same thing i did barry, bumped my throttle and it got me not a railroad tie. i am using the rubber band and it does make it bump proof.just take it loose when your ready to go.

I'm still trying to shake off this MAD and I look at the calendar. Tomorrow is Friday the 13th. And guess what. The weather forcast is for sunny, warm and calm
Thanks,
Barry

Barry sorry about your mishap... Darn!.. But I know your just
upset now cause I know quitings not in your game!! It's just
something else learnt[sm=idea.gif]...
I did something similar to that on my maiden of my 4*60... It
never left the ground, hit the fence and broke 1/4 of the wing
after dropping my transmitter and breaking both sticks which
put the coals to the engine... Oh
I was trying to catch/stop the plane because it was idleing to
high, and I did not want to land the first time on a dead stick..
That would have made the funniest videos... Now everything
gets done on the table/hold down.. Or I call a fellow member
to give a helping hand!! These things cost too much, And there
VERY DANGEROUS to be taking short cuts!!!!! But we all do:-(
Heads up guy!!!!

Barry Sorry to hear about the mishap! Hopefully you'll calm down in a day or two then start trying to find a new bird for that 110!!

Hey Barry, tough break. It sure does suck to lose a plane. I lost my somethin extra two weeks ago and have been asking myself if its all worth it as I put together my UCD. But we must fight through it.

Even now I look at my UCD and think maybe i should just leave it on the ground so it will stay in one peace. But Damn I know it will look even better in the sky. Im torn. I think I am going to spend 3 hours pre-flight checking this plane before i take off. I was thinking about trying to fly tomorrow, but maybe i should stay away from Friday the 13th.

I am also making a profile plane out of my remaining Somethin Extra wing, and one i had left from the kit i bought from my first rebuild. Its still a work in progress, i was going to try and take it up to get my legs back after my crash, but it wont be done by Saturday and I need to fly.

Barry, Sorry to hear of your loss. []Don't quit though........ Just a set back for now but you'll rebound back... Hang in there.....[8D]

Not to take away from anything but I maidened my Twist today. What a fun plane. I love it. I can't even amagine flying this plane on high rates though.......... [X(] This is one really squirrely plane even on the recommended throws. I let my former instructor fly it and even he thought it was pretty touchy.

I got the UCD up again too......... lots of fun but I didn't attempt an inverted flat spin landing.............[X(]

CeeGee...Glad you got the Twist up and back home safe!! They do
look like fun planes... Have fun!!!

Barry, we buy, we build, we crash, we buy, we build, we crash, etc. My wife is very understading.

Mine too. She really is. But I'm trying to figure out what's going on with all my crashes. I asked an older gentlemen in our club how many planes he had crashed because I knew he had been doing it for 30+ years. I loved his answer. He said, "Everyone I ever had." That's classic.
Also, I was wondering, do you guys ever do the same thing over and over again when you fly? Wear the same hat? Walk up to the plane on the left side? Always store the plane exactly the same way? Carry your plane in your left hand? Are you/we supersticious?
I always wear the same lucky hat when I fly. A yellow, old, beat up, baseball cap. Today I was thinking, that's my lucky hat and I wouldn't fly without it. Then I thought, man I've been wearing that hat every time I've crashed!?!?!?!?!
Anyways,
Thanks,
Barry

CeeGee, Good on ya for maidening the Twist. Did you do a flat sping (inverted)? Man those planes will really twist...!?!?!?!. Anyways, they are a bit squirly, especially compared to the UCD.
Thanks,
Barry

Barry,

I have been in the hobby for only 4 years now and have what I feel like are 10 years worth of crashes under my belt. From Midairs, mechanical failure, dumb thumbs, to hitting the pole for our wind sock on a low pass. The guy that taught me how to fly has always seemed to have the atitiude of, yeah, thats what happens. Its tough to keep it straight in my head, especially when i start shelling out the dough for a new plane, and the correct accessories for that plane.

But then I fly and forget all about everything else. Then when I am done with a good day of flying all I can think about is, when can i go again. I just have to keep making a list of things to do and not to do.

And as for understanding wives, mine is great too. Besides its her fault, she bought me my first plane.

Barry, sorry about your loss.

Ok, I know that this has been discussed several times, and I'm sorry for bringing it up again. It is difficult to sift through 73 pages! So, I have the 50 SX on my UCD, and as impressive as its power output is, I have found it to be totally underpowered for what this airplane was intended to do. With the type of maneuvers the UCD is capable of, and the altitude I'd like to perform them at, I'm starting to think the more power the better. My question becomes this: How big should I go? I have an opportunity to pick up a Saito 91 at a slight discount and I'm close to doing it. I'm wondering though If I'd be better off going with the 82 (or something even smaller). For the price difference that seems like a lesser buy, but I'm not looking to go overboard with power. Right now I'm leaning toward the Saito 91, but I'd love to hear about some alternatives anyone can recommend.

Thanks for the input,
Rob

I am using a Magnum 70 stroke and I think it works great with a 14x6 prop. But, if you feeling underpowered with the 50sx, maybe you should go to the 90 size engine.

CRASH!! O.K. somewhere not too long ago in this post I noted how difficult it would seem to be to knock off the landing gear given how easy this plane lands. Well..... I was flying Yesterday and my UCD dead-sticked flying level so I brought it in and landed very smoothly as usual. I noticed that my rear wheel was gone. As I looked for the wheel, I wondered what caused the dead stick on this very reliable engine and debated whether or not I should fly again. After about 30 minutes of looking, I was able to find the wheel right next to my stand, doh. I put it back on as I wondered should I change the glow plug....I should probably stop flying the day hasn't gone well..... no I will just fly it as is one more time. Stupid, I should have listened to myself.

I tested the engine on the stand and everything appeared O.K. My take-off was full of power a few passes, a few roles, a few loops, it is running perfect. Time to hover at an easy 100', pull up, nice, wait, did it quit, oh $@#?, backwards, rudder, recovery a 50' about 75 yards from the Field over water, o.k., keep the speed and get it to the field, I made it, I can even turn 90 degrees to make the runway, left roll at 10', oh $@$? high rates forgot, tip stall, correct to level, nope to far, elev....lev.............. wing hits, gear hits, gear pulls bottom of fuse which pulls on the wing dowel, which pulls on the wing bolt, which pulls on the wing mount, which pulls on the fuse... Basically I saw the wing tumble separately from the fuse tumbling, separately from the tumbling landing gear. It did not look to good at all.

However, it is very fixable, mostly just re-glueing the parts pack together, everything broke pretty clean. The fuse is probably the worst problem but easy to fix.

I think I will reinforce the wing mounts, and make the area where the gear bolts on and the wing dowel goes in strong. Then I will use nylon bolts on the gear. Hopefully they will break any make some holes in the covering without tear the wing out.

By the way, the nylon wing bolts did not break, the wing mount was ripped from the fuse and attached to the wing.

Hey Barry, Remember in this sport there is those that have crashed & those that are going to crash.........I had a sportster I built 14 yrs ago. Last year I got back into our sport after a 6 yr break. I was just getting my thumbs back when on the third flite of the day the plane started to act like I was getting hits all over the place. After the sound of the impact, I looked down and realized, I forgot to extend the antenae. I replaced that old bird with the UCD-Which in turn led me to this thread and all you great guys. Have you ever noticed that when you build a plane the second time around it comes out so much better, ie 2nd 3rd or 4th UCD or Mayhems.

Good flying days even if they are the 13th should always be used. See ya, Shawn

Barry... Mine is, using the same table/spot at the field... So far all
has left it open for me when I get to the field late:-) But I guess
the biggest thing is the rag I keep in my back pocket to wipe my
hands after putting my plane on the runway... But it get's my hands
more greasy with a year's worth of flying:-)) Oh and my roll just
after lift off...

v_twin1k.. A few have the 91's and some with Saito 100... They
say it balances well, flies great, and pullout is fast and unlimited...
Only neg is less flight time.... Throttl control in level flight is a must.
If I build another I'll use my Mag 91 or if I buy another engine it'll
be the Saito 100... The 100 weighs/fits is about the same as the 91,
has a bit more power, for about 30 more...... Better deal?????

Great day for the field.... But can't go:-(.... Need to bond with the
better half..... It's her "B" day:-)

Spud37, My 4th UCD 46 is sooooo sweet. I only wish I dared fly it.
acolvard: I feel your pain. The landing gear replacement was a given. I don't know where you got the idea that you might not break it loose.
v_twin1K: I flew my UCD with an 82 I have never wanted for more power. The 82 is great. But after discussion with gjeffers I upgrading to a 100 Saito. I just want a little more acceleration down pit road, nothing to do with flying.
sctcrash: I've been in this hobby since June of 2003. I've enjoyed it very much. I've progressed pretty fast I think and I'm able to do almost any 3D stuff. But I've had no advanced training and have to figure out all the manueuvers on my own. Hence, a lot of the time I figure it out with 20/20 hind sight. Anyways, my trainer told me to expect about a plane a year. The Mayhem makes 10 for me. I think I'll send him a bill.
Thanks,
Barry

Barry, I think flying these type of planes is living on the edge. Flying around doing aerobatics isn't easy compared to just flying around doing boring type flying. I mean, I could get my 4* up in the air and just putt around but I wouldn't have fun with it. Doing inverted flat spins, hovering low to the ground, doing low level inverted passes like Gjeffers, [X(][X(] MAN!!! That's living on the edge. Gets my blood pumping just thinking about it.......[8D]

To me, the hardest part of crashing is rebuilding or building another plane. They may call them ARF's but they aren't anywhere near "almost ready to fly". The other hard part about crashing is feeling like a duffus at the field because I crashed. [:-] The money part is inconsiquential...........[:-]

Thanks for the engine advice, guys. I'm a little hesitant to make a purchase like that without having any experience with these engines. It sounds like everyone is satisfied with the 80 - 1.0 four strokes. I'll send some pictures and a review once I get her installed - should be late this weekend.

Acolvard - sorry to hear about your misfortune. I bet it was a spectacular sight!

Barry, i wear the same hat, go to the strip in the same truck wear the same shirt( i have 6 of them) and finally i always fly at the same place(so far). how is that 100 comming? overpowering is overrated, your gonna see(and love it), ill never care again how much flack i have to take, its the only way to go(the ucd46) anyway!!![8D]
CeeGee, touchy makes me twitchy[X(]
Ron, i have that rag in my back pocket to all the time, but cut it out of a t-shirt and make 4 of them and they will have the same luck and you can change more often
oh and Barry, my bro in law was there when i put my 60 size straight into the ground and he had nightmares about it for a couple of days, haw haw!!!!!,youll be ok, just remember ----- its a short life, have funnnnn

Maybe it was worth it. You know, to have your brother in law have nightmares. I haven't yet started putting the 100 in the 46 yet. I've been flying the 60. I was able to repair it and the 46 with the 82. I have another 100 I took out of my Ultra Stick 60. I've decided to retire that plane and worked a deal with my left handed friend. He now has it and I kept the 100 just for the UCD. I'm gonna get going on it this week. With the demise of the Mayhem I'm down to the UCD 60 & UCD 46. I also have a Ultra Stick 120 Lite. All are great planes but with only 3 I better be careful. I gave the Funtana away, but I was never going to fly it again anyway. I have a little Mayhem on order, since January. But it doesn't look like it'll ship until June and I have a Showtime on order and they are saying June for that too. But I might just take some time off too. I'd been flying almost everyday since the good weather hit. I had the fever man, had the fever. But I'm burned out and need a break and my hanger could use some rest too. Now I have a couple 110 for somewhere. Showtime will get one of them for sure. Anyways.
Thanks,
Barry

Unrelated... but here's one of the coolest flying videos I've ever seen.............. [link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=2971517[/link]

Nice video. I'd like to see some of the RC jet guys do that stuff. So often they just make vertical and high speed passes. Nothing else.
thanks,
Barry

Same here, We had a few people bring in RC jets to a couple of our
fly-ins... They were nice and scale like and for sure fast, But besides
the rolls, loop and smoke not much else... A few of our members said
I bet you'd like to get one, I said yea right... Besides the cost, They
would have to do a lot more than that..... But if I had the money...

** When I was cleaning off my UCD the other day after some flights I noticed that when the ailerons moved to an extreme position the servo horns seemed to go so far that they looked like they bound up and wouldn't return. Like they had swung past a normal arc of travel and were almost straight up and down. [:-] Just wondering if anyone has noticed this on any of their planes before?