how fast does this thing go is it a good truck.

To me it's the best nitro MT. It runs right at 40mph. It's very fast, big and durable.

could it beat a revo in a race.

the lst would beat a revo in a race. my freind has a revo and he has hade problems with his engine and suspenstion and every inch has had to be replace or upgraded. but i have had my problems witch was my throttle servo breaking. and my hobbie shop replaced it free

a Drag race... it would be close... I think I've heard that the LST pulls the Revo at second gear (stock, and I don't know how well it was tuned), but they both top out about the same speed. Track racing... depends on the driver.... people have won races with the LST... people have won races with the Revo... depends on driver experience. As far as quality and durability... I have replaced minimal parts on my Revo. I have spent LESS than $30 in the 8 months that I've owned mine on repairs... of course, I've upgraded, so that's not included in the price, but those things that I've upgraded due to breakage is. The 2.5r is a good motor... somewhat of a pain to tune, but once you get it tuned... it's a great motor.

About your friend... either he sucks at driving, or he just got one-in-a-million that aren't as good (maybe it was made on a Friday afternoon...) I've had 2... sold one a few months ago... and when I sold it ... it was PERFECT... I had NEVER broken a part on it... it tuned up EXCELLENT.

You should really stick your 2.5r in your Revo for our race next weekend. I'm running a the stock engine in my LST and have raced at least 2 dozen different Revo's. I was at a track in Houston with two heats of Revo's (I was the only LST) and I was running a gear set that lowered my topend and I could still pull away from Revo's with no problems in the straights. They may claim a extra mph on top but if I'm at top speed in 10yards or so and they are just getting ready to hit second then it's just too late for them. This is my direct experience from racing Revo's. A lot of it depends on the track and the Revo driver but out of 2 dozen or so that I have been in races with I know some of the guys are clearly better drivers than me. The Revo is a great little truck and seems very durable but I can't wait for you to see what a LST is like in person.

I've already seen what an LST is like in person... I just have not run against one with my Revo. I'd rather not go through the pain of putting my old 2.5r back in... actually, I was getting bored the other night, and pulled it apart and noticed that my sleeve was a bit scored (my guess is when I changed the glowplug... I accidentally dropped some dirt in there... mistakes of a newbie) To be honest, I don't care whether I win or lose. I realize that I opened my big mouth when I shouldn't have... and you called me on it... I'm not a racer by any means... never have been, never will be... but I will race you... because I am a man of my word. Unfortunately, in a track race, it will come down to driver skill... and since you've been a bit more practiced at racing than I have... you will have the upper hand. Honestly, the bigger engine in my truck will hurt me on the track... it has too much low-end power for the track and my tire combo... which makes it so that I really have to be careful with my throttle finger, or else I slide all over. Technically, I'd probably be a better racer if I had the 2.5r... because I wouldn't have to play with the throttle as much... Practicing... I ran down an OS .18tz powered Revo on the straight... it's got tons of power... and it's fast, but on the track, unless it's wet... I have a hard time with it... 'cause it starts sliding if I get anywhere NEAR 3/4 throttle... with the old layout I was 1/4 to 1/2 throttle the whole way... haven't had a chance to hit the track since they've changed it... guess I better hit it this week sometime...

So I guess with the 2.5r, dffs, a-arms, spurs, and motor mounts you pretty much hit your $30 you keep mentioning?? just messing with you. Is the Revo your first monster truck??

Yes.. it is my first monster truck however I have experienced other trucks... namely a Mammoth, T-Maxx, Mini-T, RC18t, and a Stampede. My experiences with the LST and Savage 25 were only from watching... not driving them... I studied long and hard for 2 months figuring out which truck to buy. I wasn't concerned with price... just wanted the best truck I could find. At the time my friend had a Mammoth... and I knew I didn't want that. I was looking at an X-factor and ALMOST bought one until I went to my LHS and they had a Revo sitting on the counter. I was sold from there... I did my online research... watched this forum (the Traxxas Subforum) for a few weeks... and went and bought 2 of them (one for me.. one for wife) Wife's only got about 1/2 gallon before she got pregnant (of course 1/4 of that was from me and my friends)... and can't stand the smell of burning nitro... so, I sold it... now that you have my complete story... here's the break-down (taken from my website)


Shock rod ends & shaft(2) - $1
Spur Gear (2) - $6
Front A-arm set (2) 1 free replacement ... one $6 from online source
Rear A-arm set (1) - $6 from online source
Reverse gear (optidrive sensor gear) Just took it out... - $0
Bent a turnbuckle (bent it back) - $0
PRO-1 rocker arm - Switched to LT's.. Free mod - $0
Rear Differential - Replaced by Traxxas - $0
EZ-Start case (landed upside down from 10 ft. high on asphalt) - $10

Now, let's do the math... 1+6+6+6+10= $29 ... which is UNDER $30

Everything else was an upgrade... and did not need to be replaced, I just did it for fun... (2.5r was still running... and pretty well, I might add... even with the scored sleeve) Motor mount came with the new engine... P2's were an upgrade from the LT's... Wheels and tires and body are getting ready to be replaced after almost 3 gallons of use... and hard bashing to boot...

Well you know that most people would count the $$ for broken parts replaced by Traxxes and broken parts that you just removed, I mean come on. Anyone knows that a 2.5r tuned for anytype of performanc only last 2~3 gallons. I should know I have had three of them. Out of the three one of them actually ran pretty consistent.

Ok, I never said that I had $30 worth of parts replaced..
just that I've spent less than $30 on repairs, which is the truth... I consider FREE things... FREE. I did not replace the reverse gear, I took it out... and I'm not talking about the Forward-only conversion, either... I literally TOOK IT OUT.. and it ran fine... just didn't do reverse... The things from Traxxas were Warranty items and I paid NOTHING for them. When you take a car in for warranty work, do you consider the money you MIGHT have spent on the repair as money YOU have spent on repairing the car? I don't know about you, but I don't... as a matter of fact, any time I've had my full scale car in for warranty work, they didn't even tell me how much it would have cost. MY 2.5r is still in good running condition... granted I noticed some scoring, but that was due to operator error... Perhaps it would have died in the next gallon, but... actually, since I did have to wait 3 weeks for my backordered engine to get here, I slapped the 2.5r back in... and ran it for another 3 tanks... and it ran GREAT! Say what you want... but my estimations are correct. When you get free parts, they cost $0 to you, right? I am not special... Traxxas didn't just replace my diff for JUST me... so, since it is warrantied, and ANYONE can use the warranty... then it would be free to anyone who had that same problem. Anyone with enough knowledge of moving parts to know that they can just take out the Reverse gear without serious side effects can do the same thing I did... anyone who bent a turnbuckle that has a hammer... can bend it back.... and anyone who purchased a Revo as an RTR has the LT rockers, so they can do the rocker swap too... so, my estimations are true for anyone that is willing to do them.

Well just to waste some more time: when I do the math, including your idea that broken parts that you remove and/or get warrentied don't count it still sum's to $30. On to more constructive endeavors.

hmmm... 6+6= 12.... 12+6= 18 .... 18+1= 19... 19+10 = 29... Did I miss something?