Bear in mind 38, that we are using (that is, we that are using) 30% Cool Power Heli fuel. It has 22% oil content so we are sort of cancelling most of that heat with pure lubrication. I did notice a tiny bit more heat using the 30% vs. !5% but not that much. And the Saito 82 of mine does just as Barry said, idles smoother and transitions like a banshee, no hesitation of any kind. Plus it really growls with it. I may consider mixing a gallon of each, Cool Power 30% and Omega 15% for some 22.5% nitro and 19.5% oil content. I think that would be ideal for me! I have heard of people running as low as 12% oil in the Saitos but I think that's nuts. My Saito book says to use a minimum of 20% oil for a long life. I don't mind running the 17% that's in the Omega because of the special "Cleancastor" with wetting special agent and a polarity manipulation that creates an utra-high viscosity oil that makes it equivelent to an 18% to 19% oil, but I wouldn't use anything lower.

Bliss

Barry Cazier

Barry...... "Do" Bipe..... Now that's thinking!!! Maybe if we all send that
thought to G.P. It may become reality..........
UCD giant colors on a bipe? Nooooooooo Way! (ugly)


Sent mine in also. Lets keep bugging them until they yield. We are the power.

Putting my Do back together. Will be ready soon. All I have to fly now is a Kadet 40 (wife's trainer) and a 60 size Piper Cub . I feel withdrawl pangs.

Just my two cents worth on higher oil,nitro contents on fuel. The higher percentages of addatives, the less menthenol which is the actual burning part of fuel. Higher cost, less flight times usually, more mess, more heat (in mine anyhow).


Doug

Me and a few fellow members have always said a Do with the Funtana wing would be perfect. Better harriers,rolling harriers,elevators,walls,still good KE,which Funtana lacks.(until the X100 anyway).

Let's follow Barry's lead...... Off to the G. P. site for the future Bipe UCD

This is the link I used, Just in case[8D].... Hope it's the same

http://www.greatplanes.com/feedback/...-comments.html

Well, my UCD is finally getting closer to being completed. I just ordered the CF pushrod sets from Central Hobbies and they should be here next week. Hopefully, I can remove the kits horns and fill the old holes up without any problem. I am replacing the kit horns with Du-bro's Heavy Duty horns and those will sit farther aft that the kit ones at the geometry looks that way.
Now all I need is to get the new Saito 82 in a few weeks and I'll be ready to take her ouut and test fly.

Cheers,

Mark

Well, I'm not a bipe guy but it sounds like fun.......[X(]

I don't have a bipe but they do catch my interest. I would get one if they made a UCD.

ForeverHero...Just put a little CA glue in the holes and drill the new hole. You'll be fine. Sounds like you are coming along nicely. We anticipate your maiden flights and stories.

Thanks
Barry

There's a lot of guys at my club that would hate to see a Do Bipe,mostly the gasser crowd,I would never here the end of it if I bought one. I think they have some kind of issue or something. When I told several of them I was doing hovering tail touches with the Do,I got negative replies back like:"I have to see it first" and when I didnt do it on command "you didnt do anything I cant do". It was breezy that day and I've been doing them in the evenings when its light or calm. Granted,its cheating a bit flying mostly when its calm, but its safer and still good to see what can be done in optimum conditions. I wonder if they will bother to ask the people that saw the tail touches? Something tells me they dont want to know or maybe they really dont care,its like they love their planes and how they are flying,nothing else matters.

i made my request, made it for a 46 or 60 size, would be neat

Hi Doug,

Just as you said, you are correct. Usually that is the case. However, these Morgan fuels are designed to do just what we want. They have a special wetting agent that allows oil in the fuel to be able to lubricate as though there were more, thus, more burnable fuel in the chamber (echoes your post). Plus they have fiddled with the electrical polarity of the particles to make it stick to metal better. In this case we are both correct. Crazy, huh? It was the first thing I noticed on the bench. The engine spewed far less oil, ran much better and I thought I was NEVER going to finish the tank! I'm a believer!

And, RCLEMENT, I recieved my Bru-line filter in the mail yesterday! Woo-hoo, it's Christmas in August! Thank you, thank you, thank you! You're the best! Now, if Horizon could only get those v. stacks out the door I would be able to mount this up to my Saito. I can't wait!

Bliss

Hi Mark,
I am delighted with my 82 purchase, I just wanted to make sure you knew about the $229 (+$7 s/h) deal I got from Hobby Warehouse. I don't think anyone will beat that. If you do know, then you're set, they are great guys to deal with. (My LHS wants $250+9% local sales tax{undeserved!!!!} And they are very competitive with mail order prices on most everything else.) My only rub, was that they failed to ship a reciept with the motor, not a huge problem, but you must have one to get your warranty and I had to call them to get it. If you need more info on them, PM me and I'll set you up!

Bliss

Ahhhhh....

The 82. It's a great engine. Starts on the first flip, runs like a banchee, quiet, nice,

Thanks
Barry

I picked up my new Do 46 this afternoon Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing I'll have one back in the air soon in fact my goal is to get it ready to fly for a fun fly this coming Sunday [X(]

I have read through some of this thread and I am sure I haven't gotten to it yet but I was wondering what weight I should expect to see with a Saito 82? Thanks!

Hey guys, whats the best 3d prop to run on this plane with a large two stroke. I thought about a 15 * 4 but what about the prop hitting the ground. I might have to go with something smaller. Those large 3d props are not cheap and I would rather not order the wrong ones. I have no doubt that you guys are experts with this plane, but man it looks small for some of the engines I have seen on here such as the Satio 100. Just by looks in the box I would have thought a OS 70FS would have ran it with authority. Im still planning to start out with the ST G-.90 and some throttle management so please let me know the best prop for this set up.
Thanks a bunch,
Brad

rustypep, should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 5.bs 14oz and 6.bs 2 oz depending on electronics you use


and Brad, the 15x4 will have plenty of clearance!!

good luck guys[8D]

hey, you hitech guys, i almost have my grand-daughters new pink and sky blue trainer built, and was wandering if this hitech flight pack would be compatible with my jr tx if i get the same freq?never used anything like this before, just jr stuff

thanks guys

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUZ91&P=7

gjeffers...

My understanding is the Hitec stuff works with either JR or Futaba. You'll be fine. They one thing I think happens is the servos go in opposite directions as they would with a Futaba. Either mount the servos the other way or change it in your radio. Should be a problem. And most of the time the Hitec servos come with a universal plug that fits JR or Futaba.

rustypep...

I've built 4. They each got a bit lighter. I think I just paid more attention to the details. I don't use wheel pants. My lightest one weighs 5lbs 12ozs. My heaviest one was 6lbs 4 ozs. All of them were with the Super Saito 82.

The lighter they are the better they flat spin land.

Thanks
Barry

gjeffers...

Oh...yeah it would work better if you get the receiver the same frequency as your transmitter.

Thanks
Barry

alright , thanks Barry...........ill post pics of her plane tomorrow........real pretty

Thanks guys. At some point I will get around to the other 150 pages in this thread . Great info and I have a Saito 82 sitting in a box waiting for a home so this will be prefect.

Gary,

That is an absolute affirmative. The Hitec stuff runs on the JR just fine. You just have to make sure you have the shift setting correct. Airtronics/JR are positive shift and Futaba/Hitec are negative shift. Not too sure about servos reversing, however you can probably reverse them in the radio. I have my Optic 6 Hitec set to run 3 Futaba's, two JR's and a Hitec reciever and aside from having to go into program mode to choose which plane it is to operate, it's almost like having a radio for each plane. Every reciever is on a different channel! No problem, with the Spectra module, all I have to do is pull out the module and dial up the channel I need, pop it back in the radio and check out and fly it. I would never have guessed I would be able to do that with a radio. Go right ahead with your plans and I hope you get her in the air soon! We need new recruits!

Bliss

Hey! It's not cheating to fly the Do when it's calm. If they think that they're nuts. That's my favorite time to fly the Do. I love it when the wind drops down to nuthin' and I can get some prime Do time in. That's the best.

Hey Bliss. Glad you got your filter........[8D]

Rusty, You don't have to read all the prior posts to build and fly your Do. Hit us with whatever questions you have and we'll get you set up good. Right off the bat the biggest changes/upgrades are the landing gear, engine choice, and beefing up the tail. Of course you can also tint your canopy and really be styling.