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Old 12-14-2002 | 02:36 AM
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Well just got the decks done. What a pain. It wouldnt be too bad if i did it like the book but you know me. hehe. Cant leave nothing stock. Heres some pics.
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Old 12-14-2002 | 02:37 AM
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heres one more.
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Old 12-14-2002 | 04:41 AM
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Looking good. If you think the decks were tough here you should build the MW Extra and attempt the forward deck. Man that is a pain. Even with windex sprayed all over the sheeting it is nearly impossible to get the ply to curve around a 5/16 radius and look good.
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well the kit use's stringers and balsa sheeting. well somhow i manged to sheet it with 1/16 instead of 3/32 and didnt use the stringers. If i used the stringers it would have been a no brainer. Its just a little harder to get the seams right thats all.

Ply for the deck?? that must be a big plane.
Old 12-16-2002 | 05:29 PM
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27%. 1/32 ply is nice because it doesn't dent like Balsa does. Also rigid enough to not need stringers on the rear deck and still be very strong. Important when running a 52cc gasser.
Old 12-21-2002 | 03:49 AM
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I have an EXTRA 300S 0.40 from GP. I love it but it is real heavy at 7 lbs. Power comes from an OS 0.61 SF-Pump which powers it nicely.

Blenders are awesome and torque rolls are easy when you get used to. The high weight prevents me from doing harriers and all that stuff. Il will sorta waterfall but my extra is built stock and defenitely would benefit larger tail surfaces.

I use all the throw I can get from the rudder, the same applies for elevator but plan on having more down elevator throw than up elevator.

Seeing the pics posted here, it gets me into the idea of covering my airplane with monocote instead of solartex fabric which with all the paint adds at the very least 1/2 lbs. Maybe some dremel work as you did for an extra 1/2 lbs.

Keep us informed. I wish I could see your first flight.
Old 12-21-2002 | 11:24 PM
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To be honest I think this thing is gonna rock!!! The plane doent feel that bad right now. Its still a little heavyer than my 5lbs sig se but i still have some carving to do. Its starting to look like a 5.25 to 5.5 lbs done but hard to tell. I was hoping for 5lbs right on the nose. hehe.

A friend has a dig cam. May be i can get him to shoot some flights. The first flight wouldnt be that much to watch. But once i dial it in I can let it rip.
Old 12-22-2002 | 02:53 AM
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It IS gonna rock. I see limits at 7 pounds and I would be happy at 6 pounds. You will be in the heavens at 5.25 pounds !!

Seems like you will have all the control authority you will ever need and the power needed to do what you want to. If I were you, though, I would consider trying a 0.61 because of the very little added weight.

I have found that this airplane torque rolls rather fast but still controllable. The point is that when the airplane is in the exact ideal position, it starts to roll real fast and becomes uncontrollable (about two revolutions per second).

I wish I could still be in the constructing process so I can lighten her a bit...
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I built a .40 cap 232 and i put a 61fx in it. I think it would have been better with the 46. The tork roll was too fast and it was a little too hard to hold in a hover. Besides.....Im trying to take wieght out of it not put it in. Ive seen 50sx hover 6lb sig se so i dont think power is gonna be an issue. I just hope i can get the cg back far enough without it getting wierd. You know for 3D.
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heres a little better shot of the tail on it.
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Old 12-22-2002 | 03:40 AM
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Sorry about the pics being fuzzy it just a web cam.
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This is my latest project. It is the GP Extra 300 (60 size). I am powering it with and OS 120. My goal is not a 3D machine but a nice IMAC type aircraft. I am hoping that by going with the OS 1.20 I will get truly unlimited performance. I built it mostly stock other that increased sizes of the Elevator halves and Rudder. This is a picture before I Covered the tail. If I have time tommorow I will take a new picture of the plane with the tail covered and the cowl mounted.

Good Luck with your plane, looks great.

Phil (Mesa, AZ)

By the way, I have the GP Cap 232 and if you are looking for a great flying plane that builds very light you should look into that model. Mine is 5.5 WET with an OS 70 up front and stock servo locations with NO Lead.

Oh yea, before you ask about the Maple leaves here is the reason they are on the plane. http://www.fightercombat.com/airshow/Photos.htm I saw them at an airshow and liked there planes and flying style. Plane presents well in the air.
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Just thought you might like to see mine before covering.

Phil (Mesa, AZ)


My Avitar is of my GP Cap.
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Start with 4 inches as in the manual and go back SLOWLY; mine is set within 1/2 in back of the starting 4 in. If the CG is too far back, the aircraft will be real fun to fly but when will come the landing, you will also have fun not over controlling elevator because it will balloon very much.

When I was trying to find the CG I wanted, my battery pack was not held firmly in the fuse and came loose ---> it came all the way back to the end of the wire. I had a blast during this flight but I almost crashed the plane during landing because the plane was not just ballooning, it was snapping as soon as I touched the elevator (my elevator is real small compared to yours so be careful).

In short, get the CG as far back as your piloting skills allow you to land your plane safely.
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Have you enlarged your ailerons, they seem much larger than those on the 40 size version.
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No, those are the stock size to the 60 Size Kit. They are built up and are a lot bigger that the 40 size ones on my Cap. Was fun making them and they are really light.
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Come on guys! Bite the bullet and let's get into the big boy toys!!

I a past issue of Model Airplane News there was an article about how the big boys are able to do 3D so well.

The big models make 3D look easy because it is easier with big models (35% and up).

Remember, if it's at all breezy, the small models will get blown around.

The other tip these pilots had was one word PRACTICE!!!!

Get on your simulator and get to the field every chance you get.

Here is a photo of my flying buddy Francis Garcia flying at our local field yesterday. He is flying a 1/3 scale Hanger 9 Cap with a DA100. This guy makes it look easy!

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lol
crash-burn i could'nt agree with you more
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sundevilpilot....I forgot some cut outs. I think im done cuting the fuse....finally. Not much left to cut. hehehe. Heres some pics of the cut outs.
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and one more.
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CrashandBurn.....Ya big planes do fly better. But.....the small ones are cheaper and simpler. Not to menchine, if you can do the 3D and stuff with a small one and make it look pretty, imagine what it would look like when you get a big one! I have seen guys fling the big ones and you can tell they learned how to do it on the big ones. Kinda sloppy and rough.

I flew a buddys h9 540 and did a perfect hands off tork roll 3 min in the flight. A little too easy if you ask me.

Dont get me wrong, Theres nothing wrong with the big ones. And when i have the room and other stuff to supprt it i will have one. But till then....The small ones still have the charm to hold my intrest.
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I'm building the 60 size. Putting a Saito .91 on it.

Pic a week or so ago, it's getting covered at the moment.
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Old 12-23-2002 | 05:09 PM
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Plane looks great!!!! You gonna post some pics when its coverd?????
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oh yeah
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Did a little more work today. This thing is really gonna be light. I compare the fuse of the 300 to the fuse of my sig se. The se is 5lbs ready to go. The fuse on the 300 felt a lot heavyer then the se. It should, its made of ply and its twice as big. Well after i cut the nose and the cockpit out it feels real close. Well heres the bottom. This was the project for today.
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