Chip Hyde's Cap-X - Building & Flying
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What do you all think of a moki 2.10 on it?
What do you all think of a moki 2.10 on it?
not a bad idea as there wa sa guy flying one with a DA50 up front at one time. I am trying to find something a bit more powerful than the YS 140 but keeping the weight in check. It is proving to be a difficult task
#1027
Does anybody know where I can get parts for one of these planes? I have the Italia scheme. It has been in its box since I ordered it a year ago waiting for me to build it and I finally cut the tape on the box to build it and discovered the rear wing broken in half.[:@]
#1031
Well, I thought I'd post, just to keep the thread going. A few posts ago, someone asked if anyone was still flying their CAP-X. It is my "usual" plane, and I try to get out every weekend with it, until the dismal winter of Wisconsin sets in, which is just about now. I have a FPE 2.4, with Hitec 625/645s in mine. This is my first successful gas plane, and my glow fuel expenditure has dropped to a couple gallons a season as a result. I still get the old glow profile out occasionally, but this airplane is head and shoulders above anything I've ever flown. I bought a second one just now off RCU it was damaged in shipping unfortunately. Almost fixed, so I can start assembly. With the backup, I think I can allow myself to let go with this one to improve my skills.
No lead, balanced just fine.
At the end of season one, I noticed a little slop in recovery from a snap on one flight, and after landing, realized that the entire left elevator half was held on by the center CA hinge. I guess the inner and outers just wore out. Replaced with pinned hinges, and have had no issues.
I very much recommend this plane to guys moving up from glow sport planes to gas, and 3D. When you get into a harrier for the first time, which works on this ship just fine with no wing rocking ... whew! The smile on your face just cannot be wiped off.
Chip, if you are out there ... thanks again!
No lead, balanced just fine.
At the end of season one, I noticed a little slop in recovery from a snap on one flight, and after landing, realized that the entire left elevator half was held on by the center CA hinge. I guess the inner and outers just wore out. Replaced with pinned hinges, and have had no issues.
I very much recommend this plane to guys moving up from glow sport planes to gas, and 3D. When you get into a harrier for the first time, which works on this ship just fine with no wing rocking ... whew! The smile on your face just cannot be wiped off.
Chip, if you are out there ... thanks again!
#1032
ORIGINAL: Lightning Fan
... someone asked if anyone was still flying their CAP-X.
... When you get into a harrier for the first time, which works on this ship just fine with no wing rocking ... whew! The smile on your face just cannot be wiped off.
... someone asked if anyone was still flying their CAP-X.
... When you get into a harrier for the first time, which works on this ship just fine with no wing rocking ... whew! The smile on your face just cannot be wiped off.
I agree with your assessment of it's harrier capabilities. Considering that some Caps have a reputation for scary flight characteristics, the Cap-X is the model that I feel most at ease with doing harrier landings. Though the Cap-X is a great harrier machine, I rarely harrier all the way down to a landing because it is just another chance to make a lousy landing and mess up your landing gear.
#1035
Have any of you compared this ship to the GP CAP-G? I have one of those as well, and will be putting a Taurus 3.2 in it. Just wondering if it should act the same. RC Report did an article on the CAP-G and said good things, but they only had a 42 cc in it.
#1036
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... They may be still made under another name.
... They may be still made under another name.
The Extreme Aircraft CAP 232 in Alitalia markings was once sold by RC Superstore and it was the same ARF as the CAP-X. Extreme Aircraft seems to have disappeared from the scene but that CAP might still exist somewhere. Owners of both CAPS say the only difference they could find was that the CAP-X had double beveled flight surfaces.
The picture is from an RCU review of the Extreme Aircraft CAP.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=422
#1037
It appears that Extreme Aircraft still exists and their CAP 232 is being sold in Europe.
http://www.wnw-intl.com/wings/default_wings.asp
http://www.wnw-intl.com/wings/default_wings.asp
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hate to bring this old thread back to life but I am about to receive the Syssa 30cc engine and will bring the old CAP-X back to life. It is currently in storage and need a measurement and was wondering if anyone who still has their can tell me the distance from FW to hub so I can order the correct stand offs
Link to the engine is here if anyone is interested: http://www.syssaaircraft.com/cart/pc...?idCategory=11
Link to the engine is here if anyone is interested: http://www.syssaaircraft.com/cart/pc...?idCategory=11
#1039
Well, mine is still going strong. I've got another one, NIB, but it got some damage in shipping. When this one goes in, out comes that one.
I measured 9 5/8" from the forward full bulkhead to the hub. I got 5 5/8" from the firewall on the engine box to the hub. The cowl ends a little bit aft of the full bulkhead, and screws through the cowl into that bulkhead, to secure the cowl to the nose.
I'm using an FPE 2.4 (42 cc) gas engine in mine, swinging an APC 20x10W. It goes like hell ... I wish I were a better pilot to get more out of it.
Good luck with it.
I measured 9 5/8" from the forward full bulkhead to the hub. I got 5 5/8" from the firewall on the engine box to the hub. The cowl ends a little bit aft of the full bulkhead, and screws through the cowl into that bulkhead, to secure the cowl to the nose.
I'm using an FPE 2.4 (42 cc) gas engine in mine, swinging an APC 20x10W. It goes like hell ... I wish I were a better pilot to get more out of it.
Good luck with it.
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Hi,
What does your Cap-X weight with the FPE 2.4 in it?
I,ve got a Saito 220 but am rethinking that option due to the overall cost of glow fuel these days.
thx
Dave
What does your Cap-X weight with the FPE 2.4 in it?
I,ve got a Saito 220 but am rethinking that option due to the overall cost of glow fuel these days.
thx
Dave
#1041
Not sure ... I'll weigh tomorrow. I seem to remember around 12, but it was long ago.
I say this I really like gas, and it is hard to go back and do glow now, even though some of my ships are still glow equipped.
The 2.4 balances it perfectly, and pulls unlimited vertical, harriers, etc.
I say this I really like gas, and it is hard to go back and do glow now, even though some of my ships are still glow equipped.
The 2.4 balances it perfectly, and pulls unlimited vertical, harriers, etc.
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Thanks for getting back to me.
I look forward to hearing how much yours weighs as it will give me a good sense of whether I should continue looking at the 2.4 as an option or to start looking elsewhere.
My project is expected to come out at 13-13.5lbs and I,m a little concerned its going to be to heavy for the engine.
thx
Dave
I look forward to hearing how much yours weighs as it will give me a good sense of whether I should continue looking at the 2.4 as an option or to start looking elsewhere.
My project is expected to come out at 13-13.5lbs and I,m a little concerned its going to be to heavy for the engine.
thx
Dave
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Thanks for checking that info for me Ligthning Fan.
Well it would seem that if you,re happy with the power of the FPE 2.4 on your Cap @ 13 10oz I should be pretty pleased with mine at a similar weight.
I,m going to make arrangments to go get one later this week.
I,ll post a pic when I get it.
thx
Dave
Well it would seem that if you,re happy with the power of the FPE 2.4 on your Cap @ 13 10oz I should be pretty pleased with mine at a similar weight.
I,m going to make arrangments to go get one later this week.
I,ll post a pic when I get it.
thx
Dave
#1045
Wow! Now I feel responsible for a major purchase! I'm running a 20x10 on mine. Make sure you seal all the covering edges - they tend to come up. I put some strips of clear on the corners of the bottom in the tail. I also had the CA hinges fail in one side of the elevator, so I replaced with pinned hinges. Good luck!!!
#1047
All I can tell you is that a 42 does a very nice job. I guess your 30 would spin an 18 x 10? I'm using a 20 x 10, and the two engines would be at the same RPM ... so you are losing quite a bit.
It depends on the flying you are doing, also. I have a 52 in a H9 CAP with a 80" wing, and its performance is like this one ... unlimited vertical. I am sure the 30 would fly it, but you would not get 3D out of it, I don't think.
It depends on the flying you are doing, also. I have a 52 in a H9 CAP with a 80" wing, and its performance is like this one ... unlimited vertical. I am sure the 30 would fly it, but you would not get 3D out of it, I don't think.
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All I can tell you is that a 42 does a very nice job. I guess your 30 would spin an 18 x 10? I'm using a 20 x 10, and the two engines would be at the same RPM ... so you are losing quite a bit.
It depends on the flying you are doing, also. I have a 52 in a H9 CAP with a 80'' wing, and its performance is like this one ... unlimited vertical. I am sure the 30 would fly it, but you would not get 3D out of it, I don't think.
All I can tell you is that a 42 does a very nice job. I guess your 30 would spin an 18 x 10? I'm using a 20 x 10, and the two engines would be at the same RPM ... so you are losing quite a bit.
It depends on the flying you are doing, also. I have a 52 in a H9 CAP with a 80'' wing, and its performance is like this one ... unlimited vertical. I am sure the 30 would fly it, but you would not get 3D out of it, I don't think.
#1049
I found this post deep in this thread, somewhere around page 10:
I flew one I setup as a test bed for a small gas engine -
the all up weight was exactly - 12.75 lbs
The little gasser turned 7000 on a 18x8 Bambula - so the plane flew very nicely -BUT not near enough power to suite me .
This is a very nice ARF- I soldered all of the control horns and redrilled the bushings to .0625 and used all 2/56 control linkage - JR 811s on th elevators -a 8411 SAon the rudder and early JR digitals inth wings
the linkage is plenty strong
and the control is very precise
With a ZDZ40 -or any 40 that is good -this will be a dynamite ARF
The engine I tested weighed more than the ZDZ40 . it also had much less power as it was only about 1.8 cu in. very smooth - just -no poop.
balance was in the center of the bottom white stripe on the wing - behind the blue LE area.
I tried the Harrier stuff - very good - but power maneuvers were out - the waterfalls pooped out and barely made it back to level -
Nice plane.
So it looks like this guy had a 1.8 ci gasoline engine he was trying, and had trouble with the power 3D stuff. 1.8 ci equals 29.5 cc, which is the size of your engine. Maybe his engine was not as strong as yours, but it can't be too much different. If you look back in the pages from 5 to 15, you see guys happy with 1.6 to 1.8 glow, but reporting that the light engine forced them to add a lot of weight forward to balance the plane.
I have to say that I am not the best engine selection guy, but the post above is probably as close to what you will experience without actually trying it.
Regards,
Rikk
I flew one I setup as a test bed for a small gas engine -
the all up weight was exactly - 12.75 lbs
The little gasser turned 7000 on a 18x8 Bambula - so the plane flew very nicely -BUT not near enough power to suite me .
This is a very nice ARF- I soldered all of the control horns and redrilled the bushings to .0625 and used all 2/56 control linkage - JR 811s on th elevators -a 8411 SAon the rudder and early JR digitals inth wings
the linkage is plenty strong
and the control is very precise
With a ZDZ40 -or any 40 that is good -this will be a dynamite ARF
The engine I tested weighed more than the ZDZ40 . it also had much less power as it was only about 1.8 cu in. very smooth - just -no poop.
balance was in the center of the bottom white stripe on the wing - behind the blue LE area.
I tried the Harrier stuff - very good - but power maneuvers were out - the waterfalls pooped out and barely made it back to level -
Nice plane.
So it looks like this guy had a 1.8 ci gasoline engine he was trying, and had trouble with the power 3D stuff. 1.8 ci equals 29.5 cc, which is the size of your engine. Maybe his engine was not as strong as yours, but it can't be too much different. If you look back in the pages from 5 to 15, you see guys happy with 1.6 to 1.8 glow, but reporting that the light engine forced them to add a lot of weight forward to balance the plane.
I have to say that I am not the best engine selection guy, but the post above is probably as close to what you will experience without actually trying it.
Regards,
Rikk
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I am about to dust off the CAP-X and bring it out for another season of fun. I have a Syssa 30, DLE30 and hopefully the MT35 by the end of the month to try on this bird so I am very excited 
I cannot source parts to save my life for this airplane. Anyone know where I can get a spare cowl for it?
matt

I cannot source parts to save my life for this airplane. Anyone know where I can get a spare cowl for it?
matt



