Zoo look at Pete's stuff in this thread [link]http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=21253&highlight=lipo+warning+light s+piezo[/link]. I got the lights only to prolong the life in my T-REX.
Chris

Low voltage isn't the problem I'm having. Although it is always a factor to watch. I can't remember ever going below 10 v on my 3s's. However, my big problem is almost always the "sandwiched" cell getting too hot (as near as I can figure). Which in turn is killing the lipo. I am currently using 20C 2100-2150's which should easily handle the Rex's amp draw (currently 28 amps according to the meter) and is no where close to the Blade (12 amps). When I recharge, the packs have usually been sitting for at least an hour. Yet I have to still be somehow overheating the pack. I have had three middle cells go bad now. The two outside cells are fine. But since these 3s's are from different manufacturers I can't recombine the packs to make new ones. So now I have three 2s's which are only good for my smaller planks. And before you jump to conclusions, I'm charging at .5 amps. I have thought about inserting a spacer between the cells to allow for cooling, but real estate is limited on the HDE as far as battery space and even tighter on the blade.

Zoo are you using a cell balancer when you charge?

I got out the CP after flying the TRex for a while and WOW what a POS squirl the CP is compared to the TRex! However the CP is really better for the confines of my parking lot. What seperate gyro/Rx/2 or 3 in one have you had luck with using the stock Tx?
Chris

What model T-Rex? I'm about done with the money pit (Blade CP)...

Top my T-Rex is a 450SA which I blinged into an SE. Like the Blade it is a money pit but rebuilds without upgrades are like warm beer and cold pizza.

Hi all. I have been practicing a lot on RealFlight G3 with the bcp. I like the variable pitch setting for the bcp. BTW, I do not have the real helo yet. Hopefully this Friday. Is it supposed to be easier to fly with variable pitch? I have a great time flying that way. I don't think I am into the variable speed thing. Just wanted to vent. I can't wait to get this bird.

The CP part of the heli does make it better to fly in wind, and it also makes it aerobatic... but over all it's probably easier to fly an FP (fixed pitch)

You're welcome to join us over in Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP! that's where most of the blade cp and cp pro action goes on =)

welcome to the bcp community, and let us know if we can help you set up your bird and get it in the air =)

Ditto...Don't take it out and throw it into the air, you won't like the results. Simulators are only about 65% realizm...remember that. I can do stuff on a simulator that experts do with real ones BUT...I can hover real ones pretty decient and that's about it. Real ones are way different because real life conditions and forces acting on your model cannot be accurately put into a computer simulator unless it's VERY expensive (like the simulator the airlines and military use). Go step by step. We on this thread will turn you on to RADDs school of flight and give you pointers as you need them. Some people take a long while just to hover, others progress quick. It's the learning curve thing. Getting a decient bird out of the box helps (RICK).

Hi all. Was beginning to think the thread had died. Resurrection!!!! I used a cell balancer one time, that was the first time I lost a lipo and realized that my charger isn't compatable with the balancer. I have used one with success on my son-in-laws Triton. My bad luck has been with the middle cell overheating while in flight.

My BCP is pretty much a pro except for the 4-in-1. Also the DD tail. I only flew it a few times with the stock Tx, I use a Futaba 7CHP. It flies much better when you can set your own curves and add some expo. I actually have all the parts to go full separates, BL motors, esc's and gyro, but the original motors are still doing fine and it flies well enough so I haven't bothered. I have to admit I haven't flown it for about a month because I'm in the middle of building a house and haven't had time to play.

My rex is a stock HDE (mechanical mixer) About the only upgrades are metal mixers and blade grips. It is tremendously easier to fly than the BCP, but I know that has a lot to do with it's larger size (better in wind) and the HH gyro. I use primarily 335 blades for easy hovering and just putting around.

I also fly gas and electric planks and am attempting to find time to get my 30 size bird up and running again. No time, no time.

The triton is a great charger, but the biggest thing is it does not balance lipo's.... the #2 cell on my heli is always low (probably because of the extra heat like you are talking about). It could result in a dangerous situation without a balancer. The stock charger is a balancer, and also the equnix works well with the triton. Hopefully that helps a bit.

What balancer were you using, and with what charger? The reason why I am asking is because I am putting together all of this info. Thanks!

I have a Maha charger I've had for quite a while. I like it because it is 110v instead of having to use a 12v converter. I tried to use the balancer I bought from Heli-pros with it and it nearly ruined the charger. It did kill the center cell of the lipo I was trying to balance completely. Other than that I've had no problems charging.

You might consider getting 3 heat sinks and stagger them so it looks like you have 1 wrapped around the motor
Sand down the inner part and remover the anodized coating then use *WHITE* heat transfer past you can get ant radio shack.
Vegas/

I've had my BCP for about 4mo now, Haven't been able to do anything but mow the lawn with it. But, after totally disassembling it, (various assly's at various times), I have learned alot about many things. I'm still just s addicted as I was when I saw that first l heli flying around somebody's horse pasture. I have also picked up a few virtues, like patience, planning and preparation. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is.....Spin It Up!

Hi

I have a futaba 8u radio, can I program it for the blade cp pro?????

If so can ya help me with the setting.

It looks like yours can be programmed for the Blade, however.......... I have a 6EXH and am not sure if the menus are close. I can give you the settings i have for mine and you can try them. I know that switching to the programmable Tx made a world of difference on mine. I just took the crystal out of the stock TX and put it in the Futaba. Send me a PM and i will work on getting all the settings from my radio written down on a text document.



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Of all the things I ever lost........................................... I miss my mind the most!

I just got my CP
it did need a little bit of tuning on the one of the blades. it need to add one turn of CP on one blade to tune it..'
Procedure to match the CP is easy..
1. colour the last 1/8 of inch ONE blade tips with a marker.
2. Spin up blades
3. Look to see if you can see 2 blades.
4. If you only see one blade the cp is in balance.
5. If you see 2 then your CP is not in balance, adust the LOWER of the 2 blades by adding 1/2 turn to the CP linkage. (pop off ball trun pop back on) You can tell if it is the one with or without he mark on it6. add 1/2 trun to the LOWER of the 2 blades.

after this is done retrim and fly you will see a huge diff in the little Heli.

Other changes i did on my Blade cp
I was not really happy with the amout of lift it had so i added 1 full trun to both collective linkages. I gain a huge amout of lift on the stick) i like it.

I also added a LiPo 3 cell bat and carbon blades .The heli is very smooths. money very well spent and the look very very cool.

on another note..

I still fly my CX2 it is a ball, i would tell anyone looking to learn heli to get 30+ hours on the CX2 first.

Now my borther and i add paper streamers on the tail of our CX and dog fight them in doors. The ideal is to cut off the streamer of the other heli, its a blast. and repairs are so cheap, at a buck a blade if ya crash its cheap. After many hours of dog fighting total repair cost on both heli's is under 30 buck.
We have a 6000 sq foot shop to play in with 20 ceilings its fun..
for me the initial investment in the CX was not a waste at all. i fly both

the only thing i cant get prefect on the cp is i have to set my rudder trim all the way to the left and i could use one more click on it. any ideals?

Hi
Thanks for the reply ArrowNaughtic

I am new to this so please bare with me..

That would be great if you can help me with the settings. I do have a 6xa futaba as well as the 8u so I can try them in both.

I tried to do the pm thing but it wouldnt let me.

Email is [email protected]

Have a good day

Hi, Has anyone installed the Spektrum DX7 in the Blade CP? I have been flying my CP with the stock radio but just wanted to up grade. I purchased a Futaba GY401 gyro, 10amp ESC, E-Flight 370 Inrunner motor and 3 cell LiPo. Could someone tell my how to do this conversion or point me in the right direction. I read an article in RC Heli from John Adams but the site the talked about has on info on the convertion.
Thanks
The Gee

Is your 3-in-1 trimmed correctly? You shouldn't have to be using rudder trim to fix that.

PM sent and i did recieve yours too.

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Any PPM (FM) Futaba TX can be used with the BCP or Pro. If yours is capable of PPM or PCM make sure it is programmed in PPM. You want to match the blade Rx crystal to the Tx, not the other way around. Tx's are specific to the frequency that they are tuned to and it is actually illegal to change the channel. Receivers on the other hand are not channel specific. The reason behind this is that if you fly around other RC planes or helis you can put out major interference to other fliers. I experienced this first hand. My son-in law and my radio both came on channel 17. My BCP was on 21 so I just put my BCP crystal in my 7C and went out to fly. His brand new $350 plane nose dived when he did a fly by. Luckily he was able to save it, but we learned our lesson. I sent my Tx in to Futaba and had the channel changed for 20 bucks.

HI guys, I haven't flown my Blade in a while an found some horrible results. I thought I'd burn a TP 910 in the back yard by doing some hovering and messing around. I found that my Blade was bouncing up and down and the tail was way out of place. I haven't flown the Blade for quite a while and it sat on the shelf. I played with th pots on the 4-1 and came to a marginal place of comfort. I think that the dust accumulation and low voltage in the transmitter had Everything to do with it. I went from having a great flying heli to a disaster waiting to happen. #1 The gain and trim pots work together, you can't change one without effecting the other. #2 make sure you have FRESH batteries in your transmitter. I was 5 feet away and saw first hand glitching, this radio system doesn't have a powerful connection. I admit I had low voltage batts in the transmitter though! With new batts in the transmitter and the antenna routed around the skids, I have never had any problems. Time get new Batts for the trans! I think I'll lube the shafted as well with some graphite. I'm pretty sure I saw some sticking as well.

Just My Thoughts, GOD Bless,

Jay

Hey Guys

I've been reading and not posting for
quite a while. I seen that bdavison is/was
on line while I am typing. Thank You bdavison.
I am hovering with some FF for whole pacs now lol.
I've upgraded from a CP to a Pro with DD tail and
G90 gyro. Still having a blast but Nose In hover
is slow coming. Imac782 (Chris) I've gone to
lipos now and have 4 pacs. Thanks to Chris, I
made it over the hump. Zooland how's the C 30 ?

Bob

dignlivn

I Put the new batts in the transmitter and put some graphite (pine wood derby dust) on the shaft and no more bouncing up and down. I think it was more likely that the new batts cured my problem. I did however get a bit to confident and had to ditch it to avoid hitting myself, once again. Only minor damage to the depron tail fin. I forgot how much fun this little heli can be!

God Bless!

Hello
Can anyone help.......................
I have had my cp pro for a month, had a few problems but the great peaple here have helped me out....

This time I have the two lights on my balance charger flashing (red and green) Is this telling me I need a new battery ????? Its only been charged I would guess 10 to 12 times and never run down low......
Hmmmmm how frustrating can this be.....

Can anyone advise me...

Thanks

Glen