I have Jr g 5000t in a Raptor V2. What i have to do for put a diferent comand to the right and left ?The ATV must be at 150% for the both sides.

I'm not sure I understand the question... You want a different command for right and left? Does that mean that you want to reverse the channel?

Still not sure I understand... In the mean time, here is [link=http://www.rchelis.com/manuals/JRPG5000Tman.pdf]a link to the instructions[/link].

Also, you can [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/G5000T_Question/m_1684391/tm.htm]check out this thread[/link] for more discussion on the G5000T.

-Mark

It's like that,,but not reverse,,,the manual of the gyro say's that i must put 150% in ATV to the both sides,,,for example : for r/c planes i use ATV to limit the comand , if I want to put a diferent comand to right or left I can use ATV ,so how can I do this with the gyro??On the amplifier of the gyro have the ajust, but I just found the same ajust to the right and left,,,,I would like to put more comand to the right than left for example,,,,sorry for my English!I'm from Brazil!

Hi marked23,
I'm Zanasi's Friend, and I just talked with him by the phone. I will try to explain what he is trying to say. I don't understand about heli, I will just try to translate what he is trying to say.
He told me that his heli turns(Spins in itself using the tail blade) more to the left than to the right. And normaly (RC Airplane) you can configure this in the radio. But because the servo in the tail is connected to the gyro you can't. So you have to configure in the gyro amplifier.
And that is Zanasi's Question:
How to configure that, so he can equal the turning ability in the gyro amplifier?

Thanks

Unfortunately, I don't have a G5000t. With my gyro, I had to mechanically adjust the servo arm and the length of the linkage until it gave me the appropriate throw in either direction. There was one pot to set how far the throw moved.

There are two pots (tiny screwdriver controls) on the G5000t that control the endpoints. JR has unusual instructions for how to set them. It is important to understand that the servo travel is set in the Heading Hold off mode. and that there should be more travel to the right (nose to the right) than to the left. This is because the torque of the main rotor is always happy to help the heli turn left.

-Mark

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From the JR G5000t instructions:

English:
Locate the tail lock switch on the G5000T amplifier, and move the switch to
the OFF position. This will allow for proper servo end point travel adjustment. Reset the switch to the desired position once the endpoint limiter has been adjusted.

With your radio system on, give a full right rudder command. Using a small
straight screwdriver, adjust the servo travel limiter while noticing the rudder servo.

Adjust the potentiometer until the servo has maximum available travel but no binding occurs.

Give a full left rudder command and adjust the limiter as needed to the point just before the servo binds. This sets the maximum available travel and eliminates linkage binding / over-stroking while the helicopter is on the ground.

Note: You will notice that with the travel limiters adjusted, it appears that the rudder stick only works the servo throughout half its stroke. This is normal! During flight, the gyro provides feedback to the servo that combines information about its rotation rate and the gain setting that gives proportional rotation rates throughout the rudder’s stick travel.

Portuguese: (My Portuguese is worse than your English)... Translated by google.
Encontre o interruptor de fechamento da cauda no amplificador de G5000T, e mova o interruptor para o POSIÇÃO DE REPOUSO. Isto permitirá o ajuste servo apropriado do curso do ponto de extremidade. Restaure o interruptor Ã* posição desejada uma vez que o limitador do endpoint foi ajustado. Com seu sistema de rádio sobre, dê um comando direito cheio do leme. Usando uma chave de fenda reta pequena, ajuste o limitador servo do curso ao observar o servo do leme. Ajuste o potenciômetro até que o servo tenha o curso disponÃ*vel do máximo mas nenhum emperramento ocorre. Dê um comando esquerdo cheio do leme e ajuste o limitador como needed o ponto imediatamente antes dos ligamentos servo. Isto ajusta o curso disponÃ*vel máximo e elimina o emperramento do enlace/sobre-afagar quando o helicóptero estiver na terra.

Nota: Você observará aquele com os limitadores do curso ajustados, ele parece que a vara do leme trabalha somente o servo durante todo a metade do seu curso. Isto é normal! Durante o vôo, o giroscópio fornece o gabarito ao servo que combina a informação sobre sua taxa da rotação e o ajuste do ganho que dá taxas proporcionais da rotação durante todo o curso da vara do leme.

Hi, Zanasi went at my house and he brought his helicopter so I can help him out.
We followed the instructions in the manual but we couldn't ajust the travel limit as we wanted.
Fist, Our problem is that the travel to the right is less than the travel to the left. So the heli is very slowturn to the right because as you said the torque of the main rotor is always happy to help the heli turn left.

I will write the instructions and feedback what we did:

We did.

We didn't understand that part. Reset what Switch? We tought it could be the tail lock switch, so we did as if it is.

Ok, We did that, but here comes the problem. Fist he set the max value of the right rudder command, it's works perfectly, but when we give left rudder binding occurs. So we set the left rudder so no binding occurs, but when we do that, the right max value come back to the old value. This happends because there is only one pot to set the max value of the right and left rudders, and it's seems that it is linked.

That's the problem!

Yes , I think that is right.


I think you are supposed to set the pot WHILE you are holding the stick over to the side... I can't be totally sure. I'm just trying to read the instructions and help interpret them.

There is also a part of the instructions that mentions setting the piroet rate:
Lift the model into a stationary hover. If you are comfortable, perform a full stick pirouette to the left, and then to the right while noting the speed in which the model rotates. If the model rotates more quickly in one direction that the other, adjust the travel adjust down on the fast side and retest. When completed, the model should pirouette at an equal rate in both directions.

Also, try adjusting the linkage mechanically, you might be able to "center" the throws so that you get a better balance between right and left.

-Mark

Hi Mark,,,
This is the image,,,can you see,, the travel limit is 4.5mm to left and 10mm to right,,,and the center is about 4.5mm,,,,so travel limit is more to right than left,,,,I think that we can't ajust mechanicly the travel didn't????

That looks normal.

On the Raptor, when the slider moves to the 4.5mm side (left, port), the nose turns to the left. When the slider moves to the 10mm side (right, starboard), the nose turns to the right. Since the torque of the engine acting on the main rotor is trying to turn the nose to the left all the time anyway, you don't need as much left as you do right. You need more right than you do left to have a balance. This setup looks totally normal.

Just be sure that there is no binding in HH or rate mode while you are on the ground and then carefully fly it. Presuming the gyro is mostly configured correctly, it will do the right thing once you are in the air.

-Mark

Dear Mark,

How the Heli is going to stay if I put the comand in center of spindle in HH???It work's??Did you understand me?For example: 4.5mm + 10 mm = 14.5mm / 2 = 7.25 mm = center.

-Mark

I don't know the measurments, but when I built my raptor, I had what sounds like a similar problem. I did not fly it yet, but I did seem to have an unenev travel on the tail pitch. turned out I had mounted the tail drive gear backwards on the tail shaft. there is a pin that holds this gear on and I had the pully on the wrong side of the pin. not sure if this will help or not, but good luck.

Bob

It's not the same thing,but thank's anyway,,,This hapened with my Raptor like yours,,,My new problem is with travel ajust,,,I had an ICG 540 and was so easy to program and g5000t is so confused,,,