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Old 12-27-2005 | 10:16 AM
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man this thing is cool. i also recieved one for xmas and just got into planes and aircraft at the end of last summer so i was itching to fly. and since it's freezing out i thought i'd get one of these. i got the training gear and crash kit and another set of blades. 1st battery just moped around the ground, second started hoving shortly and third battery trying to hover longer. i can keep it hovering but i run out of room and panic when it starts getting close to a wall, im in a 25'x25' garage. and i have gone through 3 batteries now and 2 set's of blades. i can't wait to get this out in a field.
Old 12-27-2005 | 10:55 AM
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ORIGINAL: redman7722

Just wanted to thank everyone who responded about the home-made training gear. I will be on it first thing tomorrow!

Got another question. Will switching to the carbon fiber blades, or the wooden aerobatic blades make the heli MORE or LESS unstable?

IMO flat bottom blades are more stable, but the carbon fiber blades will far out last them. 1 set of catbon blades $30, will replace oh say $105 of wooden ones.
I found the symmetrical blades to be easier to fly with than the flat-bottom blades. I found the with the flat-bottoms, when you messed with the right stick the heli would loose more altitude than with the symmetrical blades. I run my Blade with a TP 1320 mAh Lipo and the stock 10T motor/pinion combo.
Old 12-27-2005 | 01:03 PM
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I just purchased a Blade CP a couple of days ago. I am new to helis so I've had a few minor crashes. Now I have severe vibration. The paddles are level and I think the blades are tracking correctly so I don't think that is the cause. I do notice that the shaft looks warped if I'm viewing from the top and while power is about 1/3 . The arming / gyro light also blinks red and green very rapidly as soon as the copter lifts off.
Also, when I pitch left the rotation slows dramatically and it makes a pretty bad noise. Could the shaft be warped. I didn't think the crashes that I had were that bad. Thank you for any advise as I'm pretty bummed out.
Check out the large gear on the bottom of the shaft. I landed mine in idle up mode by mistake and it sheared off a couple of teeth making the unit vibrate. Easy to replace, comes as a whole unit with main shaft attached.
Old 12-27-2005 | 01:59 PM
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Thank you to all who responded to the severe vibration problem I mentioned having on my Blade cp. This forum is a huge comfort to me and I really appreciate you all.

Randy
Old 12-27-2005 | 05:12 PM
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shumaker:

You also should check the tracking of the blades. If you bend the shaft, chances are your tracking is off again too.
Old 12-27-2005 | 07:19 PM
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Well, it happened. One of these wonderful little bits of composite showed up under my Christmas tree! Finally got the nerve to at least see if the thing reponded to the radio and I'm pleased to say that it did.

Tail rotor seemed a bit twitchy, though. Also, the collective wanted to send the bird forward instead of up as I throttled up. I'm thinking I may have bumped it before the gyro set itself and I wasn't really trying to lift off anyway. Friend loaned me his training skids less two of the balls; plain old 40mm table tennis balls fixed the problem. I'm swinging by the hobby shop where he works after I get out of work myself later this evening. I'll take all the help I can get...this little eggbeater ain't an airplane!
Old 12-27-2005 | 07:55 PM
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does anyone know where to get the carbon fiber or fiber glass flat bottom main blades for the blade cp
Old 12-27-2005 | 08:32 PM
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here I got mine,, but really haven't noticed any difference from the wooden ones!!!!

well yes the difference is about $15 bucks!!!!!

http://www.helihobby.com/html/ESKY2.html
Old 12-27-2005 | 10:09 PM
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Has anyone else used a 7c futaba on the blade? I so does the revo mix have an effect? Is there a way to make the throttle cut work? I have tried with no success, really want it for idle up, Have only tried to get it to work in normal though.
Old 12-27-2005 | 11:45 PM
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Installed aerobatic kit motor & wood semi blades on my CP. I have only had a chance to hover indoors and the stock battery with the aerobatic kit seems very weak on power. My Blade required 3/4 throttle to hover, and the blades looked awfully high pitched in hover...... any comments? J B
Old 12-28-2005 | 12:04 AM
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Took mine out for the first time today. Was a blast, until I tried to loop without the idle-up engaged. [&o] Smacked the ground hard. One skid broken, and one blade damaged. First crash kit purchased, hope to take it out again tomorrow.

The only real complaint I have is that the collective pitch seemed not to be very stable. It seemed to jump up/down while hovering. While I was repairing it tonight, I inspected everything closely and noticed the left/right servos arms were not even, IOW with the swashplate horizontal, one servo arm was up and the other was down, the two linkages were not even close to the same length.

I also noticed the collective would increase/decrease pitch as I moved the cyclic left/right. The problem is that one servo is slower to respond than the other. If I move the stick slowly, no problem. I verified the problem is in the servo, I plugged both servos into a servo exerciser with a Y harness. They are Eflite EFLRS75 servos. I believe the problem existed before I first flew it, but can't say for sure it isn't crash damage. I'm going to replace the servo when I get a chance.

Bob R.


Old 12-28-2005 | 01:04 AM
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toprudder please post if that new servo fixes the problem mines been doing it since i took it out of the box.
Old 12-28-2005 | 09:26 AM
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It's been posted before and the RCU Review covers it...REMOVE the tab on the transmitter's collective control stick. This will help the up/down problem. Also, lube wear parts with silicone or Triflow.
Old 12-28-2005 | 12:23 PM
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Hey guys I just want to share another video we made with my Blade on Monday 26th,, I'm having a lot of fun with this little heli!!!!

Hope you like it!!!! I'm glad I didn't get one of those nasy glitches when I was doing touch and go on the swiming-pool!!!!

http://whiteknuckleairlines.com/imag...the%20pool.wmv
Old 12-28-2005 | 01:51 PM
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nice flying. A bit brave on hitting the water man.. would be a shame to have it short everything. I would have put something like a floating heli pad down.
Old 12-28-2005 | 02:12 PM
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I never even think of that really!!! next time I should put some of that Pink 1/2'' Foam from Home Depot and try landing it on TOP!!!!!

It would have been even better video if I would have had a glitch right there and I would have to swim to get it!!!! it was like 45 Degree!!!!
Old 12-28-2005 | 03:12 PM
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another recent owner of blade cp.
these forums are as much fun as the heli itself. i have had the heli for a couple of weeks. havent had much time to fly since it been raining here and the apartment is kinda small for this heli. i have tried flying it in the living room and it keeps bumping into things. Finlay had a clear evening and an hour to spend so took it out to the parking lot. trimmed it and got to flying. it is such a thrill (and no i couldnt really fly it but still it was thrilling). i managed to semi-hover it for a minute or so. on the third try i got it too high (like 10 feet, that is too high for me) and kinda lost control. went with the instincts and cut the throttle (not a great thing to do) the heli landed on the asphalt. one of the landing skids broke and the main shaft got bent. rushed to the LHS and got the parts. this is my first RC so didnt really have any experience with fixing these things. i must confess it was pretty easy. got it fixed within 15 minutes, tries it again in the apartment and it seems like it is almost vibration free. (earlier it had some vibration that i couldnt fix).
its funny but the crash was as exciting as the first flight i loved fixing the thing and i am much more confident now. i have refle xtr as wel but i must confess i only tried it once, i can see it being a great help but there nothing like trying to learn on the real thing. after all we are in it for the excitement? eh! arent we
Old 12-28-2005 | 05:16 PM
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Hey Char!
I just bought a Honeybee CP2 today and was wondering,how much experience do you have with helicopters because you're video made it look easy and I have NO experience,I do have 3 years RC airplane though.
I have Aerofly Pro FS that im practicing on.[]
Great show though!!![sm=lol.gif]
Old 12-28-2005 | 06:39 PM
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I had a strange "glitch" this AM. Hovering about 18 inces up, the motors stopped and the controls went hard-over left. The plane had not been crashed and the only damage has been to the plastic coating over the blades from hitting some leaves and stick which were on the driveway.

The bird was undamaged by the mishap, and when I reconnected the battery, the problem was still there...hard-over (full left roll) and neither motor active. Brought it inside, tried again, problem persisted. Waited an hour, problem gone. Flew again this afternoon without any problems. I did some fine-tuning on the gyro pots. My first heli experience (except for the glitching) has gone WAY better than I had even hoped it could.

Having fun with this little bird.

Enjoying the postings here.

Robert.

PS: Can anyone post some links to some videos of some "aggressive" flying? Thanks!
Old 12-28-2005 | 10:29 PM
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Hey Char!
I just bought a Honeybee CP2 today and was wondering,how much experience do you have with helicopters because you're video made it look easy and I have NO experience,I do have 3 years RC airplane though.
I have Aerofly Pro FS that im practicing on.[]
Great show though!!![sm=lol.gif]
Well I have been flying Planes for about 9 years now!!! but never helis only on the simulator!!! and I can fly up-side-down 2'' on the deck without problem but really didn't have any experience on real helis I'm still a newbie.

I Got my Blade CP on the 4th of December this year so I have been flying it for about 3 weeks now!!! before that I Flew for about 1 month the IKARUS Fun Piccolo Fixed Pich which now I think that helped me a lot with the blade because I now find it hard to fly,, the Fix pich Piccolo it's a lot harder to fly than the Blade.

So I got my blade and hover it for about 3 Days 'til I started to go foreward and finnaly made a turn and an 8,,,after that it was easy I think the worst part it's not getting confused when the helis is nose-in or facing you,,,, but I have been flying it like 1hr or more a day so I got a lot of practice and really don't get confused with it anymore.

I think it just practice,,, I did use the training gear for like 1 week even when I was flying in a circle and doing 8!!!!

SO far I have tried loops,,, but they are bad!!!! and rolls which are easier to do than a loop!!!!

Good luck with you Blade and have fun,,,, I'm having a blast with this little heli!!!! I think next one should be a Raptor 50SE
Old 12-29-2005 | 10:10 AM
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Finally spent a couple of minutes in a hover yesterday, (A MILESTONE FOR ME)! I was very excited, but flying it in the living room means I have little room for error, so anytime it started moving horizontally, I pulled back on the throttle...need decent weather for the park.

Anway, I upgraded the motor and put a 3-cell Li-Po battery on it, but am still flying with the flat-bottom blades. (LHS said they are much better for new pilots to learn to hover, etc). It made a significant difference in the handling of the heli, but it still seems pretty squirrely when in flight, mainly that the nose always wants to rotate, sometimes left and sometimes right. I adjust the tail rotor proportional setting and the trim on the radio and that helps, but is it normal for you to have to put continuous input on the stick to keep the tail pointed toward you during hovers?

On a side-note...when I took the heli back to the LHS for the upgrades and to ask some questions about set-up, the guy behind the counter flew my blade inside the store to check the 4-in-1 settings. I was thrilled to see it lift off, but holy cow he made it look so easy.... (Hovered in a space about 4ft by 6ft). Looking forward to the day I can do that!
Old 12-29-2005 | 03:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: charrua

Hey guys I just want to share another video we made with my Blade on Monday 26th,, I'm having a lot of fun with this little heli!!!!

Hope you like it!!!! I'm glad I didn't get one of those nasy glitches when I was doing touch and go on the swiming-pool!!!!

http://whiteknuckleairlines.com/imag...the%20pool.wmv

Nice flying......can you post pics of your boom support please?? I'm in the middle of trying to determine a light/sturdy solution....

Thanks!!
Old 12-29-2005 | 03:38 PM
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charrua,

Nice video! What do you have on the rotors? Is that just fluorecent orange tape? Looks very cool.
Old 12-29-2005 | 07:17 PM
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Finally spent a couple of minutes in a hover yesterday, (A MILESTONE FOR ME)! I was very excited, but flying it in the living room means I have little room for error, so anytime it started moving horizontally, I pulled back on the throttle...need decent weather for the park.

Anway, I upgraded the motor and put a 3-cell Li-Po battery on it, but am still flying with the flat-bottom blades. (LHS said they are much better for new pilots to learn to hover, etc). It made a significant difference in the handling of the heli, but it still seems pretty squirrely when in flight, mainly that the nose always wants to rotate, sometimes left and sometimes right. I adjust the tail rotor proportional setting and the trim on the radio and that helps, but is it normal for you to have to put continuous input on the stick to keep the tail pointed toward you during hovers?

On a side-note...when I took the heli back to the LHS for the upgrades and to ask some questions about set-up, the guy behind the counter flew my blade inside the store to check the 4-in-1 settings. I was thrilled to see it lift off, but holy cow he made it look so easy.... (Hovered in a space about 4ft by 6ft). Looking forward to the day I can do that!

the only way i found to keep the tail steady is to get the dd tail motor upgrade. I swear by it.
Old 12-29-2005 | 07:49 PM
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Definately a good upgrade....It's a completely different tail

ORIGINAL: redman7722

Finally spent a couple of minutes in a hover yesterday, (A MILESTONE FOR ME)! I was very excited, but flying it in the living room means I have little room for error, so anytime it started moving horizontally, I pulled back on the throttle...need decent weather for the park.

Anway, I upgraded the motor and put a 3-cell Li-Po battery on it, but am still flying with the flat-bottom blades. (LHS said they are much better for new pilots to learn to hover, etc). It made a significant difference in the handling of the heli, but it still seems pretty squirrely when in flight, mainly that the nose always wants to rotate, sometimes left and sometimes right. I adjust the tail rotor proportional setting and the trim on the radio and that helps, but is it normal for you to have to put continuous input on the stick to keep the tail pointed toward you during hovers?

On a side-note...when I took the heli back to the LHS for the upgrades and to ask some questions about set-up, the guy behind the counter flew my blade inside the store to check the 4-in-1 settings. I was thrilled to see it lift off, but holy cow he made it look so easy.... (Hovered in a space about 4ft by 6ft). Looking forward to the day I can do that!

the only way i found to keep the tail steady is to get the dd tail motor upgrade. I swear by it.


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