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Old 01-13-2008 | 09:21 PM
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It is beyond unfortunate that Al would be considered such a evil nemises that he would have new posts deleted and finally blocked. It seems that RCU would have been better off letting him come back quietly and letting this whole thing blow over. Just my opinion!
See my last post. He's not banned or blocked.
Old 01-13-2008 | 09:46 PM
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Your post preceeded mine just briefly. I have been writing in a forum with AL for a while, and know that his last post has been removed. It had no political content at all. Not looking for trouble, but it was a helpful post to a newbie. I hope you will be returning his post as your post has said.
Old 01-13-2008 | 09:53 PM
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If we put this much effort into getting a new set of smileys I'd be kicking my feet for happy like a chineese baby with bells on.
Old 01-13-2008 | 09:53 PM
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Your post preceeded mine just briefly. I have been writing in a forum with AL for a while, and know that his last post has been removed. It had no political content at all. Not looking for trouble, but it was a helpful post to a newbie. I hope you will be returning his post as your post has said.
It doesn't work like that.

I ONLY moderate in this forum. I work in Gas Engines, Glow Engines, Conversion Engines, Fuel etc...

I can't do a darn thing to restore his posts in the AMA forum, Beginners forum, Giant Scale forum--or ANY other forum on this board. I can't even see if his post was deleted or edited in another forum. We don't have broad sweeping power in ALL forums. We are each given one or two SPECIFIC forums where we can edit, delete, or move posts and content. Outside of that particular forum--we are just another user--just like you.

Community moderators (higher on the pay scale--which ain't much, because not a one of us makes a penny doing this.) can work multiple forums and see a lot more than a "forum specific" moderator like me. I have no clue what goes on and who gets deleted or approved or edited in any other forums. I ONLY work the engines forums.
Old 01-13-2008 | 10:36 PM
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Give it up Rcpilet, you're talking to a wall.

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Old 01-14-2008 | 08:09 PM
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Give it up Rcpilet, you're talking to a wall.

Dr.1
Isn't this comment what this is all about? Your implication is very offensive to me! I am not dense or dumb. For your information, RCpilet stated that Al's posts would be returned once they were read for content. I see now that Rcpilet was asked to remove that post. That is mighty strange in my book! My post was a request for him to live up to the promise to return Al's non offensive posts. Now because his post has been removed, I guess that means the promise was never made.

I was doing a good job staying neutral in this. Now, I suspect It will be me getting moderated. I will be in very good company!

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Old 01-14-2008 | 08:24 PM
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To get this right...are you saying the post that was removed conained the promise? If so...you are right it seems...promise is gone with post???? Capt,n
Old 01-14-2008 | 08:35 PM
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To get this right...are you saying the post that was removed conained the promise? If so...you are right it seems...promise is gone with post???? Capt,n
Yes!!!! A promise was made!!!!
Old 01-14-2008 | 09:03 PM
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You guys are chasing your tails.

RCPilet is talking about how it works when someone is on moderated status. All of their posts are screened before released to be posted in the forums. He didn't break any promises. From what I know, the member in question hasn't posted anything that I've seen yet. RCPilet can't just produce material to keep you guys from looking for things to bicker about.
Old 01-14-2008 | 09:29 PM
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You guys are chasing your tails.

RCPilet is talking about how it works when someone is on moderated status. All of their posts are screened before released to be posted in the forums. He didn't break any promises. From what I know, the member in question hasn't posted anything that I've seen yet. RCPilet can't just produce material to keep you guys from looking for things to bicker about.
I have good information that posts were made and removed. I also read one post from Al that was very helpful to a newbie, and it was removed. There was nothing political about it. In my opinion it was removed out of spite. Nothing else! Al was being helpful, and a glance of what was read would have told the moderator that. When it was stated by either Marc or Rcpilet that the posts would be returned once they were read and approved for content, I had my doubts. When the post containing that promise was removed, I knew something was wrong. Then, I am attacked by Dr1 pilot. This is a violation of the rules! I now understand how things got so out of control. This isn't about getting one's nose out of joint, it is about principle! I have loved RCU for years! If this isn't corrected, it isn't my loss under these conditions! I am nobody important, but so are the 50 or 60 people I have directed to RCU over the years.
Old 01-14-2008 | 09:42 PM
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I think I know which posts you are talking about, and you are missing a lot of facts. The details are related to another member, and it isn't proper to discuss it with anyone but him. It was removed for a good reason and you will just have to take that on face value, or you can choose to reject it.

What I said in my previous post is still correct.

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Dr1Driver did not come close to violating any rules. He stated an opinion which was concise. It wasn't directed at anyone.
Old 01-14-2008 | 09:44 PM
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Unfortunately this thread has progressed into driving everyone away, regressing into a venting, bickering thread.
I guess I can't call the kettle black since I have participated in the venting, bickering part too[] Maybe once we get it all out of our systems we can get back to normal. I'll never be really normal, but everyone else might.
Old 01-14-2008 | 09:46 PM
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I'm sorry, but I don't think you know what I am talking about. There seems to be a real negative twist put on everything here. If you want to discuss this properly, PM me or send me an e-mail and I will be properly explicit!

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Old 01-15-2008 | 12:50 AM
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I never made any promises to restore or approve any of Als posts in the AMA forum.. I was simply EXPLAINING how some of the rules of moderation work. I am not the one who can approve or delete Als posts UNLESS he posts in the ENGINES forums. Anything he posts in any of the other forums on RCU would have to be handled by the moderator who works THAT forum.

EXAMPLE:
I can't moderate, approve, delete or edit a darn thing in the 3D forum. Not my forum.
FlyboyDave can't moderate anything in the Engines forum. Not his forum.
BLW can't moderate anything in the Giant Scale and Aerobatic forum. Not his forum.

I'm done here. Seams like this has turned into a witchhunt for moderators on RCU. I came here to try and help--not stir the pot as some members have done. I tried to offer some transparency on how the moderation system works, so that members would have a better understanding of why certain actions are taken. I guess my attempt to help was either misunderstood or fell on deaf ears.

Good luck guys. Like it or not, this is still the best RC forum on the net. Why? Because it is family friendly. Your wife and your 8yr old kid can come here and not see any porn, cursing or outright name-calling. That means a lot to me. Not because my wife or kids read this board. They don't. But because it speaks VOLUMES about the CHARACTER of the people who run this site.
Old 01-15-2008 | 02:16 AM
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Maybe once we get it all out of our systems we can get back to normal.
Fortunately for me my "Cabin" has been fever free this winter. ( although things could change...[8D])
Old 01-15-2008 | 07:41 AM
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Gentleman:

Prior to this thread, I had a pretty quiet and enjoyable exhistance on RCU. So quiet, in fact, that most reading this probably never knew that I exhisted. I have taken my discusion with the moderators out of the public eye, and they have been open and fair with me. The negative events I have been part of do not make me feel good about myself. I love this hobby/sport, and running from and throwing flaming darts really detracts from it. The principles that have been discussed here will hopefully bring about positive change. I for one wish to return to my quiet corner of RCU. I appologize to anyone that I may have offended. That is not my nature. If the moderator of this forum can make it possible that I do not get contacted when any posts are made to this particular thread, I would appreciate it. I don't want the temptation to jump back into this.

Best wishes to all of you!

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Old 01-15-2008 | 07:54 AM
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Andy,
It is all too easy to get caught up in the moment. No harm - no foul.
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Old 01-15-2008 | 08:12 AM
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Old 01-15-2008 | 08:43 AM
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Amen, blw. Preach on!

They're all blowing smoke. I haven't seen any of the posts or anything else to back up the mudslinging and yellow-dog witchhunt.

Someone is having a duel of wits with someone else who's unarmed. I won't mention names lest I anger the crybaby gods.

And on that note, I am outta this one!

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It seems like RCpilets words in a post was " a post was removed for now, I will try to repost it again later" Thinking about that...the word TRY....I guess is not real promise. So we cannot to be harsh on RCpilet. He is probably one of the best mods RCU Has. Not try to flame or keep this going. Please be nice everyone. Most of you guys that reply are the type of people that like to help no matter where you go. So lets not harm our good intentions. Keep Helping...and you cannot go wrong. Thanks & Best Regards.
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It seems like RCpilets words in a post was " a post was removed for now, I will try to repost it again later" Thinking about that...the word TRY....I guess is not real promise. So we cannot to be harsh on RCpilet. He is probably one of the best mods RCU Has. Not try to flame or keep this going. Please be nice everyone. Most of you guys that reply are the type of people that like to help no matter where you go. So lets not harm our good intentions. Keep Helping...and you cannot go wrong. Thanks & Best Regards.
Be nice everyone, that's a little like calling the kettle black, you attack at will then tell others to be nice, saw you do it to a mod a couple of weeks ago because he did not post his suggestion on every 26cc engine out there so you blamed him for being one sided and pushing a certain product. I can show you other places where you do the same thing here is the post I am talking about

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6833632

so if you are going to tell someone that they are a good mod you need to tell all the mods whether they are good or bad, not just one
Old 01-15-2008 | 04:15 PM
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bjamesjr: You are right my wording was not well tought out. I am not good at this kind of stuff. All I wanted to get across was that try to be fair. I thought at that time , a moderator can handle any kind of post on being fair. I now realize that it is hard to do for a moderator. So the only alternative is all of us to do the best we can in these matters. I did say Please...thats quite different than saying "you got to". I meant only good things to come out from all this. If you or anybody else cannot see that, I do not know what to say. If anybody wants me to go back and edit any of my postings...I will. I said that before. Your not human if you never word something just right. What is your suggestion? Is this your first post? Thanks Capt,n
Old 01-15-2008 | 04:45 PM
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Nope, not my first post on RCU but my first one with this ID. I canceled my other account due to serious time limitations expecting not to have time any longer to visit RCU but I had some spare time today so I created a new one since I cannot re-enable my old one (I tried). I've basically been on this site for roughly 4 yrs. Post count doesn't mean anything anyway. I saw where you said please, but the following and previous to that word blanked out anything else, just look at the responses you got both from other members and other mods

My point is we are all human we make mistakes but that as well as this thread certainly could have been handled way differently.

As far as this thread goes, it's amazing to me just how blown out of proportion things can get and as far as I am concerned anything else I say will fall on deaf ears as some people cannot see past their own nose
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bjamesjr,
I've called Captinjohn at home and he has helped me out. He is a really nice guy and very considerate. I'm sure his posting that you are alluding to was not the norm for him. Sometimes what we write just doesn't come across as what we mean. It is way too easy to get caught up in the moment. Something that would not happen if we were face to face and could see each others expressions or hear each other voices.
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bjamesjr: May I ask what your user name was on RCU? Maybe we can see how you done on this site the last 4 years. I know I replied to many new people who did not seem to get any relplies....so I helped the best I could. Most of my know how has come from some very nice guys that helped me figured out how to do just basic things. You see I had to learn everything back the hard long way. If you had a CVA...or know what that means you will know. I kinda Cherish the guys that took time to help learn things back. Sorry I cannot go on trying to explain further. Best Regards to all Capt,n


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