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What is the cost on some of them you guys are talking about please?????
What is the cost on some of them you guys are talking about please?????
these have better specs...
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPHD2&P=0
You want a good inexpensive servo to put in your plane... get some Power HD-9150's from TBM. $33.00 each, with 220oz of torque, digitals. (not for throttle)
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Here ya go Eric. Great cheap fast servo. Also it's metal geared so it will be safe.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXN667&P=ML
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXN667&P=ML
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I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
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I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
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I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
I would think it would be hard to strip a servo from vibrations... when I first started with gassers I ran regular Futaba 3004 servos on my throttles and they did the job.
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I would think it would be hard to strip a servo from vibrations...
I would think it would be hard to strip a servo from vibrations...
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If a person can be so bad as to mess up a 333oz servo from setting it up wrong on the throttle he/she shouldn't be tinkering with large scale planes...
If a person can be so bad as to mess up a 333oz servo from setting it up wrong on the throttle he/she shouldn't be tinkering with large scale planes...
I've seen people complaining about the horrible Hitec servos and after some investigation it seemed they were using them on control surfaces w/ big hinge gaps and w/o hinge tape on their fast planes.
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Figure about 400-500 mAh per wot running hour on a 4.8v single plug ignition. Most people waaay over battery their ignition systems.
Figure about 400-500 mAh per wot running hour on a 4.8v single plug ignition. Most people waaay over battery their ignition systems.
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I am running a 4.8 2500mAh battery for the engine and 6..0 2500mAh for the servos. And these are just NI-MH batterys I should be just fine right? I bought these for this plane brand new so I hope they wil be okay???
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Massive overkill for the ignition. 1,000 mAh would have been plenty.
Something wrong with the guy only getting 5 flights on the 2,300 A123. Should be quite a bit more than that. I can, and generally do, more than that with a 1,000 mAh 4.8v nicad on a 50cc single. Using 70% as an A123 battery cut off point, or roughly 1,600 mAh, averaging 450 mAh/ignition hour, you should be getting close to 3 hours (lots of fudge factor) of ignition running time. Yes, I use them too and know that as the voltage drops the discharge rate increases. Are you running straight battery to the ignition? If so you're wasting a lot of flight time to heat discharged from excess voltage.
The flight battery is dependant on the servos and linkage installation. A 6v will run down faster than a 4.8 but you lose servo speed and torque. I would make it a point to field check that battery every couple of flights and recharge when the battery drops down to nominal capacity. Especially if you're using a JR 2.4 system, the "brownout" king.
Something wrong with the guy only getting 5 flights on the 2,300 A123. Should be quite a bit more than that. I can, and generally do, more than that with a 1,000 mAh 4.8v nicad on a 50cc single. Using 70% as an A123 battery cut off point, or roughly 1,600 mAh, averaging 450 mAh/ignition hour, you should be getting close to 3 hours (lots of fudge factor) of ignition running time. Yes, I use them too and know that as the voltage drops the discharge rate increases. Are you running straight battery to the ignition? If so you're wasting a lot of flight time to heat discharged from excess voltage.
The flight battery is dependant on the servos and linkage installation. A 6v will run down faster than a 4.8 but you lose servo speed and torque. I would make it a point to field check that battery every couple of flights and recharge when the battery drops down to nominal capacity. Especially if you're using a JR 2.4 system, the "brownout" king.
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Why do you say over killl? Because mAh is only the length of battery time will last right?? I have been running the 6 volt batterys in all of my other planes and not one problem. I run spektrum DX6i.
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Why do you say over killl? Because mAh is only the length of battery time will last right?? I have been running the 6 volt battrys in all of my other planes and not one problem. I run spektrum DX6i.
Why do you say over killl? Because mAh is only the length of battery time will last right?? I have been running the 6 volt battrys in all of my other planes and not one problem. I run spektrum DX6i.
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I am running a 4.8 2500mAh battery for the engine and 6..0 2500mAh for the servos. And these are just NI-MH batterys I should be just fine right? I bought these for this plane brand new so I hope they wil be okay???
I am running a 4.8 2500mAh battery for the engine and 6..0 2500mAh for the servos. And these are just NI-MH batterys I should be just fine right? I bought these for this plane brand new so I hope they wil be okay???
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By overkill I meant you have a lot more than you needed for a days flying. I don't use batteries that large on twins. 2,000 mAh at 4.8v provides two continuous hours running with a little to spare on a twin.
People buy more battery in cost and weight than they need because they do not understand how an ignition works. More is not always better, 6v is not optimum for a 4.8v circuit, and having more generally costs and weighs more. No big deal if that's what you seek but many are looking for the cheapest an most efficient way.
People buy more battery in cost and weight than they need because they do not understand how an ignition works. More is not always better, 6v is not optimum for a 4.8v circuit, and having more generally costs and weighs more. No big deal if that's what you seek but many are looking for the cheapest an most efficient way.
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The Hitec 7955tg list its stall torque or holding torque, the true torque as tested by TBM is only 248oz/in. Thats why I would just go with the HD-9150's they list 220oz/in, and put out 224oz/in More bang for your buck![8D]
I would think it would be hard to strip a servo from vibrations... when I first started with gassers I ran regular Futaba 3004 servos on my throttles and they did the job.
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I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
I have yet to loose a servo on the throttle on any of my gas or glow planes due to vibration, unless the engine was mounted on rubber or comes loose the servo is going to move just as much as the engine will and if the end points are adjusted correctly theres no pressure at either end point there shouldn't be any issues. I keep my throttle servo as close as possible to the carb. I do agree that a digital MG servo would be a good investment for obvious reasons. But 333 oz of torque is not only overkill it also adds more weight to the plane. Whats next a sailwench servo ?????
I would think it would be hard to strip a servo from vibrations... when I first started with gassers I ran regular Futaba 3004 servos on my throttles and they did the job.
I have used more standard servos for the throttle than I care to remember and never once had one fail, like you said it all depends on how well you set your planes up.
Hey Joe here ya go, its a little slow but it has plenty of power http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXE530&P=0


