Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
08-04-2009 | 03:05 PM
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G
Haven't checked yet, but I think just infront of where you are. It needed a small amount of down inverted. It climbs in KE with very little rudder.
I'll look through the shots at the inverted ones and see how much
Right, had a look and it looks like around 1/8 (3mm down) inverted. Dw
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Haven't checked yet, but I think just infront of where you are. It needed a small amount of down inverted. It climbs in KE with very little rudder.
I'll look through the shots at the inverted ones and see how much
Right, had a look and it looks like around 1/8 (3mm down) inverted. Dw
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08-09-2009 | 11:23 AM
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Andy
Do you mean the full size or Composite ARF's model?
Full size there are some shots I found by Googling BAE Hawk
Dave W
Do you mean the full size or Composite ARF's model?
Full size there are some shots I found by Googling BAE Hawk
Dave W
08-09-2009 | 04:28 PM
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Andy,
Its based on Hawk xx238 from about 1987. Do a google search on hawk xx238 and you will find some photos...for example look at this
http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Ai...awk/1403288/M/
Geoff.
Its based on Hawk xx238 from about 1987. Do a google search on hawk xx238 and you will find some photos...for example look at this
http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Ai...awk/1403288/M/
Geoff.
08-11-2009 | 08:54 AM
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Another Black 90th Hawk arrived today for Trevor Skedge, with the first nearing flight we should be seeing a few Hawk's airbourne in the UK
Dw
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08-11-2009 | 04:01 PM
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RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
ORIGINAL: Dave Wilshere
we should be seeing a few Hawk's airbourne in the UK
Dw
we should be seeing a few Hawk's airbourne in the UK
Dw
That will be a nice change then!!!!!!!!! [sm=lol.gif]
Simon.
08-24-2009 | 08:17 PM
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RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
ORIGINAL: Dave Wilshere
It's been a long time coming, but boy was it worth it.
I finally test flew the Hawk today at Chalgrove, 9 flights were completed, the first four with me and five friends then stole a flight each, as I knew some people would question my word. The first two flights had me adjust expo, In truth it was very close on the first flight allowing me to run through the book of manoeuvres on the first tank. Further flights proved what a wonderful aeroplane this is-fast and slooooowww. Take off with a P120SX is anything from 30-50m you choose! This is the perfect turbine for this aeroplane, plenty of vertical and 10-12 minute flights with the CARF tank.
My C of G is 195mm back from the break line, this suits most of the people who flew in today. Hopefully some of them will jump in, but Steve Elias had some very good things to say about it...Geoff.
Trevor Skedge, Rob Westwater, Luke Barnett and Colin Gontier all had a flight each...super easy to fly aeroplane. No couple in knife edge, my set up needed 3% down on full flap, no other mixes needed.
Walking pace landings make this a great grass field model, I don't expect to need more than 60m of grass with a breeze like today.
Dave Wilshere
It's been a long time coming, but boy was it worth it.
I finally test flew the Hawk today at Chalgrove, 9 flights were completed, the first four with me and five friends then stole a flight each, as I knew some people would question my word. The first two flights had me adjust expo, In truth it was very close on the first flight allowing me to run through the book of manoeuvres on the first tank. Further flights proved what a wonderful aeroplane this is-fast and slooooowww. Take off with a P120SX is anything from 30-50m you choose! This is the perfect turbine for this aeroplane, plenty of vertical and 10-12 minute flights with the CARF tank.
My C of G is 195mm back from the break line, this suits most of the people who flew in today. Hopefully some of them will jump in, but Steve Elias had some very good things to say about it...Geoff.
Trevor Skedge, Rob Westwater, Luke Barnett and Colin Gontier all had a flight each...super easy to fly aeroplane. No couple in knife edge, my set up needed 3% down on full flap, no other mixes needed.
Walking pace landings make this a great grass field model, I don't expect to need more than 60m of grass with a breeze like today.
Dave Wilshere
Dave,
I just watch the video. Nice flying.
Tomorrow maiden my with twin TJ100.
08-25-2009 | 01:48 AM
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Tam
Good luck.
The Hawk gets better every time I fly it, couple of changes on my aeroplane to the C of G and thrust line, I'll post when I have a definitive set-up.
Pixs from one of my flights at RAF Scampton this last weekend.
Dave Wilshere
Good luck.
The Hawk gets better every time I fly it, couple of changes on my aeroplane to the C of G and thrust line, I'll post when I have a definitive set-up.
Pixs from one of my flights at RAF Scampton this last weekend.
Dave Wilshere
08-25-2009 | 03:05 AM
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RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
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Don't know what I did there, pixs are massive! You might need to scrol right to see them!
Dave
Don't know what I did there, pixs are massive! You might need to scrol right to see them!
Dave
I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow.
08-25-2009 | 01:20 PM
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RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
Maiden flight was success. We all take turn flying. I was amaze how well it fly barely use any power.
CARF'S done this one really nice.
I'll start a thread later with all the works photos and videos.
CARF'S done this one really nice.
I'll start a thread later with all the works photos and videos.
08-26-2009 | 01:24 AM
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Tam
It does not surprise me that little power is required, I think the Hawk would fly well on a P80SE! With the P120Sx I'm using I only need full power for big vertical elements, normal cruise is around 2/3 throttle
Dave
It does not surprise me that little power is required, I think the Hawk would fly well on a P80SE! With the P120Sx I'm using I only need full power for big vertical elements, normal cruise is around 2/3 throttle
Dave
08-26-2009 | 01:56 AM
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Tam
It does not surprise me that little power is required, I think the Hawk would fly well on a P80SE! With the P120Sx I'm using I only need full power for big vertical elements, normal cruise is around 2/3 throttle
Dave
Tam
It does not surprise me that little power is required, I think the Hawk would fly well on a P80SE! With the P120Sx I'm using I only need full power for big vertical elements, normal cruise is around 2/3 throttle
Dave
Dave,
I love this Hawk. It felt like flying a big ***** cat.
Here is two videos.
I'll start another thread CARF'S HAWK EDF conversion with a lot of detail photos how I did my.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLB9_BsbrPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EOtq-E7HYw
08-26-2009 | 03:40 AM
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Tam
Very clever! Nice conversion!
Regards
Dave
Tam
Very clever! Nice conversion!
Regards
Dave
When Andreas was here for CA-Jets and ship me this Hawk bring to CA-Jets. I had my eye on it start measure the intake. We talk about do the EDF conversion for this big plane. Had the kit back in my shop and scracth my head ( that how I get ball head) how to fit two fan in this Hawk.
Since I do a lot of bifurcated exhaust system. I told myself why not use the idea apply to this project. But in the reverse ducting system.
After today flight. I was so relief it works awesome.
F
08-26-2009 | 04:03 AM
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RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
Tam
Very interesting project, looked to fly very nicely. Do you think that there will be any significant power loss caused by the turbulence at the convergance point in the bifurcated duct. Have you done a thrust test with a single fan running, then both to see if the thrust on two is double the single?
Best regards
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Very interesting project, looked to fly very nicely. Do you think that there will be any significant power loss caused by the turbulence at the convergance point in the bifurcated duct. Have you done a thrust test with a single fan running, then both to see if the thrust on two is double the single?
Best regards
John
08-26-2009 | 10:20 AM
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RE: Comp ARF BAE Hawk build thread
Very impressive Tam, and for me to say that about a dust buster is really something. You need to put the wing fences on to improve slow speed stall handling.
Regards Al
Regards Al
