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Old 01-05-2021, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Monty Python
Bruce you could always spray the pipes matt black and then make a decision, they look better that way.

Welcome tmaxx glad to see you putting the fa182 td in the sig 1/4 scale cub. if you are wondering about performance i can help, don't. I have an 83" h9 taylorcraft of the same flying weight running an fa182td spinning a mas classic [email protected] it's happy to go vertical after half of the 24oz tank is gone. Even fully fuelled and rich it has way more than scale power for aerobatics and does beautiful TALL loops. Good luck.

ps i've seen a person i know try and mount the fa182td carbs upwards in a h9 taylorcraft ( don't ask me why ) which looks weird and lowers the prop shaft drive line, makes the whole model look awful.
Thanks for the welcome and comments Monty Python. I am mounting the engine with the carbs down in my Cub. I makes the exhaust routing a little tricky but I didn't think the carbs sticking out of the top of the cowl would look good. I did drop the engine thrust line 5mm for this build. I didn't think it would affect the flying performance and it is difficult to see that little of a drop. It just makes the exhaust routing a little easier. (I hope).
Old 01-05-2021, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tmaxx1701
No, I haven't started it yet. I hope to have the plane finished this year and will break in the engine this summer.

Dave
Wow, you have much more restraint than I. I would have started it the day I got it! Lol

Don't be a stranger Dave, share your Saito stories new or old. Between folks sharing test runs, flights, overhauls, performance data, Pete taking shots at everyone and Gary, David and I bantering back and forth on engine theory there's usually something going on here every day. Never a dull moment. Lots of great folks here, enjoy!

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Old 01-05-2021, 06:52 AM
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I test mounted the 182 on the Rascal 110, I don't think it's doable due to the ugly mentioned above. The carb and needles would not leave much if any cowl at the top. I marked the suggested single mount holes to compare to the twin's mount holes.


Thrust line highlighted from factory stamped thrust line. Suggested single engine mount holes marked.

Saito 182 test mounted. Requires more thinking.
Old 01-05-2021, 08:23 AM
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I am actually following a build on Facebook by David Zotzman for the 182 and Sig 1/4 cub combo. He has installed the motor and cut the cowl to fit around it. The last time I checked he had not finished the plane for the maiden but hopefully it will be before I maiden mine and can learn from his experience.


These pictures are Dave's from his Facebook post.

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Old 01-05-2021, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobbsy
Thankyou, maybe that needs a qualifier, here at Saito U some of us might deserve a, (most of the time) on the end.
He's shipping it this AM, I hope his cam is OK.

is this the guy who sent the 60T to Horizon and they would put bearings in?
Old 01-05-2021, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tmaxx1701
I am actually following a build on Facebook by David Zotzman for the 182 and Sig 1/4 cub combo. He has installed the motor and cut the cowl to fit around it. The last time I checked he had not finished the plane for the maiden but hopefully it will be before I maiden mine and can learn from his experience.
These pictures are Dave's from his Facebook post.
Would you have a link to David's facebook posts?
Old 01-05-2021, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
Would you have a link to David's facebook posts?
Here it is.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/406481...0148590440835/

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Thanks Dave!
Old 01-05-2021, 02:29 PM
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Finally see how it works here.

Hobbs an Lonnie are the tech wizards while I exist for absorbing pot shots from Pete.

The world is but a stage, we all play a part.

Thanks for the tech lessons fellows, couldnt fly without them.


LOL
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Finally see how it works here.

Hobbs an Lonnie are the tech wizards while I exist for absorbing pot shots from Pete.

The world is but a stage, we all play a part.

Thanks for the tech lessons fellows, couldnt fly without them.


LOL

I guess that makes Pete either resident curmudgeon or the crazy uncle every family/group has one hidden away somewhere. In the meantime for all you classical scholars, I guess I'm consigned to the chorus. Oh well it beats being the fool.
Old 01-05-2021, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse Open
Finally see how it works here.

Hobbs an Lonnie are the tech wizards while I exist for absorbing pot shots from Pete.

The world is but a stage, we all play a part.

Thanks for the tech lessons fellows, couldnt fly without them.


LOL

Oops, sorry. I may have put the comma in the wrong spot or included one where unnecessary..
Old 01-05-2021, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tmaxx1701
Thanks for the welcome and comments Monty Python. I am mounting the engine with the carbs down in my Cub. I makes the exhaust routing a little tricky but I didn't think the carbs sticking out of the top of the cowl would look good. I did drop the engine thrust line 5mm for this build. I didn't think it would affect the flying performance and it is difficult to see that little of a drop. It just makes the exhaust routing a little easier. (I hope).
I guess we'll have to call you ' the other dave' buddy

The facebook link you showed is the correct way to mount an fa182td, the cowl on my taylorcraft is so broad i only needed to cut a tiny relief in the cowl top for the right angle exhaust adapter, you need long exhaust tubes to exit the bottom. 'Old dave' promptly came on showing his fa182td mounted upside down, which goes to show you he has a quiet sense of humour too
Old 01-05-2021, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC
I guess that makes Pete either resident curmudgeon or the crazy uncle every family/group has one hidden away somewhere. In the meantime for all you classical scholars, I guess I'm consigned to the chorus. Oh well it beats being the fool.
Mike i object to being called curmugeonly ( negative/grumpy ) but will gracefully accept crazy, makes me feel normal in this world right now. Gary i like to have a lot of fun, sometimes at other peoples expense but it's all good natured and no harm meant, please return fire anytime you like it's good to have some light hearted humour in a hobby we all love. The world is a too serious place most of the time eg; your orange man is about to get the boot so there goes some of the humour i've relied on for fun over the last four years...get it?
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Originally Posted by ThunderBoat42
is this the guy who sent the 60T to Horizon and they would put bearings in?

That's him, he should be getting it back today, Horizon sent new bearings with it to him, he sent them to me and I installed Boca Bearings and sent the Horizon bearings back to him. His 60-t is a good solid engine, it had a totally locked up mid bearing, the rear most double bearings are good. It has good cam and cam bearings.
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Originally Posted by Monty Python
Mike i object to being called curmugeonly ( negative/grumpy ) but will gracefully accept crazy, makes me feel normal in this world right now. Gary i like to have a lot of fun, sometimes at other peoples expense but it's all good natured and no harm meant, please return fire anytime you like it's good to have some light hearted humour in a hobby we all love. The world is a too serious place most of the time eg; your orange man is about to get the boot so there goes some of the humour i've relied on for fun over the last four years...get it?
Pete, I think I'm 10 years your senior, maybe I'm the kermujun.
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Originally Posted by Monty Python
Mike i object to being called curmugeonly ( negative/grumpy ) but will gracefully accept crazy, makes me feel normal in this world right now. Gary i like to have a lot of fun, sometimes at other peoples expense but it's all good natured and no harm meant, please return fire anytime you like it's good to have some light hearted humour in a hobby we all love. The world is a too serious place most of the time eg; your orange man is about to get the boot so there goes some of the humour i've relied on for fun over the last four years...get it?
Well "crazy" does seem to fit you! I use to think something like this might put a lot of comedians out of work, now I believe it just spurs them to write new jokes! If we can't laugh at ourselves and our friends what good is life? A life without humor (we'll over look your poor spelling. ) would be pretty miserable.

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Dave, I trial fitted my 182 in the Rascal a few years ago. Occured to me at ghe time it would work out better with carbs on the belly.
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I am highly considering adding to my shop equipment a Scanner plotter. Got a lead on an HP T2300 that scans prints up to 44" wide. Would make getting the plans into the computer much easier so that I can load the parts into the laser software. The B-17 plans I have are 1/10th scale, and I want to enlarge them to 1/8th scale, but then the plans are too wide for the local shops that have wide format printers, and the plans for the Top flight .60 kits are too wide to scan at the same places. Last time I had copies made of the P-51 it cost me $80. I can get a 300' roll for less than that.
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That would be a nice addition.
Old 01-06-2021, 10:46 AM
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I have to move the washer and dryer out and a shelf unit to make room for it. It is 70" x 44" x 40" The one I was looking at is $800, but appears to be missing the trays and basket, so looking at a refurb on Ebay that has everything. There is no rate for shipping either, so I may go with the Ebay one as I can get a good Paypal deal like I did with the Laser. I could probably set up a print/scan service with it too.
Old 01-06-2021, 11:10 AM
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Awesome Todd. I have a half dozen or so large format plans I'd love to have scanned and reprinted.
Old 01-06-2021, 11:21 AM
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Gary, have you received the FA125 yet? Hopefully it arrived in good condition.
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Well I have good news and bad news. Bad news is I tested positive along with my wife and one granddaughter. Good news is just a little congestion, cough about once an hour and get chills now and then and tired so Im sleeping a lot. Other than that I had the flue that has been a lot worse. I can tell my dog has it also.
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Originally Posted by Glowgeek
Awesome Todd. I have a half dozen or so large format plans I'd love to have scanned and reprinted.
Looks like it has a 36" scan width, but a 44" print width. If they are 36" or less than I could do that. Ink replacement is $240 for the 6 colors, though for the most part I just plan to use black. I would need to make sure that it is set to use the black carts instead of a color blend which is a waste of ink. Looking up paper costs too, it can use up to a 300' roll, too bad I found 500' 2 roll bundle for $74. I mainly want the scanner for importing directly into Lightburn, and a scanner alone costs more than what I can buy the Multifunction one for.
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So with that machine you could scan in 36" full size plans, scale them up 22% and reprint 44" full size plans? That's pretty sweet.

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