which covering scheme did you get?? i have to say, the Burst one that i got seems pretty ok.. guess we'll see when i get some flights on it!

My Alitalia one seems decent too - even though it's possible the Alitalias were the RC Superstore Cap - it all still seems like chinacote to me. I went over everything with my iron before, during and after the build.

Now if I can just get it in the air.

I have the burst scheme, both of the bursts I have seen have been horrible, wrinkles everywhere. I can't get them out no matter how hot the heat gets. Maybe I was just unlucky, still dosen't change my opinion of Chiefaircraft.

I've had several issues with my Alitalia Cap-X. First, it's very wrinkled, a small amount of heat will not take out the wrinkles and a bit more starts to discolor it. The wing would not bolt onto the fuse, I had to remove and relocate the blind nuts in the fuse. The horizontal was therefore also askew with the fuse when squared with the wing. No matter what the person at Chief may tell you, these are NOT the same aircraft. The servo pockets in the wing are a monumental pain, as the servo is designed to lay on its side. These mounts are poorly designed, and the screws that come with them are insufficient. The fiberglass covers for the servos are more gelcoat than fiberclass and are extremely brittle. Be prepared to butcher them if using ball links. The elevator servo locations are also different between the two. These are not major differences, visually, but the real test will come when they're flown. I managed to get Chief to send me two extra control arms, however, they are not the ones included with the kit. I've been drilling out the holes in the included ones to use 4-40 ball links on them, this will not work on the ones Chief sent me as they have a ball bearing in the hole. Anyone planning on using 2-56 is welcome to them. Anyone planning to mount your engine to the stock firewall: DON'T. These have been poorly put together with very little glue and pull apart very easily. Nmking and I are using almost identical setups, I'll report back on any observed flight differences when we get them both in the air.

Doc,
Which engine are you planning on using? I have the same plane and had considered using a DA 50 but after getting it (the plane) in my hands I thought the firewall looked alittle weak for that much HP, I do have a Moki 1.8 that seems to be a better match. The alignment of the horizontal stab on mine is a nightmare, it's either "plumb" to the fuse and alittle off on the side to side or on side to side and not square to the fuse, the "happy medium" took a good hour to find.

Dr. and I are both using DL 50's. We re-did the firewalls and put new ones in. Two pieces of 3/16 in ply, with triangle stock everywhere, and a little cabosil mixed in with the epoxy for a little added strength, a pain to do, but necessary if you are going with a 50cc.

Note: I just flew an old Hanger 9 1.20 cap, that is about the same dimensions. It flew very well with a moki 1.35. Not 3D though

Cabosil? Is that like a micro ballon filler? Also, did you run into any balancing issues with the 50cc?
Thanks

Haven't done final weight and balance. Cabosil is a structural filler, unlike micro balloons. Instead of glass spheres, it is microscopic fiber glass strips that, when added to epoxy, form a matrix that prevents the epoxy from flaking and falling apart. Kind of like glass filled nylon.

I will say that the new firewall is about 3in farther back than the original.

Oh , Ok, I have used that before. I am interested in following the progress of your build, If you don't mind me asking questions when they arise.


Dean

No problem I will be happy to answer any of your questions. I am almost finished with it. I still have to mount the bat, rx, and ignition. I am also still waiting on chief to complete the plane by sending me a canopy. Much later I will cut the cowl (ick- -I hate that part). If you want any pictures of my ugly but effective craftsmanship just let me know and I'll post them.

Thanks, I really appriciate this.

Glue is curing on my canopy right now - hopefully I'll fly it this coming weekend.

Can someone give me some in put on a cap x with the red white and blue and purple cap x with all the jagged edges> I have heard there is a bad cg problom with this plane. I want to put a moki 1.8 on it. I want it to fly more like a sport plane. I have only been flying for a year. Will this plane fly grasefully if set up to do so?

Blueeagle140, This plane fly' s really well. I dont know what your engine set up weighs, but with mine I just needed to set the battery up front behind the firewall. NO ADDED WEIGHT!! It flys great, lands great. Just remember you need to stay on the throttle just a little when landing. Cap's have a tendency to snap more than other designs. ....EMVIN....

For what it's worth I will NEVER buy ANY ARF if it has CHINAKOTE on it... awful stuff...

you're describing the "Burst" trim... that is the one i have, and it did come with the motor mounts

i've got an OS 160 on mine. i left the servos in stock locations,, and even with a heavy battery up front, i had to add 4 oz in the nose.
if you use lighter servos, (not metal gears), i think it could balance with out adding lead.
the moki is a bit heavier than the OS , so it should be close!

I have a saito 220 with an aluminum mount and did not need to add weight just moved the 2100ma NMH foward. And yes the chinacoat S*%#S one of these days i'm going to remove it an replace it with Ultracoat or Monocoat. I dont think i'm up for the task at the moment. It just seems easer to fly it as is and watch the chinacoat come off like streamers. EMVIN

Thanks for the in put guys. Did u put cg where the book said?

Yeah I first had it set at the most agressive setting landing was a little rough, but, still manageable then I wound up moving it foward just behind the firewall. Perfect....

I SAY AGAIN, IF YOU WANT A COMPLETE AIRPLANE, I WOULD ADVISE YOU:

DON'T ORDER FROM CHIEFAIRCRAFT.COM!
DON'T ORDER FROM CHIEFAIRCRAFT.COM! !
DON'T ORDER FROM CHIEFAIRCRAFT.COM! ! !

They don't have any Cap-x's in stock, they are selling, "the possibility that they might get some more in stock". Straight from the horse's mouth!

It is almost April, I ordered my plane in January and I still don't have the whole thing!!!!!!

THEY HAVE OFFERED NO COMPENSATION ONLY A HALF HEARTED APPOLOGY.


DON'T ORDER FROM CHIEFAIRCRAFT.COM

Ok, Chief has finally come through, so enough with them.

I would like to say that there is a cg problem with this plane, plan to put your battery in the motor box and fly a heavy motor. I am flying a DL-50 and it balances at 4 inches aft of the leading edge at the tip.

Has anyone tried flying it with the cg this far aft???

BlueEagle....I have a Moki 2.10 in my CAP-X and it balances perfectly on the CG with no lead. Still havent maidened mine yet so cant comment on the suitability of this plane for someone with a years experience....all i can say is be wary of snap rolls when applying alot of elevator and slow downwind turns with or without motor..that said the CAP-X isnt supposed to be like your average 232 / hangar 9 cap....so more than likely it will land like a trainer.

I will maiden mine this weekend, so hopefully will let you know soon!

Cheers

Wavy

That's good advice but I wouldn't use the word "trainer" in the same breath as "CAP". It will be one of the best Caps you've ever flown but don't get careless with the elevator.
The photo shows the total amount of low rate elevator throw I'm using and I can do violent consecutive snap rolls with it.
My CAP balances with an OS 1.60 and no lead weight.

Thanks Iam glad to hear from someone that has a moki in it. please let me konw how it goes. where did u cg it?

wow that is not much throw in it. It flys ok like that?