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Old 01-18-2006 | 10:34 PM
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The pics are perfect. Thanks so much. Hopefully I'll have mine next week. Now at least I have a pretty good idea how it's set up.

I'll see if I can find the link. I read so many threads I can't remember where I saw it. But "I promise" I'll work on it.
Old 01-18-2006 | 10:49 PM
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Saw the web page and especially like the shogun page. The choppers not bad either. Where'd you come up with the name of the second horse? Netrifinitzer or something? My aunt and uncle in Ohio take care of 115 Persheron's by themselves. He's 78 and I think she's 70. Lot's of work.
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I hate the covering. I take it off every set of blades I purchase. Crap, it comes off on it's own if you even fart too close to it.

What I do is take the covering off and brush in a thin coat of 30 minute epoxy into the blades. You can use 5min but I like the 30min because it has more time to soak into the wood. I let them dry overnight and when it's cured They get sanded down. First I start with 240 grit, then 400, then 600, and finally 1000 grit paper and when they're finished up they're smooth as silk and look awesome.

Finally they get balanced.

With the epoxied blades, when you smack them up they're SOOOO much more durable. The wood will just dent in instead of breaking apart and flying everywhere. They're 1000X easier to repair and last A LOT longer. I've smacked around the set I'm using now at least 10 times (getting brave these days lol) and they blades are still in great shape, all due considering, and still track properly.
what kind of epoxy do you use??
and could you stain the wood black somehow??
Old 01-19-2006 | 09:02 AM
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Thanks for the kudo's....Whitney is my daughter (19). I caught her on her way out the door New Years eve and she posed with my scale shogun.

Those are Arabians except for the black one "Mountainhigh Enchantress"....she's a Morgan. Nefritiza is named after Nefertiti. Nefertiti was the wife of the Egyptian Pharaoh Amenhotep IV (later Akhenaten), and mother-in-law of the Pharaoh Tutankhamun. Her name roughly translates to "the beautiful one is come". She also shares her name with a type of elongated gold bead that she was often portrayed as wearing, known as "nefer" beads. Famed throughout the ancient world for her outstanding beauty, Nefertiti remains the one of the most well known Queen of Egypt. Though Akhenaten had several wives, Queen Nefertiti was his chief wife.

The web site was for my wife who ran for re-election but lost (thank god)....er....awww..that's too bad....he he
so the site is now perfect for posting pics and vids of heli's and horses and other more boring stuff the grandparents are interested in.
Old 01-19-2006 | 07:23 PM
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I just have no luck straightening them once they are bent. Does anyone have some tips on straightening them. Since the gear doesn't come off, its hard to roll on a flat surface so its tough to even find the bend.
If you have access to a lathe...I put it on the lathe and use a gauge to determine how it is out of whack and just bend it back in...I can actually get them straighter than new this way. Only downside...not everyone has access to a lathe whenever they want.
Old 01-19-2006 | 08:10 PM
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Hey

How are you guys doing. As you can tell Iam new to helis. How hard would it be for me to convert over from the stock transmitter to using to Futaba T7CAP. How much is there to it other than switching out the crystal. I am not sue if it would benefit me any or not.

Thanks Scott
Old 01-19-2006 | 08:45 PM
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Hey

How are you guys doing. As you can tell Iam new to helis. How hard would it be for me to convert over from the stock transmitter to using to Futaba T7CAP. How much is there to it other than switching out the crystal. I am not sue if it would benefit me any or not.

Thanks Scott
I prefer the 7C because I have control of the individual settings. Read back a few pages and you'll find a lot of info on where to start.
Old 01-19-2006 | 08:47 PM
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try here:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3777235
Old 01-19-2006 | 10:07 PM
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If anyone needs info, I converted to a JR 8103 Tx with GWS reciever. Much better.
Old 01-19-2006 | 11:37 PM
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Hi guys-- Have a relatively simple problem.

Converted to a Thunder 1320 Lipo for my blade which gives me more steady flying time than I can deal with in my small garage. The stock NiMgH only lasted 8-10 Min before it "died". I'm well into electronics, and do understand the LPo should not go below
9 Volts, Minium, under load, for fear of shortening its life or worse. The ESC in the blade does not have a Lo Voltage cutoff, as does the "usual" ESC's. I designed a simple circuit with a transistor, resistor, Zener diode, & LED (About $3-$4 total), which should shut off the LED at let's say 9.5 V, which is fine for my dimly lit garage, but don't think it'll be worth-while outside !!

Could use a tiny piezeo alert device, but probably too heavy for the blade. Will have a normal ESC on my T-Rex when I get it. Haven't fully perused the ads, and I know such devices exist for Nitro's.

Meantime, I keep, going & going & going and usually end up with about 11V(No Load) when I feel I should quit. Guess I could just time it but as simple as that is, it really isn't.

Any other ideas?

Lloyd
Old 01-20-2006 | 12:14 AM
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I feel like a n00b posting here (RC truck and sport airplane guy)

I'm still busy reading through this thread, but do the Blade CPs still have the issue with the tail motor burning out after about 10 flights?

Thanks
Old 01-20-2006 | 12:32 AM
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I have around 100 flights (give or take) on mine and am still using the stock motor. I should note, however, that it has recently drastically dropped in performance and I will be replacing it soon.

And darn it somone stole my avatar [&:]
Old 01-20-2006 | 12:39 AM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: futura

OK, Here are a few closeups the rest you can find on my website.[link=http://www.cindy4citycouncil.com/pages/15/index.htm]Here[/link]



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Futura,

Is that the parts you use on the other heli from the honey bee 2cp? did you have the main gear from honey bee on your?

Tom
Old 01-20-2006 | 01:03 AM
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Futura, does the E-sky rotor head handle better than the stock blade head? looking to make heli a little more stable or just a quicker input response. I see you can buy the whole CP2 bare bones for $70, thinking it may be better deal for back up parts and head ( if most fit BladeCP).

Old 01-20-2006 | 01:12 AM
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I recieved info about removing outer flybar weights to increase quicker response and faster head speeds, anyone try this yet? might try fri. after new landing gears R put on. Also heard you can install small 7.5 amp blade fuses to prevent killing 4-1 upon crash or volt spike.
Old 01-20-2006 | 06:55 AM
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yes !!! you can try moving them in all the way,, that works like EXPO on the radio if you take them off it's going to be more responsive,,I did take mine off and didn't really notice any difference,,, but I hd the CNC swashplate maybe that's why,, cause I noticed when I installed it it got a lot smother and a lot slower to roll or loop!!!!


IBrakeForNobody about the question on the Tail motor I flew the ehck out of my blade for like 1 month or so and never have problems with the tail motor and I probably got over 50 flights on it and it's a lot of flights becaUSE i FLY IT EVERYDAY with the 1320 for like 20 minutes at a time. i rencently upgraded it to the DD tail motor and it's a lot better smother and quiter!!!! it's probably the best upgrade you could do for the $$$
Old 01-20-2006 | 08:35 AM
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ORIGINAL: mustangflyboy

If anyone needs info, I converted to a JR 8103 Tx with GWS reciever. Much better.
If you have directions and pictures I would love to see them!
Old 01-20-2006 | 09:46 AM
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The Esky bell hiller head increases cyclic response dramatically. Its a completely different flying machine with the bell hiller head but the lightened flybar paddles did almost the same thing. Once I put on the BH head I removed the lightened paddles, it was just to touchy for my taste (ability to enjoy). BH heads are worth the $ if you can find one available. Getting a $70 hb2 "sounds" like a good idea but I doubt you will save money going this route (using the HB2 for spares) you don't break all the parts on a heli and the one's you do break don't cost $70 all together. The mainshaft and gear are seperate units on the HB2 and the main shaft is longer. you will then be stuck using the longer control arms. the landing gear are attached by screws so you'll be using the Esky frame and landing gear. the tail boom is glued to the frame so again you'll be swapping out frames if you break the tail boom.

If I were you with $70 to spend, I'd just add another $40 and get the CNC Bell hiller head.

my flybar weights came off after the first week. It did away with almost all of the cyclic delay found in the stock BCP. It doesn't make cyclic fast but its better. I found myself behind in control with the stock setup because I would apply input and it took the BCP a second or more to fully respond then if I over corrected because of the latency, my correction would take too long to apply and so on ie i ended up "chasing" it with the controls. This made it harder to hover inside 3 feet. Once you increase cyclic just a bit, the BCP reacts to your input right away....not a second (5 feet) later and allows you to "fly the heli" not the other way around.

There was not much difference in cyclic response between the lightened flybar paddles and the Bell hiller head without the lightened flybar paddles. The difference was not in cyclic but in how the bell hiller head smooths out the collective. By this I mean that if you can't get the Bell hiller head, get the lighted flybar paddles and you'll get the same cyclic result for the most part. I felt the increase in collective control was one of the biggest advantages of the bell hiller. I don't 3D yet but I have no doubt that with the flybar weights removed, the bell hiller head, the lighted flybar paddles, CF blades and 2200 - 2300 head speed (brushless)......the machine would flip almost in place...same with rolls. It is more unstable than my Duzi Hornet II....BUT....my heli really isn't a BCP anymore.

I'm not that great as far as thumbs go but getting better with time. Others that are better pilots may have different oppinions for sure. This is all just MHO based on observation and my own experience.

I guess my end point is, the BCP will fly very good with just a few changes in the stock configuration and a couple after market upgrades....like lightened paddles, sim blades, lipo battery and 9t motor. If you upgrade too much, your not working with a BCP anymore but a frankenchopper.
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ORIGINAL: hdoc

Hi guys-- Have a relatively simple problem.

Converted to a Thunder 1320 Lipo for my blade which gives me more steady flying time than I can deal with in my small garage. The stock NiMgH only lasted 8-10 Min before it "died". I'm well into electronics, and do understand the LPo should not go below
9 Volts, Minium, under load, for fear of shortening its life or worse. The ESC in the blade does not have a Lo Voltage cutoff, as does the "usual" ESC's. I designed a simple circuit with a transistor, resistor, Zener diode, & LED (About $3-$4 total), which should shut off the LED at let's say 9.5 V, which is fine for my dimly lit garage, but don't think it'll be worth-while outside !!

Could use a tiny piezeo alert device, but probably too heavy for the blade. Will have a normal ESC on my T-Rex when I get it. Haven't fully perused the ads, and I know such devices exist for Nitro's.

Meantime, I keep, going & going & going and usually end up with about 11V(No Load) when I feel I should quit. Guess I could just time it but as simple as that is, it really isn't.

Any other ideas?

Lloyd

[link=http://bladecprepair.com/smf/index.php?topic=40.0]DIY Lipo Alarm[/link]
Old 01-20-2006 | 10:13 AM
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ORIGINAL: futura

The Esky bell hiller head increases cyclic response dramatically. Its a completely different flying machine with the bell hiller head but the lightened flybar paddles did almost the same thing. Once I put on the BH head I removed the lightened paddles, it was just to touchy for my taste (ability to enjoy). BH heads are worth the $ if you can find one available. Getting a $70 hb2 "sounds" like a good idea but I doubt you will save money going this route (using the HB2 for spares) you don't break all the parts on a heli and the one's you do break don't cost $70 all together. The mainshaft and gear are seperate units on the HB2 and the main shaft is longer. you will then be stuck using the longer control arms. the landing gear are attached by screws so you'll be using the Esky frame and landing gear. the tail boom is glued to the frame so again you'll be swapping out frames if you break the tail boom.

If I were you with $70 to spend, I'd just add another $40 and get the CNC Bell hiller head.

my flybar weights came off after the first week. It did away with almost all of the cyclic delay found in the stock BCP. It doesn't make cyclic fast but its better. I found myself behind in control with the stock setup because I would apply input and it took the BCP a second or more to fully respond then if I over corrected because of the latency, my correction would take too long to apply and so on ie i ended up "chasing" it with the controls. This made it harder to hover inside 3 feet. Once you increase cyclic just a bit, the BCP reacts to your input right away....not a second (5 feet) later and allows you to "fly the heli" not the other way around.

There was not much difference in cyclic response between the lightened flybar paddles and the Bell hiller head without the lightened flybar paddles. The difference was not in cyclic but in how the bell hiller head smooths out the collective. By this I mean that if you can't get the Bell hiller head, get the lighted flybar paddles and you'll get the same cyclic result for the most part. I felt the increase in collective control was one of the biggest advantages of the bell hiller. I don't 3D yet but I have no doubt that with the flybar weights removed, the bell hiller head, the lighted flybar paddles, CF blades and 2200 - 2300 head speed (brushless)......the machine would flip almost in place...same with rolls. It is more unstable than my Duzi Hornet II....BUT....my heli really isn't a BCP anymore.

I'm not that great as far as thumbs go but getting better with time. Others that are better pilots may have different oppinions for sure. This is all just MHO based on observation and my own experience.

I guess my end point is, the BCP will fly very good with just a few changes in the stock configuration and a couple after market upgrades....like lightened paddles, sim blades, lipo battery and 9t motor. If you upgrade too much, your not working with a BCP anymore but a frankenchopper.
Can you elaborate a little on the "Lightened Paddles?" What are you referring to, removing the flybar weights or did you physically lighten the paddles?
Old 01-20-2006 | 10:51 AM
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a guy at the LHS drilled holes in his stock units and it improved things so I got these from Helihobby.



and this is what I'm refering to. $7.85

Take off the flybar weights and put these paddles on in place of the stock units.
Old 01-20-2006 | 11:04 AM
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Please don't get me wrong. These paddles are not doing the same thing as the bell hiller head other than making the cyclic response faster. These paddles increase cyclic response by making the heli less stable. The Bell hiller head increases cyclic response mechanically (reduces the percent of blade rotation needed to apply swash movement to the flybar). Lightening the flybar simply decreases the centrifical force (gyroscopic effect) and reduces over resistance of the blade "disk" to a change in attitude....thus cyclic response is quickened.
Old 01-20-2006 | 11:22 AM
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jakjr- I promise I didn't steal your avatar, just borrowed it. I wanted to pic the blade and this was the only one I could find. I'll probably take a pic of mine as soon as I can get someone out there to take it in flight. I had been using this one about a month before I saw yours on another thread.

mustangflyboy-please share how you got the 4-in-1 to positive shift. Inquiring minds want to know.

Ibrake....-there is less chance of burnout with a heatsink. It adds a little weight to the tail so you have to adjust CG, but it will save your motor. I have changed to the DD tail also, but the first thing I did was put the heat sink on the new motor. Also the motor for the DD is much larger, so the brushes don't get as hot in the first place.
Old 01-20-2006 | 11:44 AM
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mustangflyboy-please share how you got the 4-in-1 to positive shift. Inquiring minds want to know.

I believe he went to the JR tx and a GWS rx.
Thus bypassing the 4in1 neg shift rx.

You can pick up a GWS pos shift receiver for $20

[link=http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_info.php?cPath=16_110&products_id=384]http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_info.php?cPath=16_110&products_id=384[/link]
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Anyone with the Clearview Simulator- Ken's website now has 2 Blade CP models available, 1 with canopy and even 1 without canopy! Check it out. I can't wait to get home and try them out- these are very recently created models. Free downloads. Sim only costs $30.

http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/commun...eid=240236&ck=

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