I HAVE A LANIER EDGE 540T 120 ON THE WAY IN MAIL AND I WAS GOING TO PUT A RCS 180 IN IT.IS THIS A GOOD CHOICE OR SHOULD I GO WITH SOMETHING ELSE??!! I WANT GAS BUT IS THAT A BAD CHOICE.PLEASE HELP!

Good choice. Go for it.
EXCAP232

Sorry,but I have to disagree.I had this same plane with a Brison 2.4,which I think weighs about the same as the RCS,weighing both with muffler,battteryand ignition,And it puts the plane too heavy for good 3D.General aerobatics is awesome,but 3D will suffer.the plane already needs nose weight when set up as per the instructions,but now with gas you have an ign.batt up front,and a reciever battery that shoud be at least 12"from the ign batt.with the ign.batt all the forward,and rx batt on the wing tube is only about 8" between them,which is a little risky,although I never had a problem,but any further back on the rx batt and you will be adding that much more nose weight.The plane was designed and built around a glow engine,and that's what it should have for optimal performance,light flies better period.I know you said you want gas,but trust me,use an OS 1.60,put the batt up front,ele and rudder servos up front,Rudder on pull-pull,and you will enjoy the plane the way it was meant to be.I expect some replies saying I am wrong,and I used to be one of the guys who believed gas was ok on smaller planes,but after much trial and error,I found out I was wrong.There is a thread in this forum titled please explain to me,in it there is some discussion about building light,Dick Hanson has some good comments,and I really think he knows his stuff.Here is a link to his sight where he put a ZDZ 40 ,which is lighter than the RCS and the Brison, on a H-9 Edge,which is larger than the Lanier,and he does not recomend it for good 3Ding.http://www.concentric.net/~Dhmodels/workshop6.htm

I do think it depends on the type of flying you plan to do. I have a Brison 2.4 in a Giles ARF and I have had people who have flown it say it flys rock solid, but it sucks at 3D.

I have flown the Lanier Edge with a OS160 and RCS 1.4. Both engines fly the plane great, but the OS does allow you to do some weird stuff due to the power available.

Definately go with the OS 160 FX if you are looking for great 3D performance. If you are an experienced 3D flier, I would mount the elevator servos in the rear and the rudder servo under the canopy and use pull-pull. Although this will put the CG behind the Lanier recommendation, this is where I have found it to perform best for 3D. Airplane shows no bad tendencies with a more aggressive CG setup.

WHY NOT A F.P.E 2.4 WEIGHT IS LESS THAN OS 3500 AND NOT MUCH MORE THAN OS 160 AND THE POWER IS MUCH MORE AND THATS WITH IGN.

asher,
You now have answers to your post. I HAVE A LANIER EDGE 540T 120 ON THE WAY IN MAIL AND I WAS GOING TO PUT A RCS 180 IN IT.IS THIS A GOOD CHOICE OR SHOULD I GO WITH SOMETHING ELSE??!! I WANT GAS BUT IS THAT A BAD CHOICE.PLEASE HELP!

I have a Giles with the OS 1.60 and a friend has an Edge with the YS 1.40 // I test flew the Edge and have a few flights on the Giles. The Giles has better vertical performance. The Edge owner is considering changing to gas for better vertical. The ZDZ from RC Showcase is being considered in the 40cc range however there is a new 50cc now with little increase in weight or cost now also being considered.

The size is the transition from glow to gas power. There is some overlap and difference of opinions. You won't see gas on a Pizazz or glow in a 40% Extra. I still believe the original choice you asked about is a good one. Would it give unlimited vertical or really do great 3D? Probably not.

The choice is yours to make for the style and type of flying you wish to do.

Best regards to all,
EXCAP232

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND I MAY BE STUPID BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY SAME H POWER AND SAME WEIGHT WHY WOULD THE GAS NOT DO THE 3D AS WELL AS GLOW

You will not be the same weight as the glow engine. You have to take into cosideration the muffler, ignition, battery pack, switch. All these things add up. A pound in these size aircraft makes a difference.

Mines got the O.S. 1.60 and it will do anything u ask it...been a wonderful motor...Wouldn't change a thing...i run a 18x6 Mesjlik carbon fiber prop.....great combo!
wgeffon on here has done some aesome 3D with my plane...it is rock solid!!....and blenders to die for... ....

THE F.P.E 2.4 40CC IS 51OZ WITH IGN. AND MUFF. BUT THE OS BGX-1-3500 35CC IS 49.6 OZ WITHOUT MUFF. BOTH HAVE SAME H.P. SO THAT IS 1.4OZ DIFFERANT.THE FPE WEIGHT IS WITHOUT BATT. AND SWITCH BUT THE OS IS WITHOUT MUFF.HOW DIFFERANT CAN THEY BE COUPLE OF OZS.SORRY I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND??!!

Asher,I don't mean to "beat a dead horse"But remember the battery pack issue I told you about,you must have distance between them,and that means Rx pack behind the cg,which means having to compensate for it up front,also remember this plane comes out tail heavy to start with,although I agree that the cg in the manual is conservative.EXCAP is right the choice is ultimately yours.If you would like to talk, e-mail me and i'll give you my #.
Mike
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A OS 1.60 weighs 32.6 oz big difference there!

O.K. IF I GO WITH 1.60 OS IS THERE SOME SORT OF PIPE THAT I CAN REACH THE NEW DB RATING AND A LITTLE MORE HP LIKE A A CANASTER OR SOMETHING. I DONT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE IM SAYING ANYONE IS WRONG BUT I WANTED A GAS MOTOR TO SAVE ON $ ( FUEL) BUT I DONT WANT TO GIVEUP ANY 3D PERFORMANCE.GUESS I WANTED THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS BUT NOT GONNA GET IT.SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH BIGGER PLANE.TOO LATE!!!

http://www.jettengineering.com/accy/turbo.html

I have the 540 also with a FPE 2.4.

Hitec digitals all around, 1 on the elevator with a MK type bell crank in the rear of the fuse.

So far the plane is rock solid...I have not had much experience with 3D so I can not comment yet, however we did weigh the plane on a digital fish scale and it weighs 12.5 lbs without gas.

Hopefully this helps.

What are the planes weighing with the OS 1.60?

Eric

mine with the OS 1.60 weighs 10.6 pounds

If you follow this line of thinking and follow through with all the accessories and upgrades you may find you have invested what a larger plane would have cost and still have a mid size plane which would have a weight penalty with a gas engine (yes I see the other opinions) or a glow powered plane that costs quite a bit to feed glow fuel. In any case it is a compromise. The plane you ordered is good. What you have gained and helped others with who read this thread is a wealth of information.

Thanks to all,
EXCAP232

THANKS EXCAP232 AND TO ALL OTHERS WHO HAVE REPLIED TO THIS THREAD.STILL DON'T KNOW IF I WILL GO GAS OR GLOW BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I DO AND THE RESULTS FROM MY CHOICE.
WANT GAS BUT WANT 3D ALSO.PLEASE KEEP GIVING OPINIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANYMORE. THANKS TO ALL

Gas engines: allow 1 cubic inch per twelve pounds of plane. ZDZ engine will grossly over power this plane, and require a lot of counter balance. I have flown this plane with a Quadra (way to0 heavy and over powered) and a fair running MDS 1.48. It flew it very well.

I would stay in the 1.6 to 2.1 two stroke range with this one. Sure, you will spend more on fuel, but you have a much easier plane to deal with. A 1.8 Saito would also fly this plane well.

Silversurfer

T28

We're putting the Lanier 120 Edge together for my son. Trying to decide which engine to use like the other's. Gas is the preferred choice.

Would you list how your model is equipped and rigged. That 10.6lbs sounds very light and desirable. Was it tail or nose heavy prior to battery placement?

My OS 1.60 weighs 32ozs. Stock muffler weighs 9.37ozs., engine mounts weighs 4.25ozs. for a total of 45.62ozs.

My 3W24 weighs 53ozs complete with ignition, mount, Pitts exhaust and battery.

I had an FPE 2.4 it weighed 54ozs. complete with stock down tube exhaust deflector, mount, ignition and battery.

RCS states their 1.8 gasser weighs 50ozs. with ignition. Probably 62 ozs. complete with battery, mount and muffler.

MVVS 2.15 gasser weighs 55ozs. Ignition??? Guessing around 65ozs complete.

The FPE or the 3W are reasonable choices for gas, IMO... 9ozs heavier in weight out the gate, less fuel capacity on board, runs cheap day after day, fuel tank on CG. Ends up being a push for weight in IMO...

FPE's 2.4 will swing a 20/10 Bolly at 6800rpm on a good day with the fixed electronic ignition, quoted by the manufacturer. 21.77 lbs. thrust.

3W's 24 will turn a 18/10 Bolly around 7900rpm, quoted by the distributor. 19.28lbs. thrust.

OS's 1.60 will turn a 18/6 Zinger at 8800rpm. 23.01lbs. thrust.

All things considered the Edge with an OS-160 fuel guzzler compared to a like equipped model with a 9oz. heavier gas powered model sounds very attractive.

Ignition and battery location are moot, IMO. The Ignition box and battery can be installed forward on the motor box and the RX and battery located forward, on or behind behind the wing tube dependent on CG requirements.

I'll take pictures.....LOL give me a couple minutes

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