLE 20cc Gasser! (Data & Links 1st Post)
ORIGINAL: SpinnerRow
Tower just changed the DLE 20 arrival time from early October to late September! [img]{akamaiimageforum}/micons/m6.gif[/img]
Woohooo!
By the way, I found a cheap source for NGK CM-6 plugs [link=http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-98052-56471.html]here[/link]. They are $1.97 each and I bought four for $9.63 (and that includes shipping).
Tower just changed the DLE 20 arrival time from early October to late September! [img]{akamaiimageforum}/micons/m6.gif[/img]
Woohooo!
By the way, I found a cheap source for NGK CM-6 plugs [link=http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-98052-56471.html]here[/link]. They are $1.97 each and I bought four for $9.63 (and that includes shipping).
The engines are in at Towers and getting ready to ship. They sent me notice of billing my credit card last night.
