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10-26-2010 | 07:02 AM
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RE: Venus II
Johncoulouris, my Venus II/120 AX took almost three ounces of lead in the tail to get the CG where I liked it despite having two elevator servos in the tail, the battery behind the wing, all movable equipment as far back as possible and the tank at the CG. I'd advise against a heavier engine.
10-26-2010 | 10:28 AM
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That's strange Strat. My Venus with an OS 120AX, 2 elevator and rudder servos in the tail, and the 6.0 volt 2000 mah. battery at the back of the radio area under the wing bolt plate, needed no lead at all to balance. I do have a perry pump on the engine mount. The tank on the CG. I am using an apc 17X6 prop which is lighter than most brands.
10-26-2010 | 04:45 PM
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Interesting, Maynard and Joe. I guess CG location is one of those 'your mileage may vary' kind of things. Mine flew much better with the CG back...rolled nicer, better vertical downlines, landed better.
I used the stock "Power Box" muffler which is pretty heavy. Did you?
At any rate, I'd still advise against a heavier engine.
I used the stock "Power Box" muffler which is pretty heavy. Did you?
At any rate, I'd still advise against a heavier engine.
10-26-2010 | 05:32 PM
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ah, who knows?
I had stock muffler. I had like 3/4oz on the tail to maintain inverted 45 degree up line, tried a full ounce but found it wanting to climb out at the top of a loop. But everyone's different, as is every plane. 3oz is a lot though. i dunno.
i'm glad this thread is still going. the Venus is a really great plane to fly. i was pretty attached to mine. easier conversion to electric and I'd probably still have it.
I had stock muffler. I had like 3/4oz on the tail to maintain inverted 45 degree up line, tried a full ounce but found it wanting to climb out at the top of a loop. But everyone's different, as is every plane. 3oz is a lot though. i dunno.
i'm glad this thread is still going. the Venus is a really great plane to fly. i was pretty attached to mine. easier conversion to electric and I'd probably still have it.
10-26-2010 | 05:39 PM
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I know this is my first post. Ive been around for several years. I just had to speak up. I discovered my Venus II early this summer and have only got a couple of gallons of fuel through it. I wanted a better alternative to the Killer Chaos I was flying and based on the unequivocal recommendations on this forum I decided to give one a try. Needless to say after putting a 120AX (again based on recommendations here) I am just giddy with delight every time I fly it. But always in the back of my mind I'm thinking "If you crash this you cannot replace it" I'm really disappointing that Tower discontinued this ARF. I have no idea why they discontinued it. I wish I knew. Perhaps the suppler in china quit making it. Perhaps it didnt sell up to snuff. Perhaps it was Named wrong from the beginning. Or perhaps they needed to make way on the shelves for the newest Extra, Yak or SU31. I belong to a club and attend another clubs fly-ins. Someone needs to tell Tower there's a whole bunch of people out there tired of Hovering and spinning planes. Someone needs to tell them there's a whole bunch of people out there that want to and enjoy flying a plane that looks and fly's like the real thing. Maybe in the real world of inventory, suppliers, and cost control that's not possible. But I just feel that our hobby is being pointed in a direction that the majority of people don't want. Ten years from now there will be no kits left. Perhaps only one or two brands of Glow motors and except for the very rich we will all be flying electric arfs. Is that what the future holds? I miss Carl Goldberg, I miss super kaos's and sweet and lows, And I already miss my Venus II
Regards Padlock
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10-26-2010 | 06:45 PM
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Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self "You've got to fly this thing more often!" Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
10-26-2010 | 06:50 PM
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ORIGINAL: padlock
I know this is my first post. Ive been around for several years. I just had to speak up. I discovered my Venus II early this summer and have only got a couple of gallons of fuel through it. I wanted a better alternative to the Killer Chaos I was flying and based on the unequivocal recommendations on this forum I decided to give one a try. Needless to say after putting a 120AX (again based on recommendations here) I am just giddy with delight every time I fly it. But always in the back of my mind I'm thinking ''If you crash this you cannot replace it'' I'm really disappointing that Tower discontinued this ARF. I have no idea why they discontinued it. I wish I knew. Perhaps the suppler in china quit making it. Perhaps it didnt sell up to snuff. Perhaps it was Named wrong from the beginning. Or perhaps they needed to make way on the shelves for the newest Extra, Yak or SU31. I belong to a club and attend another clubs fly-ins. Someone needs to tell Tower there's a whole bunch of people out there tired of Hovering and spinning planes. Someone needs to tell them there's a whole bunch of people out there that want to and enjoy flying a plane that looks and fly's like the real thing. Maybe in the real world of inventory, suppliers, and cost control that's not possible. But I just feel that our hobby is being pointed in a direction that the majority of people don't want. Ten years from now there will be no kits left. Perhaps only one or two brands of Glow motors and except for the very rich we will all be flying electric arfs. Is that what the future holds? I miss Carl Goldberg, I miss super kaos's and sweet and lows, And I already miss my Venus II
Regards Padlock
I know this is my first post. Ive been around for several years. I just had to speak up. I discovered my Venus II early this summer and have only got a couple of gallons of fuel through it. I wanted a better alternative to the Killer Chaos I was flying and based on the unequivocal recommendations on this forum I decided to give one a try. Needless to say after putting a 120AX (again based on recommendations here) I am just giddy with delight every time I fly it. But always in the back of my mind I'm thinking ''If you crash this you cannot replace it'' I'm really disappointing that Tower discontinued this ARF. I have no idea why they discontinued it. I wish I knew. Perhaps the suppler in china quit making it. Perhaps it didnt sell up to snuff. Perhaps it was Named wrong from the beginning. Or perhaps they needed to make way on the shelves for the newest Extra, Yak or SU31. I belong to a club and attend another clubs fly-ins. Someone needs to tell Tower there's a whole bunch of people out there tired of Hovering and spinning planes. Someone needs to tell them there's a whole bunch of people out there that want to and enjoy flying a plane that looks and fly's like the real thing. Maybe in the real world of inventory, suppliers, and cost control that's not possible. But I just feel that our hobby is being pointed in a direction that the majority of people don't want. Ten years from now there will be no kits left. Perhaps only one or two brands of Glow motors and except for the very rich we will all be flying electric arfs. Is that what the future holds? I miss Carl Goldberg, I miss super kaos's and sweet and lows, And I already miss my Venus II
Regards Padlock
Tim
10-26-2010 | 07:20 PM
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From: clarence gardens, AUSTRALIA
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Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self ''You've got to fly this thing more often!'' Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self ''You've got to fly this thing more often!'' Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
i remember seeing your venus a while ago maybe in a different thread. i didn't speak up then, but i feel i have to now: that is one of the coolest (re)covering jobs i can recall seeing. great job! the clear inserts are so cool.
i'm also flying a (fairly old now) Venus II w/o.s. 1.20AX; it's a beaut. luckily i also have a BNIB one waiting for the inevitable. if i feel super enthused, i'd love to do a sorta similar scheme to tim's on the new one.
regards, dave
10-26-2010 | 08:20 PM
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Interesting, Maynard and Joe. I guess CG location is one of those 'your mileage may vary' kind of things. Mine flew much better with the CG back...rolled nicer, better vertical downlines, landed better.
I used the stock ''Power Box'' muffler which is pretty heavy. Did you?
At any rate, I'd still advise against a heavier engine.
Interesting, Maynard and Joe. I guess CG location is one of those 'your mileage may vary' kind of things. Mine flew much better with the CG back...rolled nicer, better vertical downlines, landed better.
I used the stock ''Power Box'' muffler which is pretty heavy. Did you?
At any rate, I'd still advise against a heavier engine.
10-26-2010 | 08:38 PM
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tim,
i remember seeing your venus a while ago maybe in a different thread. i didn't speak up then, but i feel i have to now: that is one of the coolest (re)covering jobs i can recall seeing. great job! the clear inserts are so cool.
i'm also flying a (fairly old now) Venus II w/o.s. 1.20AX; it's a beaut. luckily i also have a BNIB one waiting for the inevitable. if i feel super enthused, i'd love to do a sorta similar scheme to tim's on the new one.
regards, dave
ORIGINAL: krproton
Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self ''You've got to fly this thing more often!'' Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self ''You've got to fly this thing more often!'' Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
i remember seeing your venus a while ago maybe in a different thread. i didn't speak up then, but i feel i have to now: that is one of the coolest (re)covering jobs i can recall seeing. great job! the clear inserts are so cool.
i'm also flying a (fairly old now) Venus II w/o.s. 1.20AX; it's a beaut. luckily i also have a BNIB one waiting for the inevitable. if i feel super enthused, i'd love to do a sorta similar scheme to tim's on the new one.
regards, dave
Yea, I think I've posted a few images here-and-there and it's also the plane in my avitar.
I also built up elevators out of balsa sticks to replace the slab elevators. I guess you wouldn't have to mess with that though if going with a 1.20 glow. Good luck on yours and post some images when you're done or in progress.
Tim
10-26-2010 | 10:45 PM
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From: clarence gardens, AUSTRALIA
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Thanks Dave.
Yea, I think I've posted a few images here-and-there and it's also the plane in my avitar.
I also built up elevators out of balsa sticks to replace the slab elevators. I guess you wouldn't have to mess with that though if going with a 1.20 glow.
Tim
Thanks Dave.
Yea, I think I've posted a few images here-and-there and it's also the plane in my avitar.
I also built up elevators out of balsa sticks to replace the slab elevators. I guess you wouldn't have to mess with that though if going with a 1.20 glow.
Tim
10-27-2010 | 08:49 AM
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I have been flying a Venus II in Sportsman this year and have loved it. This is my first year flying Pattern, in 6 contests I have 4 first place finishes and 2 seconds. I think this is the best flying plane I have every owned, and I am saddened to see it discontinued. I was just going to suffer in silence but then I thought why not let Great Planes know how much we like this plane.
This is their [link=http://www.greatplanes.com/suggestion.html]product idea and improvement page[/link] it lets let them know how much we like the Venus II. I personally am going to ask them to reconsider their decision and will pledge to buy the first one available if they do.
Pattern fliers need an inexpensive capable airplane to keep the sport alive, I think the Venus II fits the bill. Please join me in asking Great Planes to keep the Venus in their Product line.
This is their [link=http://www.greatplanes.com/suggestion.html]product idea and improvement page[/link] it lets let them know how much we like the Venus II. I personally am going to ask them to reconsider their decision and will pledge to buy the first one available if they do.
Pattern fliers need an inexpensive capable airplane to keep the sport alive, I think the Venus II fits the bill. Please join me in asking Great Planes to keep the Venus in their Product line.
10-28-2010 | 09:09 AM
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From: Hillcrest, SOUTH AFRICA
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The Venus II is quite the nicest plane I own, so news of it being discontinued was a blow. I have been fortunate enough to acquire the last one in stock at a LHS after hearing the news. I shall nevertheless send my comments to Tower as suggested by Itougas in post 1438.
Can anyone tell me where I can get a muffler for a Saito 125 like the one shown in post 1396 on page 56 of this thread? Also, can anyone explain how it is attached to the engine? I'd like to use a muffler like this on my new Venus when I get around to building it.
Lynton
Can anyone tell me where I can get a muffler for a Saito 125 like the one shown in post 1396 on page 56 of this thread? Also, can anyone explain how it is attached to the engine? I'd like to use a muffler like this on my new Venus when I get around to building it.
Lynton
10-28-2010 | 07:19 PM
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RE: Venus II
I am putting the belly pan on tonight and I epoxied some plywood rings to 2" paper tubes and need to insert those into the belly pan and epoxy with microballoons the pan to the bottom of the wing with these tubes lined up. Is there any trick to lining the tubes up so the wing bolts will find their mark when installing and removing the wing, or any other tips on this part of the assembly? Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
10-28-2010 | 10:15 PM
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Glue in the tubes with the wing bolted to the fuse. With the nylon wing bolts in position the tubes will center around them. If you use epoxy (30-minute) with microballoons the epoxy won't flow/run too much and you SHOULDN'T get enough epoxy on the heads of the bolts to glue them down. Epoxyespecially a small amount of itwon't stick to the wing bolts.
10-28-2010 | 10:49 PM
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Definitely is the worst part of the assembly process - good luck! I had to do it 3x - 2 Venus II's and a Venus .40. Not fun on any of them, even with practice. I did install them with the wings bolted on and it helped.
Epoxy doesn't stick to vaseline
Epoxy doesn't stick to vaseline
10-29-2010 | 07:59 AM
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RE: Venus II
ORIGINAL: krproton
Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self ''You've got to fly this thing more often!'' Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
Hey guys. I just found this thread. I built my Venus II about three or four years ago doing a re cover and converting it to electirc, plus a few other mods while I was at it. I haven't flown it much, but kind of re discovered it this summer. I had it out a while ago and said to my self ''You've got to fly this thing more often!'' Already practicing the 2010 Intermediate (proposed) Pattern sequence. With my 3300 mAh battery I can just squeeze in the sequence if I don't fly it too big. I don't want 5,000mAh batteries (tried it once and could really notice the weight), so I'm thinking about 3,800's or 4,000's. Using 50-65-450kV Ammo, Phoenix 85 ESC, APC 17 x 8 prop.
Also, the color scheme really stands out.... I've not seen anything like it before, nice job!
10-30-2010 | 01:19 PM
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Anyone glass the wing center after joining them?
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