I'm with Bubba, as long as you don't want to know about Brillelli engines, never had one. I'm good with the stuff about the plane though.

But Al, I maybe see one in your future.[sm=teeth_smile.gif]

Thanks for the link buba. And which wheels do you recommend?

The ones that come with the plane are fine

Not mine!! I have a nice brand new BCMA MT-52 Pro on the way for my new WH Edge 540T. I don't like gas engines that sit on rail mounts. I think the stand-offs are much better. I've seen large glo-engines break metal rail mounts in half. Vibration is much worse with gas.

Hey Bubba!! You ever used the Sullivan SkyLite wheels?? I'm thinking of getting a pair for this edge.

I've used them and they are fine. I just don't have them on anything I currently own. I use Kavan wheels on most everything now except for the Ultimate and the Cap

Just kiddin Lou. I havent heard of anybody having problems with rail mounts. I'm getting the alumium rail mounts from Brillelli, hope thier ok

BTW, I had my Cap waiting for me when I got home. Big Box! Big Plane! I checked out everything like a kid on Christmas morning. All is there and in great shape. GP really did a great job on this one! The covering is superb! Alot better than I've got from them in the past. I'm impressed to say the least. Glad you guys talked me into it - Bubba and Lou [sm=thumbup.gif]

My next door neighbor, and flying partner, just had his aluminum mount break in two last week at the screw holes and only just got the plane down. That was on a ST .45!!! I'm sure Scott's are stronger but one's enough for me.

The CAP impressed me when it first arrived also. It is a very nice ARF and even more fun to fly!!! You're gonna love the next month or so!!!!

This plane makes for great lunch time flights, two wires, two wing bolts and fuel, flip and fly. I can assembled, checked out and flying is 5 to 7 minutes.

The only bad thing I can think of is the darn wing being one piece. It really makes no difference to me but it can be a pain. But it is way lighter this way.

If you like Caps, you are gonna love this one, If you've heard all the bad stories about Caps being snappy, this one will change you mind. I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Great Planes did their homework on the Performance series planes. I have the Ultimate as well and it flies just as good as this Cap. I've seen and flown the Yak on the Fuji 43 and the guy totally loves it as well as I. He has flown both of mine so him and I have flow all three Performance series planes.

I'd more than support bubbagates claim on this plane. Not only was it the best, most accurate and easiest ARF that I ever put together, but it was the best flying Cap 232 out of five that I have owned and flown.

Sadly mine was sold to a pilot who could only tie the record for the lowest high-speed inverted pass!

I liked it so much that I may get another for 2007.

The OS 1.60 was a good choice. Having built the PITTS with a OS BGX on the front I might consider going that way.

Remember;

Too little power is no good,

The right amount is not enough,

Too much is just right

Of course you have a throttle and you'll never use it all, right?

Regards,

Eric.

Ok, lets talk servos. What do you guys think of Hitec 6545 for the ele and ailerons and a 5985 for the rudder ? I see in the manual though their using Futaba 3305 servos on the surfaces. Is this really enough??? Thanks

I used 3305s on everything with two on the rudder. Never had a problem as you can see in the video. You could go to Hitec HS-5645MGs but I think it's overkill for this plane.

Lou,

This is one time I'm gonna disagree with you. The 5645's would be about the right amount of overkill whhich will give him the kind of torque buffer you want. If he is planning on doing lots of heavy 3D then they will work but the 5645's are slow. For 3D you want fast and strong servos. The 5945's fit that bill and were replaced with the 5985's just recently

I use 5945's all over and they are WAY overkill

If I were building this plane again I'd agree with you 100% however, SewerDude is still suffering sticker shock from the last servo I told him to get so money is obviously an issue. Buying 6 servos he could save $120.00 just between the 3305s and the 5645s. It's always tough trying to put one of these together on a budget and I just wanted to let him know that if he goes with the 3305s he's still going to have a good plane. At 6v he'd have a transit time of .20 sec @ 60degrees and 124 oz/in of torque. Not numbers to sneer at. Spending the extra $120.00 will put him at .18 sec @ 60 degrees with 164 oz/in of torque. And it would be better but, A. Would HE notice the difference? and B. Is he going to be doing the type of hardcore 3D that would require the upgrade? Lot's of considerations there. 5985s are nearly $100.00 a piece. ($89.99) making his servos cost nearly twice as much as his plane.

SewerDude, Don't forget that with the gasser in this plane your twin rudder servos now go in the tail. You'll need a reverser unless you have a radio (9CAF) that will allow you to mix the elevators in which case you're going to need a couple of 36" extensions.

Lou,

Point taken and I never gave the budget thing a thought. Good points all around

Just got the 5955 titanium gear servos in for my Edge. SWEET!! Now if I can just get the darn plane here so I can measure for the rest of the hardware. Bought a 26cc from Adam with my MT 52 Pro and he sent me a free Jersey Modellers 2.5 gal fuel can. Got the 26 and the can, NOW i'm waitng for the 52. Says he shipped it so maybe today. P.S. That thing is tunnel-ready so I may need some advice on pipes and cans. Going with a Vess 22B or A depending on the AUW. Man this link is slow this morning!!!

Thanks for the advice guys. I'm not near the level some of your are at 3D. I just didnt want to buy "weak" servos and have the gears strip or flutter happen. Been there. I'd really like to go with one strong servo on the rudder if at possible. I will definitely use 6 volts, although I've always used 4.8 in the past..... I thought I read on this thread, although I might be wrong. but someone was saying unless you have a very heavy gas engine, leave the servos for the rudder in the glow position, up front under the canopy. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks

I'm at 51 ozs including my mount and you're at 57 without yours. Put the servos in the tail. It'll balance great and you won't have to work out the geometry on the pull-pull system. It still uses two on a y-harness but 2 5645s will cost less then the one 5955 and give you more power. BTW I'm still learning 3D, the guy flying my plane in that video is the National Freestyle Champion and IMAC Unlimited Champion so don't think I'm anywhere near doing that. LOL[&o][&o][&o][&o]

Well, I got the CAP all charged up and ready to go and it starting raining again. I gotta find another state to live in. There's a reason we have rain forests and our runway is virtually surrounded by them. BTW the blue insn't water, just more trees we cut off of the picture.[][][][] The ones off the ends of the runway are only about 30 to 50 feet, the ones across the runway are 100 to 150 feet. Oh joy!! It's okay though, it gives the Bald Eagles a jump off point to attack our planes.

Ok, Lou .I'll put the rudder servo in the tail, thanks. I think I'll go with the 5645's for everything but the throttle and the rudder. Unless somebody has a better idea. I still need to figure out a strong servo fortherudder, since I'm only going to use one. Nice pic Lou, naw you dont need to move. Atleast not to Indiana, its -5 right now with -25 wind chill with a foot of snow on the ground......Stay where your at

Sewerdude...

I use one 5945 on the rudder of my CAP. It's plenty. You don't need two. I only use 4.8v on this plane. Although, if I could do it again I'd go 6v. But one rudder is plenty. This plane will KE like no other and flat spin great also. Very powerful rudder needed on those stunts. I can do them fine.

Good luck.

Thanks
Barry

Hey guys,
I got a chance to fly the cap again today. We seem to be finaly getting some decent weather after a snow spell. It was a bit windy 20mph gusts. I tried the up thrust bubbagates recomended for the porpusing during landing and it helped a little. I added a mix of down elevator. This helped the most. Still balooned a bit. The plane is so light and tail heavy and it was really windy so I can't complain.
Aerobatics are awesome. I've been practicing rolling harriers in straight line and circles a lot on the simulator. With this plane at the field I do them better than on the simulator. Amazing!! I just do them at about 50ft. It's a new bird when I get brave enough I'll do them at 10ft .
I took some pics at the field. Weather is sopposed to be nicer tomorrow. Temp up low wind and sunny. I'll try to get some in flight pics.

Barry, what did you use for the ele and ailerons?