Thanks,

Just got my showtime today, and I'd thought I'd make a couple of comments.

The kit looks fantastic, and well done. The CF gear, believe it or not, looks identical to the Extra 260 gear (other than the height and width). While the Extra gear looks rather flimsy for that size airplane, I think it might be just right for this one. Have you guys had any delamination issues with the gear? I might reinforce it with fiberglass strapping tape just to be on the safe side. The kit itself builds just like the Extra 260 (surprise surprise, same designer) other than CA hinges instead of robart-style, so much so that I bet I can do this without looking at the manual at all .

... Can't wait to get started. So far have you guys found reinforcement issues?

BoneDoc...This is a sweet airplane. I think you'll love it. I literally used all the stock hardware except the wheels (went Dubro super lite 3" for size and weight) and changed the tailwheel for a Mayhem tailwheel. (You may have one of them) It's slightly lighter and samller which lets the tail down a bit. Steers great. I'm using the stock landing gear and it's working with no delamination issues so far. I glued my screw on the ailerons and elevators just like the manual says and so far no problems. My canopy has started to crack. I had to add one washer worth of right hand thrust on the engine to make it more stable in hover. So far everything else is working good. So far.
Thanks
Barry

BoneDoc. I forgot to mention, I mounted my rudder servo with the pull/pull configurattion. It's where mine needed to be to balance. Still have the battery slightly forward of CG.
Thanks
Barry

I notice on my showtime that the pull-pull wires for the rudder will have a lot of slop when the rudder is deflected, but it is tight when neutral. Is this normal with pull-pull setup?

Will have to make up a new servo-horn with the linkage-points out of line with the servo-rotation point to make this disappear. But is it necessary?

Also notice that the rudder has a tendency to oscillate around center. (Futaba S9351 servo).

Regards
Ole André Knutsen

Thanks Barry,

My Saito has been homeless since my fateful Mayhem crash. I think I'll eventually mount my rudder servo in the tail since Saito si heavier, but I'll do that last after checking the cg.

Can't wait to get started

ok.................i can finaly stop *****ing i was able to get a ys 110 i have never owned a ys motor do i have to get a special tank and clunk?prop size? any info will be helpfull

I run 17x4W.. some people like the 16x6 .. its all in personal preference..you will get a pound more thrust with the 16x6 but your airspeed will go up at full throttle,that is why my choice is 17x4W. as for the tank. i would use a dubro. or better yet a seamless tank.. i have had H9 tanks to rupture from the pressure the YS produce...

I'm thoroughly disgusted with myself. There is only two areas of the assembly manual I need to read when I build a plane, you'd think I could handle that. One is the balance point, for obvious reasons. The other is the distance from the firewall to the prop hub when mounting the engine. Guess what? Couldn't get that one right on this plane. I read once, measured twice, & promptly mounted the engine 1/2 inch to close to the firewall. [&o] I got so disgusted I quit for the night. Curious though. For those of you who are using a Saito 1.00 in the Showtime. Did your mounting holes come dangerously close to the end of the mount? Once I move the engine it is going to be very close If I use the stock mount. That and fitting the cowl is all I have left to do on this rascal.

thanx ill go 17x4 and seamless tank

cstevec...You and I must use the same tape measure. I did the same thing. Mad!!! Anyways the 110 is about the same size as the Saito. My engine flange is almost flush with the end of the engine mount. The hole is 1/4" or so back. Kinda of a weird mounting thing or something. I didn't even notice until I mounted the cowl and the prop hub on the engine didn't stick out. I thought the manual was wrong but when I measured again the engine was a little bit too far back.

Thanks
Barry

cstevec...Mounted my Saito 91. Yes, it seemed very close to the end. Engine tabs were about flush with mount. After installing the cowl I could have moved it back about 3/16. Mount the cowl first and get an accurate measurment and go from there...Good Luck!

Yep, mine was flush to the end of the mount too.

Well, what are ya goin to do? I could use a different mount, but that would just add weight so I guess not

people who have flown this plane, is it more stable than say a Funtana 90??? Thanks

I mgiht be putting a Saito 180 on this beast!!!

I'm toying the idea of a saito 180 or a MVVS 1.6 gasser. There isn't much of a weight difference between them.




Neo

cstevec. Just use the stock mount. That's what I did and it seems to be holding up fine. Even with 4 holes in it. I think it's gonna be fine.

fasterthanlife. I had a F90. It's the one plane that I really hated. The Showtime is lightyears better than the F90. If you are comparing the two, the ST will fly much more stabily, KE way better, and flat spin better just to name a few things. I think the ST is more stable in the harrier as well but I can't do them the best anyways. But the best part of the ST is it actually weighs what they say it will and you can land it. The F90 is weak everywhere and is the hardest landing plane made.
Thanks
Barry

Thanks Barry,thats what I'm gonna do.

Dont'cha go knocking my favorite 3D plane now. I have 2 Funtana 90's & a Funtana 40 size. They are a couple of my favorite planes. They fly like a big plane though so if you are used to funflys like a U can do then they take a bit of getting used to. If you start flying 30-35% planes a Funtana is an excellent practice plane.

Is my info wrong?

SA180 -- 33.5oz with muffler

MVVS 1.6 --37oz with ingnition + 3oz battery + 6oz for muffler = 47oz

So if my info is correct the 1.6 is almost 1 pound more.

You could get by with a smaller fuel tank though. How much smaller?
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BTW, I just seen KYLE fly last weekend at an IMAC event and he had stripped his F90 and put all his gear in a Showtime.
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Also, it does appear that a 4.8V (4 cell) battery will last about 5% to 8% longer than a 6.0V(5cell) battery--this does not seem significant to me as it is also holding the servo arm closer to the desired position.
It looks like the disadvantages are the cost and weight of the extra cell. For instance a 6.0v 1800mah pack could weigh 5oz (1oz per cell) or you could go with a 2500mah 4 cell 4.8v (1.35oz) that weighs 5.4oz and get a significantly longer duration with very close weight.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3225490/tm.htm

You could possible shave off more weight by running smaller packs....like a need a 2400mah lithium in it.........and possible try a LIPO. It is an alternative.



Neo

STG... Been following the battery info... I was told the same thing about
the 4.8 lasting longer.. Which at the time did not make sense to me but
I just excepted it:-(... But now I have a better understanding of it... That
said.. I'll be using a 6v and just deal with the usable time.. Right now the
biggest thing for me is max speed and torque... Well that's when ever I
get the S.T. out of the box
Started looking into Lipo's but maybe next time....

Guys,

Kyle's showtime is currently down because of Tx issue. He really flies with "The Force" , lol, because he lost all radio control on one of them while doing an inverted spin and the plane came down safely, lol. FWIW there's a thread about showtime on flyingcirkus.com also.

He posted his video of the ST on its 11th flight at flyingcirkus.com also and it's a wicked one.

cstevec...I stand by what I said about the F90. If this is your favorite plane than you are gonna be excited about the Showtime. And as far UCD, I'd have 10 of those, in fact I've had 6, before I'd take another F90. And I hated my F90 so bad I couldn't even crash it. Literally gave it away to a club member. Anyways, haven't flown a 30-35% but if they fly like the Funtana I don't want to.
Thanks
Bary

Guys,

For you Showtime owners who are not members of the Flying Circus web site and forum, I think you must become asap!!

Enjoy this incredible video by Kyle Woyshnis, I think H9 could use this video for advertising their product. SIMPLY AWESOME!!!

http://www.flyingcirkus.com/forum/Showtime_Video(Kyle)/m_76415/tm.htm

After seeing this video you will realise the real benefit of the SFGs and the pattern foamy story that M.McConville was talking about.

Sit back and enjoy!!

Nik

Maidened my showtime with electric setup today. Success!!!

It was somewhat gusty today so I did not got the opportunity to really feel how good it flys, but the impression I got so far is that it flies extremely well. Very smooth and precise. At the suggested low rates the roll was fast, but on high-rates the roll-rate is unbelievable. Maybe 5 rolls in a second or so (did not count). I only got time to one flight but I am looking forward to more flights with this bird. And to try the SFG's.

Motor/radio-setup:

Actro 40-5 motor
Actronic 70-32 regulator
UBEC HV 5V
Thunder Power 10s 2p 4000mAh Pro Lite
APCe 18x8
Motor current-draw: 52A
Aileron servos: Futaba S9451
Elevator-servos: Futaba S9252
Rudder-servo: Futaba S9351
R5014DPS
14MZ