Community
Search
Notices
RC Pattern Flying Discuss all topics pertaining to RC Pattern Flying in this forum.

9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-09-2008 | 02:40 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: London, UNITED KINGDOM
Default 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

Im sure this should be simple to fix...but its avoiding me so far!

I am trying to setup a 'spin' condition but when I flick the condition on, one of the elevator trims is changing.
I am using 2 elevator servos plugged into channels 2&5 (ailvator) I have gone into the trim menu and done the combined/seperate trim setup for the elevator channel but the servo plugged into channel 5 is still moving when I operate the condition.

Any ideas where I am going wrong?

Also I have setup a program mix for throttle to elevator. I have setup 2 program mixes to account for the 2 elevator servos, is there anyway of doing it with just one program mix?

Thanks in advance,
Jason
Old 06-09-2008 | 03:54 PM
  #2  
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,081
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: oakland, CA
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

When you flip a switch, your ATV may change, it happened to my 9ZAP before.

Go to your ele ATV screen and find out whether the value changes when the switch is activated.

Hope this help.

Adrian
Old 06-09-2008 | 04:03 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: London, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

Many thanks Adrian, that is exactly what it was!

Cheers
Jason
Old 06-09-2008 | 04:47 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: , ITALY
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...


ORIGINAL: jaycey

Im sure this should be simple to fix...but its avoiding me so far!

I am trying to setup a 'spin' condition but when I flick the condition on, one of the elevator trims is changing.
I am using 2 elevator servos plugged into channels 2&5 (ailvator) I have gone into the trim menu and done the combined/seperate trim setup for the elevator channel but the servo plugged into channel 5 is still moving when I operate the condition.

Any ideas where I am going wrong?

Also I have setup a program mix for throttle to elevator. I have setup 2 program mixes to account for the 2 elevator servos, is there anyway of doing it with just one program mix?

Thanks in advance,
Jason
Hi, I use only one mix, no need to setup another one. What kind of mix have you turned on for the dual elevators? I use AILEVATOR and only one mix (* -> channel 2) is needed.
Old 06-11-2008 | 03:00 PM
  #5  
AmericanSpectre505's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,238
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Fayetteville, NC
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

I am running several contitions on my 9Z, you should check the sub-trim programming by cycling between your contition switches. If the percentages are different by channel this will affect where your trims are in each condition. Everytime I make an adjust in the sub-trims, I have to adjust the condition as well.

Hope this helps!

Bill Holsten
Dist#2
Old 06-11-2008 | 04:54 PM
  #6  
MHester's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,707
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Woodstock, GA
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

One important note: if the pots become worn on that particular transmitter, it will do exactly what you are describing...and only get worse. And worse.....ask me how I know. 2 days before my first nats ever....LOL

Food for thought. But this is more than likely the source of your problem, I've seen it many times before on that radio....especially the elevator trim.

-Mike
Old 06-12-2008 | 08:34 AM
  #7  
AmericanSpectre505's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,238
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Fayetteville, NC
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

Huuuuummmmmmmmmm,.......did not know that!
I had enough problems at the NATS last year for my first time, don't need any this year,..if I even go. The cost of gas pulling a campers gonn'a hurt the wallet.

Appreciate the info Mike.

Bill Holsten
Dist#2
Old 06-12-2008 | 08:42 AM
  #8  
can773's Avatar
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,286
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
From: Calgary, AB, CANADA
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

For the mix, there should be a LNK button on the bottom of the screen, right hand side I think (been a while since I was into my zap mixing screen!). That will pass the mix to the slave along to further mixed channels, like dual aileron and elevator. If you are not linked you will not get an arrow in the main screen.

In the main mix screen it should appear like this

THR ELE ->

That means you are linked to anything else mixed to the ele channel...which happens to be your other elevator

For the trim, as already stated, make sure ATV's/ sub-trims match across the conditions, also make sure your trims are set to CMB, and do not change when moving conditions.....if a trim is set to SEP it can change with conditions. If all that is good, then Mike is right......your radio needs service


ORIGINAL: jaycey

Im sure this should be simple to fix...but its avoiding me so far!

I am trying to setup a 'spin' condition but when I flick the condition on, one of the elevator trims is changing.
I am using 2 elevator servos plugged into channels 2&5 (ailvator) I have gone into the trim menu and done the combined/seperate trim setup for the elevator channel but the servo plugged into channel 5 is still moving when I operate the condition.

Any ideas where I am going wrong?

Also I have setup a program mix for throttle to elevator. I have setup 2 program mixes to account for the 2 elevator servos, is there anyway of doing it with just one program mix?

Thanks in advance,
Jason
Old 06-12-2008 | 11:29 AM
  #9  
BaldEagel's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,673
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
From: Kent, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

Another heads up on the Zap, I had a glitching problem in PCM mode, that destroyed my Edge, it did not go into fail safe just glitched into the ground, I sent the Tx for a service and was told that the two copper wiper blades inside the ball gimble in the top of the Tx that make the final connection to the antenna had corroded, these are the things you can feel click into place when you pull up the final section of the antenna, dosn't matter now as I have got rid of the antenna.

Mike
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Us54564.jpg
Views:	15
Size:	77.9 KB
ID:	969197  
Old 06-12-2008 | 01:59 PM
  #10  
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: London, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

that destroyed my Edge
Not your composite edge Mike??!!


Thanks for all your replies guys, ile have the plane out tomorrow and try out your sugestions and let you know how I get on.
Old 06-12-2008 | 05:32 PM
  #11  
BaldEagel's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,673
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
From: Kent, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: 9ZAP Condition Trim problems...

No not the Composite a previous H9 Edge.

Mike
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Zw69579.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	152.9 KB
ID:	969315  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.