Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
06-20-2007 | 03:08 PM
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Hey crash............ I was lurking in the beginners section and came across this lil gadget. [link=http://www.fmadirect.com/Detail.htm?item=1770§ion=29]CoPilot for n00bs[/link]
I might get one for the TREX and the lil CPD4 for the HBK......if I ever get paid......... Pretty kewl the way these work, and the super system I linked to will also handle CCPM helis, concievably including the Blade CP's and Pros.... Interesting, now another thing to drool over....when does it end???
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Hey crash............ I was lurking in the beginners section and came across this lil gadget. [link=http://www.fmadirect.com/Detail.htm?item=1770§ion=29]CoPilot for n00bs[/link]
I might get one for the TREX and the lil CPD4 for the HBK......if I ever get paid......... Pretty kewl the way these work, and the super system I linked to will also handle CCPM helis, concievably including the Blade CP's and Pros.... Interesting, now another thing to drool over....when does it end???
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LOL....get some HELP....
06-20-2007 | 08:57 PM
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Choppersrule Here:
Had a few PM's asking where I was. I'm still alive and kicking. Just been so Flippin busy, working 45 to 50 hours a week. House maintenace and all. Plus, my IN-LAWS, will be speniding the next 2 or 3 weeks with me and the wife. (HMMMM)
Things are going good with the CP and the Trex, no problems at all... The Honey Bee King2, had 5 great flighs with it, very impressive, for the cost. Now I'm having a problem with it arming, the Gyro light keeps blinking and the tail servo doesn't move. Hmm, either a bad gyro or a bad servo.. Not a big deal, I'll get 'er fixed.
If anyone has questions on the Trex or Honey Bee King2, just PM me.. Just running out of heli time.
Dave / Choppersrule
Had a few PM's asking where I was. I'm still alive and kicking. Just been so Flippin busy, working 45 to 50 hours a week. House maintenace and all. Plus, my IN-LAWS, will be speniding the next 2 or 3 weeks with me and the wife. (HMMMM)
Things are going good with the CP and the Trex, no problems at all... The Honey Bee King2, had 5 great flighs with it, very impressive, for the cost. Now I'm having a problem with it arming, the Gyro light keeps blinking and the tail servo doesn't move. Hmm, either a bad gyro or a bad servo.. Not a big deal, I'll get 'er fixed.
If anyone has questions on the Trex or Honey Bee King2, just PM me.. Just running out of heli time.
Dave / Choppersrule
06-20-2007 | 09:39 PM
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RICK HERE :
I want to say up front that I have acquired a tremendous amount of admiration for all my Brothers ( Choppers - Arrow - Crash- Wnuk - Mike etc etc) those who have opened up and worked the innards of these BLADES. Today I , for the first time, opened and changed to a brushless motor, to an ESC, and tomorrow will also install the G-90 gyro, that you can see still in its case, in the picture. Now, what in the world do I do with these 4 miles of cables that have been added to the PRO ?
I hope my LUCK is still with me. The work is not easy, but definitely DO-ABLE..... Of course, there are VERY clear instructions in the Manual to follow...
I still follow the thread DAILY. Even from work. Now alone again, I got some modelling time back. And the best part : my Dr. has prescribed a med. name LYRICA and my constant back pain is totally in remission which means I can go through my day with ease once again. Used to be until last week, that all I could do was get home , shower and crash. Today, I worked the PRO for two hours.
YEAH...... Old age is DEFINITELY NOT FOR WIMPS OR WUSSIES....
Even JACK my feline buddy, almost took his hat off to honor my efforts !
I want to say up front that I have acquired a tremendous amount of admiration for all my Brothers ( Choppers - Arrow - Crash- Wnuk - Mike etc etc) those who have opened up and worked the innards of these BLADES. Today I , for the first time, opened and changed to a brushless motor, to an ESC, and tomorrow will also install the G-90 gyro, that you can see still in its case, in the picture. Now, what in the world do I do with these 4 miles of cables that have been added to the PRO ?
I hope my LUCK is still with me. The work is not easy, but definitely DO-ABLE..... Of course, there are VERY clear instructions in the Manual to follow...
I still follow the thread DAILY. Even from work. Now alone again, I got some modelling time back. And the best part : my Dr. has prescribed a med. name LYRICA and my constant back pain is totally in remission which means I can go through my day with ease once again. Used to be until last week, that all I could do was get home , shower and crash. Today, I worked the PRO for two hours.
YEAH...... Old age is DEFINITELY NOT FOR WIMPS OR WUSSIES....
Even JACK my feline buddy, almost took his hat off to honor my efforts !
06-20-2007 | 09:52 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
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RICK HERE :
I want to say up front that I have acquired a tremendous amount of admiration for all my Brothers ( Choppers - Arrow - Crash- Wnuk - Mike etc etc) those who have opened up and worked the innards of these BLADES. Today I , for the first time, opened and changed to a brushless motor, to an ESC, and tomorrow will also install the G-90 gyro, that you can see still in its case, in the picture. Now, what in the world do I do with these 4 miles of cables that have been added to the PRO ?
I hope my LUCK is still with me. The work is not easy, but definitely DO-ABLE..... Of course, there are VERY clear instructions in the Manual to follow...
I still follow the thread DAILY. Even from work. Now alone again, I got some modelling time back. And the best part : my Dr. has prescribed a med. name LYRICA and my constant back pain is totally in remission which means I can go through my day with ease once again. Used to be until last week, that all I could do was get home , shower and crash. Today, I worked the PRO for two hours.
YEAH...... Old age is DEFINITELY NOT FOR WIMPS OR WUSSIES....
RICK HERE :
I want to say up front that I have acquired a tremendous amount of admiration for all my Brothers ( Choppers - Arrow - Crash- Wnuk - Mike etc etc) those who have opened up and worked the innards of these BLADES. Today I , for the first time, opened and changed to a brushless motor, to an ESC, and tomorrow will also install the G-90 gyro, that you can see still in its case, in the picture. Now, what in the world do I do with these 4 miles of cables that have been added to the PRO ?
I hope my LUCK is still with me. The work is not easy, but definitely DO-ABLE..... Of course, there are VERY clear instructions in the Manual to follow...
I still follow the thread DAILY. Even from work. Now alone again, I got some modelling time back. And the best part : my Dr. has prescribed a med. name LYRICA and my constant back pain is totally in remission which means I can go through my day with ease once again. Used to be until last week, that all I could do was get home , shower and crash. Today, I worked the PRO for two hours.
YEAH...... Old age is DEFINITELY NOT FOR WIMPS OR WUSSIES....
Rick...looking at that, I'm thinking spagetti sauce is missing (LOL).
06-20-2007 | 10:21 PM
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haha looks like mine, outrunners are worse cause you can't have the wires anywhere near the spinny parts 
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I'll try to get a pic. Lost my canopy bar so been flying with the canopy off for a while. I think the dog got to it before I did.
DY
.I'll try to get a pic. Lost my canopy bar so been flying with the canopy off for a while. I think the dog got to it before I did.
DY
06-21-2007 | 06:42 PM
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Barrick My Friend, Chopper here with a few suggestions.
Ragu Spaghetti Sauce, it’s great. Just kidding of course.
Attached are a couple pictures of my spaghetti bowl too.
1) You can try and relocate the ESC, see picture of mine, with it on the back skids.
You would need to lengthen the wires from the motor to do this. In the box with the Park
Brushless, there should have been 3 small lengths of black wire, about 3 inches or so long. Also
should have contained 3 bullet connectors too. You’d have to cut off the existing connectors off
of the motor. Strip the wires (more soldering, Yuk-Yuk) and add the black wires to the motor.
Don’t forget heat shrink tubing on the solder joints. Then add the bullet connectors to the end of
the black wires.
2) Twist all the wires of the servos. Makes them less tangaley(if that’s a word) and also helps
reduce interference.
3) Spiral Wrap: Good stuff, easy to put on and holds the bundle of wires together nicely
Got mine at Wal-Mart, a buck 99, for 6 feet. Most auto stores should have it too, NAPA, Auto
Zone etc.
The pictures are old, one with the brushless and one without the brushless, but the ideas are the
same for both.
Keep it rockin’, Good luck and keep us posted on this Venture.
Love ya Rick,
Dave / Choppersrule
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Ragu Spaghetti Sauce, it’s great. Just kidding of course.
Attached are a couple pictures of my spaghetti bowl too.
1) You can try and relocate the ESC, see picture of mine, with it on the back skids.
You would need to lengthen the wires from the motor to do this. In the box with the Park
Brushless, there should have been 3 small lengths of black wire, about 3 inches or so long. Also
should have contained 3 bullet connectors too. You’d have to cut off the existing connectors off
of the motor. Strip the wires (more soldering, Yuk-Yuk) and add the black wires to the motor.
Don’t forget heat shrink tubing on the solder joints. Then add the bullet connectors to the end of
the black wires.
2) Twist all the wires of the servos. Makes them less tangaley(if that’s a word) and also helps
reduce interference.
3) Spiral Wrap: Good stuff, easy to put on and holds the bundle of wires together nicely
Got mine at Wal-Mart, a buck 99, for 6 feet. Most auto stores should have it too, NAPA, Auto
Zone etc.
The pictures are old, one with the brushless and one without the brushless, but the ideas are the
same for both.
Keep it rockin’, Good luck and keep us posted on this Venture.
Love ya Rick,
Dave / Choppersrule
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ORIGINAL: Barrrick
RICK HERE :
I want to say up front that I have acquired a tremendous amount of admiration for all my Brothers ( Choppers - Arrow - Crash- Wnuk - Mike etc etc) those who have opened up and worked the innards of these BLADES. Today I , for the first time, opened and changed to a brushless motor, to an ESC, and tomorrow will also install the G-90 gyro, that you can see still in its case, in the picture. Now, what in the world do I do with these 4 miles of cables that have been added to the PRO ?
I hope my LUCK is still with me. The work is not easy, but definitely DO-ABLE..... Of course, there are VERY clear instructions in the Manual to follow...
I still follow the thread DAILY. Even from work. Now alone again, I got some modelling time back. And the best part : my Dr. has prescribed a med. name LYRICA and my constant back pain is totally in remission which means I can go through my day with ease once again. Used to be until last week, that all I could do was get home , shower and crash. Today, I worked the PRO for two hours.
YEAH...... Old age is DEFINITELY NOT FOR WIMPS OR WUSSIES....
Even JACK my feline buddy, almost took his hat off to honor my efforts !
RICK HERE :
I want to say up front that I have acquired a tremendous amount of admiration for all my Brothers ( Choppers - Arrow - Crash- Wnuk - Mike etc etc) those who have opened up and worked the innards of these BLADES. Today I , for the first time, opened and changed to a brushless motor, to an ESC, and tomorrow will also install the G-90 gyro, that you can see still in its case, in the picture. Now, what in the world do I do with these 4 miles of cables that have been added to the PRO ?
I hope my LUCK is still with me. The work is not easy, but definitely DO-ABLE..... Of course, there are VERY clear instructions in the Manual to follow...
I still follow the thread DAILY. Even from work. Now alone again, I got some modelling time back. And the best part : my Dr. has prescribed a med. name LYRICA and my constant back pain is totally in remission which means I can go through my day with ease once again. Used to be until last week, that all I could do was get home , shower and crash. Today, I worked the PRO for two hours.
YEAH...... Old age is DEFINITELY NOT FOR WIMPS OR WUSSIES....
Even JACK my feline buddy, almost took his hat off to honor my efforts !
06-21-2007 | 07:25 PM
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DAVE thanks SO MUCH FOR THE GUIDANCE and particularly for the fotos. Right now I am about to discover whether I have followed the instructions correctly and if the whole pack of changes actually works. The Manual tells me to remove the blades before lighting up the system, I have to check the motor , correct direction of the spin, and after it works OK then install and connect (more Spaghetti ! )
the GYRO that you saw in the pic. I am gone from this house from 8am till 6pm. Coming back I have domestic chores, my back is a MESS after a day at the Computer, so perforce I have to go slow with the HOBBY. An OLD widowed, alone old phartt has a VERY though life, believe me. Thanks again, next report will be either VERY GOOD or AWFUL.......wait and see ! (grin)[&o]
the GYRO that you saw in the pic. I am gone from this house from 8am till 6pm. Coming back I have domestic chores, my back is a MESS after a day at the Computer, so perforce I have to go slow with the HOBBY. An OLD widowed, alone old phartt has a VERY though life, believe me. Thanks again, next report will be either VERY GOOD or AWFUL.......wait and see ! (grin)[&o]
06-21-2007 | 07:35 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
ORIGINAL: Barrrick
DAVE thanks SO MUCH FOR THE GUIDANCE and particularly for the fotos. Right now I am about to discover whether I have followed the instructions correctly and if the whole pack of changes actually works. The Manual tells me to remove the blades before lighting up the system, I have to check the motor , correct direction of the spin, and after it works OK then install and connect (more Spaghetti ! )
the GYRO that you saw in the pic. I am gone from this house from 8am till 6pm. Coming back I have domestic chores, my back is a MESS after a day at the Computer, so perforce I have to go slow with the HOBBY. An OLD widowed, alone old phartt has a VERY though life, believe me. Thanks again, next report will be either VERY GOOD or AWFUL.......wait and see ! (grin)[&o]
DAVE thanks SO MUCH FOR THE GUIDANCE and particularly for the fotos. Right now I am about to discover whether I have followed the instructions correctly and if the whole pack of changes actually works. The Manual tells me to remove the blades before lighting up the system, I have to check the motor , correct direction of the spin, and after it works OK then install and connect (more Spaghetti ! )
the GYRO that you saw in the pic. I am gone from this house from 8am till 6pm. Coming back I have domestic chores, my back is a MESS after a day at the Computer, so perforce I have to go slow with the HOBBY. An OLD widowed, alone old phartt has a VERY though life, believe me. Thanks again, next report will be either VERY GOOD or AWFUL.......wait and see ! (grin)[&o]
Good luck Rick (and me without my flak jacket[:@]) LOL...
06-21-2007 | 08:22 PM
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Barrick My Friend, Chopper here again:
VERY IMPORTANT... don’t forget to disable the Bec of the Brushless ESC... SEE page 54 in
your CP Pro Manual, the Top Picture. With your knowledge base and years of experience,
you’ll do just fine. And your ability to fly two planks at once, (mind like an elephant Yuk- Yuk).
If the motor spins the wrong way, just unplug any two leads from the ESC and reverse them.
Piece of Cake. Just take your time and do it right. I never get in a hurry, tomorrow is another day.
TIP: Just do one upgrade at a time. First the Brushless Motor and test fly it, if you are satisfied
with that, Then install the G90 Gyro. It makes trouble shooting much easier. If you install many
upgrades at the same time, it’s much harder to figure out what maybe in error..
Love Ya Rick,
Dave / Choppersrule
VERY IMPORTANT... don’t forget to disable the Bec of the Brushless ESC... SEE page 54 in
your CP Pro Manual, the Top Picture. With your knowledge base and years of experience,
you’ll do just fine. And your ability to fly two planks at once, (mind like an elephant Yuk- Yuk).
If the motor spins the wrong way, just unplug any two leads from the ESC and reverse them.
Piece of Cake. Just take your time and do it right. I never get in a hurry, tomorrow is another day.
TIP: Just do one upgrade at a time. First the Brushless Motor and test fly it, if you are satisfied
with that, Then install the G90 Gyro. It makes trouble shooting much easier. If you install many
upgrades at the same time, it’s much harder to figure out what maybe in error..
Love Ya Rick,
Dave / Choppersrule
ORIGINAL: Barrrick
DAVE thanks SO MUCH FOR THE GUIDANCE and particularly for the fotos. Right now I am about to discover whether I have followed the instructions correctly and if the whole pack of changes actually works. The Manual tells me to remove the blades before lighting up the system, I have to check the motor , correct direction of the spin, and after it works OK then install and connect (more Spaghetti ! )
the GYRO that you saw in the pic. I am gone from this house from 8am till 6pm. Coming back I have domestic chores, my back is a MESS after a day at the Computer, so perforce I have to go slow with the HOBBY. An OLD widowed, alone old phartt has a VERY though life, believe me. Thanks again, next report will be either VERY GOOD or AWFUL.......wait and see ! (grin)[&o]
DAVE thanks SO MUCH FOR THE GUIDANCE and particularly for the fotos. Right now I am about to discover whether I have followed the instructions correctly and if the whole pack of changes actually works. The Manual tells me to remove the blades before lighting up the system, I have to check the motor , correct direction of the spin, and after it works OK then install and connect (more Spaghetti ! )
the GYRO that you saw in the pic. I am gone from this house from 8am till 6pm. Coming back I have domestic chores, my back is a MESS after a day at the Computer, so perforce I have to go slow with the HOBBY. An OLD widowed, alone old phartt has a VERY though life, believe me. Thanks again, next report will be either VERY GOOD or AWFUL.......wait and see ! (grin)[&o]
06-21-2007 | 09:03 PM
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Crash, you ROCK[8D] I trimmed about 3/16ths off of the DD tail rotor blade, balanced it, and flew. The tail motor just got slightly warm, not hot like before. Now I need to put the 8t on because the Slo-max got a bit to hot. So...... are screeching noises bad when you throttle down[X(] Yeah that was bad. The motor seems to be running fine afterwards but Hobby-Sports.com has another Slo-max in stock just in case, I love those guys It does very well in my backyard, I guess we'll see how it does again in forward flight.
God Bless You All!
It does very well in my backyard, I guess we'll see how it does again in forward flight.God Bless You All!
06-21-2007 | 09:40 PM
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RICK : REPORTING
Great success...... with trembling hands (and without having removed the blades as the Manual advices) I turned on the TX and plugged in a 3 cell LIPO..... the 3-1 cycled normally, all the lights blinked right on queu and it armed correctly. SO " all my soldering did WORK WELL ! " The pinion seems to be working well, although , of course, it wasn't spooled up, just enough to see that the blades were spinning the wrong way. Shut down, reversed two connectors on the ESC, and now it works , apparently very well.
Tomorrow, if I get a good day, in the evening I will figure out how to finnesse the SPAGHETTI MESS, trying to copy Chopper's pictures.Then SuperSkids go back on the canopy and it should fly again Saturday early morning. We are having DEAD CALM days here in Houston, no wind at all...... And OK, I will hold off with the GYRO until I see that it flies well.
GOOD ADVICE !!! is always welcome... Thanks for the ENCOURAGING POSTS, brothers, It does me a lot of good, please believe this... Poor old man : Onward through the FOG..... Here is a pic that I just took on the moment of the first connection. You see the TX is on and the lights on the 3-1 are cycling. I was actually semi-expecting to photograph a LiPo EXPLODING.....or flames shooting up... sheeesh
So all seems to be OK
Great success...... with trembling hands (and without having removed the blades as the Manual advices) I turned on the TX and plugged in a 3 cell LIPO..... the 3-1 cycled normally, all the lights blinked right on queu and it armed correctly. SO " all my soldering did WORK WELL ! " The pinion seems to be working well, although , of course, it wasn't spooled up, just enough to see that the blades were spinning the wrong way. Shut down, reversed two connectors on the ESC, and now it works , apparently very well.
Tomorrow, if I get a good day, in the evening I will figure out how to finnesse the SPAGHETTI MESS, trying to copy Chopper's pictures.Then SuperSkids go back on the canopy and it should fly again Saturday early morning. We are having DEAD CALM days here in Houston, no wind at all...... And OK, I will hold off with the GYRO until I see that it flies well.
GOOD ADVICE !!! is always welcome... Thanks for the ENCOURAGING POSTS, brothers, It does me a lot of good, please believe this... Poor old man : Onward through the FOG..... Here is a pic that I just took on the moment of the first connection. You see the TX is on and the lights on the 3-1 are cycling. I was actually semi-expecting to photograph a LiPo EXPLODING.....or flames shooting up... sheeesh
So all seems to be OK
06-21-2007 | 10:20 PM
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Crash, you ROCK[8D] I trimmed about 3/16ths off of the DD tail rotor blade, balanced it, and flew. The tail motor just got slightly warm, not hot like before. Now I need to put the 8t on because the Slo-max got a bit to hot. So...... are screeching noises bad when you throttle down[X(] Yeah that was bad. The motor seems to be running fine afterwards but Hobby-Sports.com has another Slo-max in stock just in case, I love those guys It does very well in my backyard, I guess we'll see how it does again in forward flight.
God Bless You All!
Crash, you ROCK[8D] I trimmed about 3/16ths off of the DD tail rotor blade, balanced it, and flew. The tail motor just got slightly warm, not hot like before. Now I need to put the 8t on because the Slo-max got a bit to hot. So...... are screeching noises bad when you throttle down[X(] Yeah that was bad. The motor seems to be running fine afterwards but Hobby-Sports.com has another Slo-max in stock just in case, I love those guys
It does very well in my backyard, I guess we'll see how it does again in forward flight.God Bless You All!
Yeah (I'm all puffed up now), I did a good job with the DD and it worked great once I fixed all the other stuff that was wrong with it. I really enjoyed the authority of the DD tail and I flew it that way till I shipped it...It was still running strong and cool when it left. I did some awsome pirouetts and forward flight with the DD tail, it did great. BTW...I love the HBKII. I finally got the setup figured out and it's awsome. Even can tolerate 5-8mph winds with out a lot of effort. Stability...unmatched by anything I've ever flown. I'm officially out of the Eflite business....forever. Wheeeeeeeeee........HBKII
06-22-2007 | 05:56 PM
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This THREAD that ARROWNAUGHTIC inaugurated has been a real COMPANION for me and I want to post how much ENJOYMENT it has given me. It is SAD to see how transitory everything is in this world. Everybody has moved on to BIGGER and BETTER THINGS..... (as my first wife said in Divorce Court)..... I guess it's time to move on, myself. It bugs me that I never really did catch up with everybody. Still, I will not give up the EFlite Blades yet, just because I have never given them a REAL CHANCE. Paraphrasing here : DE BLADE HASS BIN BERRY BERRY GUD TO ME ! he! Thanks CHOPPERSRULE, AND CRASH-CRASH, WNUK, LOOKYJ, AND ALL THE OTHER BROTHERS. I hope y'all get to really FLY a radio Heli. I am now going to the workshop to make the PRO work. Sad., BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS THREAD HAS UP AND DIED.......sniff sniff........RICK
06-22-2007 | 06:12 PM
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Barrick MY Friend, Chopper Here AGAIN!
Congrats on the installation of the Brushless motor and ESC. I knew you could do it, with no problems.
Since the Brushless motor has way more torque and a ton more power, compared to the stock 370 motor.. TAKE TIME to readjust your proportional and gyro gain on the 3n1 controller. I think you'll be surprised at the POWER that motor has. Again, once you are satisfied with the performance of the new setup, (make several flights) then go ahead an install the G90 gyro.. Good instuctions in the manual for that too.
Love Ya Rick,
Dave / Choppersrule
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Congrats on the installation of the Brushless motor and ESC. I knew you could do it, with no problems.
Since the Brushless motor has way more torque and a ton more power, compared to the stock 370 motor.. TAKE TIME to readjust your proportional and gyro gain on the 3n1 controller. I think you'll be surprised at the POWER that motor has. Again, once you are satisfied with the performance of the new setup, (make several flights) then go ahead an install the G90 gyro.. Good instuctions in the manual for that too.
Love Ya Rick,
Dave / Choppersrule
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ORIGINAL: Barrrick
RICK : REPORTING
Great success...... with trembling hands (and without having removed the blades as the Manual advices) I turned on the TX and plugged in a 3 cell LIPO..... the 3-1 cycled normally, all the lights blinked right on queu and it armed correctly. SO " all my soldering did WORK WELL ! " The pinion seems to be working well, although , of course, it wasn't spooled up, just enough to see that the blades were spinning the wrong way. Shut down, reversed two connectors on the ESC, and now it works , apparently very well.
Tomorrow, if I get a good day, in the evening I will figure out how to finnesse the SPAGHETTI MESS, trying to copy Chopper's pictures.Then SuperSkids go back on the canopy and it should fly again Saturday early morning. We are having DEAD CALM days here in Houston, no wind at all...... And OK, I will hold off with the GYRO until I see that it flies well.
GOOD ADVICE !!! is always welcome... Thanks for the ENCOURAGING POSTS, brothers, It does me a lot of good, please believe this... Poor old man : Onward through the FOG..... Here is a pic that I just took on the moment of the first connection. You see the TX is on and the lights on the 3-1 are cycling. I was actually semi-expecting to photograph a LiPo EXPLODING.....or flames shooting up... sheeesh
So all seems to be OK
RICK : REPORTING
Great success...... with trembling hands (and without having removed the blades as the Manual advices) I turned on the TX and plugged in a 3 cell LIPO..... the 3-1 cycled normally, all the lights blinked right on queu and it armed correctly. SO " all my soldering did WORK WELL ! " The pinion seems to be working well, although , of course, it wasn't spooled up, just enough to see that the blades were spinning the wrong way. Shut down, reversed two connectors on the ESC, and now it works , apparently very well.
Tomorrow, if I get a good day, in the evening I will figure out how to finnesse the SPAGHETTI MESS, trying to copy Chopper's pictures.Then SuperSkids go back on the canopy and it should fly again Saturday early morning. We are having DEAD CALM days here in Houston, no wind at all...... And OK, I will hold off with the GYRO until I see that it flies well.
GOOD ADVICE !!! is always welcome... Thanks for the ENCOURAGING POSTS, brothers, It does me a lot of good, please believe this... Poor old man : Onward through the FOG..... Here is a pic that I just took on the moment of the first connection. You see the TX is on and the lights on the 3-1 are cycling. I was actually semi-expecting to photograph a LiPo EXPLODING.....or flames shooting up... sheeesh
So all seems to be OK
06-22-2007 | 06:18 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
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This THREAD that ARROWNAUGHTIC inaugurated has been a real COMPANION for me and I want to post how much ENJOYMENT it has given me. It is SAD to see how transitory everything is in this world. Everybody has moved on to BIGGER and BETTER THINGS..... (as my first wife said in Divorce Court)..... I guess it's time to move on, myself. It bugs me that I never really did catch up with everybody. Still, I will not give up the EFlite Blades yet, just because I have never given them a REAL CHANCE. Paraphrasing here : DE BLADE HASS BIN BERRY BERRY GUD TO ME ! he! Thanks CHOPPERSRULE, AND CRASH-CRASH, WNUK, LOOKYJ, AND ALL THE OTHER BROTHERS. I hope y'all get to really FLY a radio Heli. I am now going to the workshop to make the PRO work. Sad., BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS THREAD HAS UP AND DIED.......sniff sniff........RICK
This THREAD that ARROWNAUGHTIC inaugurated has been a real COMPANION for me and I want to post how much ENJOYMENT it has given me. It is SAD to see how transitory everything is in this world. Everybody has moved on to BIGGER and BETTER THINGS..... (as my first wife said in Divorce Court)..... I guess it's time to move on, myself. It bugs me that I never really did catch up with everybody. Still, I will not give up the EFlite Blades yet, just because I have never given them a REAL CHANCE. Paraphrasing here : DE BLADE HASS BIN BERRY BERRY GUD TO ME ! he! Thanks CHOPPERSRULE, AND CRASH-CRASH, WNUK, LOOKYJ, AND ALL THE OTHER BROTHERS. I hope y'all get to really FLY a radio Heli. I am now going to the workshop to make the PRO work. Sad., BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS THREAD HAS UP AND DIED.......sniff sniff........RICK
We're just onto a different heli. HAD my CP-Pro run like it did when I shipped it outta here when I got it...I'd stuck with it. Man, it flew great. Doing high hovers, pirouetts, pattern flying...it flew great, AFTER I SOLD IT. You gotta see this Honeybee King v2...it's awsome all the way around. I can't afford a T-Rex but this is the next best thing to it. I've already ordered a brushless upgrade and threw a 1250mha 10C battery in it. This heli is just plain WORTH upgrading. I feel bad this thread is dying too but I hope the ties I made here will last. You, Arrow, Choppers, Wunk, LookyJ, all the rest....my band of brothers. Maybe we didn't go into combat together...but it's been a hellish nightmare and I would have quit this had it not been for these guys listening to me whine and helping me out. It's also summer...so the inputs will slow down some. In this thread there is the biggest compilation of knowlege/experience of the Eflite CP and CP-Pro ever put to print. WE WROTE THE BOOK on the Blade CP and the CP-Pro. You also know you can PM me any time...I still have the largest working knowlege of this heli that I can share with others.
06-22-2007 | 06:52 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
Barrick My Friend, Chopper Again
Rick,
The thread is slowing down, but I don't think it will die, lot's of good guys here.
We are all a bunch of OLD KIDS, that want this or want that, maybe this is better and I'll try it. Hmmm, that's no good, I'll get something else. I'm probably one of the worst offenders, I've had about 10 different helicopters in the last 18 months and still not sure.
I've mentioned before, that the technology advances so rapidly, like computers. By the time you buy one it's outdated.
Rick, as Crashcrash mentioned, we will ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU, whenever I see you post a problem, you're the first I reply too.
Sorry guys, Rick and I, are the old pharts, and we have to stick together. I know you guys will understand that.
Just jot down, all of the members screen names, like crashcrash, wnuk, lookyj, arrownaugtic and a host of others. OOOPs, choppersrule too.
If you EVER need any help or advise, just send us a PM and we would be thrilled to help you out.
We all love ya Rick, God Bless You,
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Rick,
The thread is slowing down, but I don't think it will die, lot's of good guys here.
We are all a bunch of OLD KIDS, that want this or want that, maybe this is better and I'll try it. Hmmm, that's no good, I'll get something else. I'm probably one of the worst offenders, I've had about 10 different helicopters in the last 18 months and still not sure.
I've mentioned before, that the technology advances so rapidly, like computers. By the time you buy one it's outdated.
Rick, as Crashcrash mentioned, we will ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU, whenever I see you post a problem, you're the first I reply too.
Sorry guys, Rick and I, are the old pharts, and we have to stick together. I know you guys will understand that.
Just jot down, all of the members screen names, like crashcrash, wnuk, lookyj, arrownaugtic and a host of others. OOOPs, choppersrule too.
If you EVER need any help or advise, just send us a PM and we would be thrilled to help you out.
We all love ya Rick, God Bless You,
Dave / Choppersrule
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ORIGINAL: Barrrick
This THREAD that ARROWNAUGHTIC inaugurated has been a real COMPANION for me and I want to post how much ENJOYMENT it has given me. It is SAD to see how transitory everything is in this world. Everybody has moved on to BIGGER and BETTER THINGS..... (as my first wife said in Divorce Court)..... I guess it's time to move on, myself. It bugs me that I never really did catch up with everybody. Still, I will not give up the EFlite Blades yet, just because I have never given them a REAL CHANCE. Paraphrasing here : DE BLADE HASS BIN BERRY BERRY GUD TO ME ! he! Thanks CHOPPERSRULE, AND CRASH-CRASH, WNUK, LOOKYJ, AND ALL THE OTHER BROTHERS. I hope y'all get to really FLY a radio Heli. I am now going to the workshop to make the PRO work. Sad., BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS THREAD HAS UP AND DIED.......sniff sniff........RICK
This THREAD that ARROWNAUGHTIC inaugurated has been a real COMPANION for me and I want to post how much ENJOYMENT it has given me. It is SAD to see how transitory everything is in this world. Everybody has moved on to BIGGER and BETTER THINGS..... (as my first wife said in Divorce Court)..... I guess it's time to move on, myself. It bugs me that I never really did catch up with everybody. Still, I will not give up the EFlite Blades yet, just because I have never given them a REAL CHANCE. Paraphrasing here : DE BLADE HASS BIN BERRY BERRY GUD TO ME ! he! Thanks CHOPPERSRULE, AND CRASH-CRASH, WNUK, LOOKYJ, AND ALL THE OTHER BROTHERS. I hope y'all get to really FLY a radio Heli. I am now going to the workshop to make the PRO work. Sad., BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS THREAD HAS UP AND DIED.......sniff sniff........RICK
06-22-2007 | 09:05 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
THANKS SO MUCH CHOPPER R. I really needed to hear all that. I am going through a very hard time here. Losing the buddy-feeling of this thread just added bad vibes. I am really really LOW. Just got up from the workbench the PRO is almost totally back on BUT for the first time one of the blades spins lower, This is nothing I had to do before....soo.....went to the MANUAL and it seems to be VERY CLEAR how to adjust pitch except that , although I know the parts involved, can't figure out how it goes to make them longer or shorter, or how to disconnect them, or which of the two corresponds to the lower blade..... sheeeesh to think I used to have a BRAIN !!!!
So sorry to be a DRIP..... it's just that I have come to the time to scatter my wife's ashes in the GULF and it's tearing me apart.
If you know how to help it will be great. All the other stuff seems to be going great. THANKS DAVE.........
her is a pic. of the PRO coming back together.
RICK----------------------------------------------------------PS : Just went around snooping and discovered that CRASH CRASH and ARROW are in the KING 2 thread and CRASH CRASH is having the same kind of problems with that new Heli as he was having with the BLADES in this thread......OOOHH NOOOO ! they went away, started NEW and back into the same swamp.......I really feel for poor ole VIC....what IS the matter with his NoLuck up in Michigan........I am now VERY SAD
So sorry to be a DRIP..... it's just that I have come to the time to scatter my wife's ashes in the GULF and it's tearing me apart.
If you know how to help it will be great. All the other stuff seems to be going great. THANKS DAVE.........
her is a pic. of the PRO coming back together.
RICK----------------------------------------------------------PS : Just went around snooping and discovered that CRASH CRASH and ARROW are in the KING 2 thread and CRASH CRASH is having the same kind of problems with that new Heli as he was having with the BLADES in this thread......OOOHH NOOOO ! they went away, started NEW and back into the same swamp.......I really feel for poor ole VIC....what IS the matter with his NoLuck up in Michigan........I am now VERY SAD
06-22-2007 | 09:33 PM
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Rick this is the clearest pick of the CPP head i could find. Ignore the stuff on the right, the part you need to adjust is in the yellow circle. It just pops off and give a half turn or so(remember mark which side you pull off) if it gets better continue process until satisfied if not turn the opposite direction.
06-22-2007 | 09:34 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
hey there rick, no reason to fret =)
do you have tracking tape on the blades so you know which one is lower?
what you do is figure out which blade it is, and then follow it down to the blade grip. Whichever miver arm is hooked up to the blade grip, you're gona loosen the screw probably about 1 to 1.5 turns and then pop off the link. If the blade is low then you are going to turn the link so it is longer, and if the blade is high, then you are going to turn it so the link gets shorter. Hopefully that will help =)
I also noticed that the HBK seems to be having some troubles as well =(
Sorry about how you're feeling, i hope you get feeling better soon =) Maybe getting the chopper back in the air will let you have some fun and get your mind of things for a while =) I'll help however I can, and I'm sure there are many more that will also =)
do you have tracking tape on the blades so you know which one is lower?
what you do is figure out which blade it is, and then follow it down to the blade grip. Whichever miver arm is hooked up to the blade grip, you're gona loosen the screw probably about 1 to 1.5 turns and then pop off the link. If the blade is low then you are going to turn the link so it is longer, and if the blade is high, then you are going to turn it so the link gets shorter. Hopefully that will help =)
I also noticed that the HBK seems to be having some troubles as well =(
Sorry about how you're feeling, i hope you get feeling better soon =) Maybe getting the chopper back in the air will let you have some fun and get your mind of things for a while =) I'll help however I can, and I'm sure there are many more that will also =)
06-22-2007 | 09:38 PM
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As for me, I am really excited!!! I just got of an 11min flight with the stock pack, zooming all over, climbouts, FFF, some side in slow flight, and flying higher than I've ever been, prolly around 60' or so. Man I can't believe the difference in battery packs.
I have 2 csrc 1250mAh packs like arrow does, and the heli kinda just puts around on those, and get's about 15 min of flight. On the stock pack I am getting 11 min of really quite aerobatic type flight, and much cooler motor temps. On the csrc packs I am getting pretty close to +50, and on the stock pack I just got off a flight with the main motor 118, and the ambient around 85, WOW! what a difference =) This is what heli flying should be like =) For the first time today the battery temp was actually warmer than the motor temp, ok, so only about 1 degree, but hey =)
I have 2 csrc 1250mAh packs like arrow does, and the heli kinda just puts around on those, and get's about 15 min of flight. On the stock pack I am getting 11 min of really quite aerobatic type flight, and much cooler motor temps. On the csrc packs I am getting pretty close to +50, and on the stock pack I just got off a flight with the main motor 118, and the ambient around 85, WOW! what a difference =) This is what heli flying should be like =) For the first time today the battery temp was actually warmer than the motor temp, ok, so only about 1 degree, but hey =)
06-22-2007 | 10:01 PM
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Crash, you ROCK[8D] I trimmed about 3/16ths off of the DD tail rotor blade, balanced it, and flew. The tail motor just got slightly warm, not hot like before. Now I need to put the 8t on because the Slo-max got a bit to hot. So...... are screeching noises bad when you throttle down[X(] Yeah that was bad. The motor seems to be running fine afterwards but Hobby-Sports.com has another Slo-max in stock just in case, I love those guys It does very well in my backyard, I guess we'll see how it does again in forward flight.
God Bless You All!
Crash, you ROCK[8D] I trimmed about 3/16ths off of the DD tail rotor blade, balanced it, and flew. The tail motor just got slightly warm, not hot like before. Now I need to put the 8t on because the Slo-max got a bit to hot. So...... are screeching noises bad when you throttle down[X(] Yeah that was bad. The motor seems to be running fine afterwards but Hobby-Sports.com has another Slo-max in stock just in case, I love those guys
It does very well in my backyard, I guess we'll see how it does again in forward flight.God Bless You All!
Also what tail prop are you guys using? The square bladed one or the narrow tapered one. I use the narrow (which has a little less grab) and never have any probs with the tail getting real hot. If you are having to trim the square one you may just want to concider running the other prop in the first place.
Hey theradioflyer, God Bless You & your hobby store! I am jelious my lhs are more like the Wal-mart toy isle just with worse inventory....[
], Noah
06-22-2007 | 10:12 PM
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Barrick My Freind, Chopper Here Again!
I understand about having to scatter your wife's ashes. I had to do the same thing with my Brother (Age 51), August of 2006.
It's a very difficult thing to do, however we have to go on. Time, hopefully, heals all wounds.
Pitch on the Pro: The others gave your the clue, pop off the pitch control link and turn it clockwise (to shorten) or counter clockwise (to lengthen) . Mark one blade, so that you know which one you are adjusting and keep adjusting that blade up or down.
Attached is a picture I found on the web of the Bell Hiller. It's pretty clear, hope this helps ya.
Love ya Rick, God Bless
Dave / Choppersrule
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I understand about having to scatter your wife's ashes. I had to do the same thing with my Brother (Age 51), August of 2006.
It's a very difficult thing to do, however we have to go on. Time, hopefully, heals all wounds.
Pitch on the Pro: The others gave your the clue, pop off the pitch control link and turn it clockwise (to shorten) or counter clockwise (to lengthen) . Mark one blade, so that you know which one you are adjusting and keep adjusting that blade up or down.
Attached is a picture I found on the web of the Bell Hiller. It's pretty clear, hope this helps ya.
Love ya Rick, God Bless
Dave / Choppersrule
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ORIGINAL: Barrrick
THANKS SO MUCH CHOPPER R. I really needed to hear all that. I am going through a very hard time here. Losing the buddy-feeling of this thread just added bad vibes. I am really really LOW. Just got up from the workbench the PRO is almost totally back on BUT for the first time one of the blades spins lower, This is nothing I had to do before....soo.....went to the MANUAL and it seems to be VERY CLEAR how to adjust pitch except that , although I know the parts involved, can't figure out how it goes to make them longer or shorter, or how to disconnect them, or which of the two corresponds to the lower blade..... sheeeesh to think I used to have a BRAIN !!!!
So sorry to be a DRIP..... it's just that I have come to the time to scatter my wife's ashes in the GULF and it's tearing me apart.
If you know how to help it will be great. All the other stuff seems to be going great. THANKS DAVE.........
her is a pic. of the PRO coming back together.
RICK----------------------------------------------------------PS : Just went around snooping and discovered that CRASH CRASH and ARROW are in the KING 2 thread and CRASH CRASH is having the same kind of problems with that new Heli as he was having with the BLADES in this thread......OOOHH NOOOO ! they went away, started NEW and back into the same swamp.......I really feel for poor ole VIC....what IS the matter with his NoLuck up in Michigan........I am now VERY SAD
THANKS SO MUCH CHOPPER R. I really needed to hear all that. I am going through a very hard time here. Losing the buddy-feeling of this thread just added bad vibes. I am really really LOW. Just got up from the workbench the PRO is almost totally back on BUT for the first time one of the blades spins lower, This is nothing I had to do before....soo.....went to the MANUAL and it seems to be VERY CLEAR how to adjust pitch except that , although I know the parts involved, can't figure out how it goes to make them longer or shorter, or how to disconnect them, or which of the two corresponds to the lower blade..... sheeeesh to think I used to have a BRAIN !!!!
So sorry to be a DRIP..... it's just that I have come to the time to scatter my wife's ashes in the GULF and it's tearing me apart.
If you know how to help it will be great. All the other stuff seems to be going great. THANKS DAVE.........
her is a pic. of the PRO coming back together.
RICK----------------------------------------------------------PS : Just went around snooping and discovered that CRASH CRASH and ARROW are in the KING 2 thread and CRASH CRASH is having the same kind of problems with that new Heli as he was having with the BLADES in this thread......OOOHH NOOOO ! they went away, started NEW and back into the same swamp.......I really feel for poor ole VIC....what IS the matter with his NoLuck up in Michigan........I am now VERY SAD
06-22-2007 | 10:17 PM
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As for me, I am really excited!!! I just got of an 11min flight with the stock pack, zooming all over, climbouts, FFF, some side in slow flight, and flying higher than I've ever been, prolly around 60' or so. Man I can't believe the difference in battery packs.
I have 2 csrc 1250mAh packs like arrow does, and the heli kinda just puts around on those, and get's about 15 min of flight. On the stock pack I am getting 11 min of really quite aerobatic type flight, and much cooler motor temps. On the csrc packs I am getting pretty close to +50, and on the stock pack I just got off a flight with the main motor 118, and the ambient around 85, WOW! what a difference =) This is what heli flying should be like =) For the first time today the battery temp was actually warmer than the motor temp, ok, so only about 1 degree, but hey =)
As for me, I am really excited!!! I just got of an 11min flight with the stock pack, zooming all over, climbouts, FFF, some side in slow flight, and flying higher than I've ever been, prolly around 60' or so. Man I can't believe the difference in battery packs.
I have 2 csrc 1250mAh packs like arrow does, and the heli kinda just puts around on those, and get's about 15 min of flight. On the stock pack I am getting 11 min of really quite aerobatic type flight, and much cooler motor temps. On the csrc packs I am getting pretty close to +50, and on the stock pack I just got off a flight with the main motor 118, and the ambient around 85, WOW! what a difference =) This is what heli flying should be like =) For the first time today the battery temp was actually warmer than the motor temp, ok, so only about 1 degree, but hey =)
Guys that are really ripping it up with this heli are flying even small and lighter packs than the stock pack.
Well tuned and properly setup this heli is very capable.
If You haven't ssen this: [link]http://www.raymondstacy.com/pics/bladecppro31107.wmv[/link]
Its a must watch. its like someone zapped there trex with a shrink ray.
Check it out, Noah
06-22-2007 | 10:35 PM
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RE: Wheeeeeeee.......... Blade CP!
ORIGINAL: Barrrick
THANKS SO MUCH CHOPPER R. I really needed to hear all that. I am going through a very hard time here. Losing the buddy-feeling of this thread just added bad vibes. I am really really LOW. Just got up from the workbench the PRO is almost totally back on BUT for the first time one of the blades spins lower, This is nothing I had to do before....soo.....went to the MANUAL and it seems to be VERY CLEAR how to adjust pitch except that , although I know the parts involved, can't figure out how it goes to make them longer or shorter, or how to disconnect them, or which of the two corresponds to the lower blade..... sheeeesh to think I used to have a BRAIN !!!!
So sorry to be a DRIP..... it's just that I have come to the time to scatter my wife's ashes in the GULF and it's tearing me apart.
If you know how to help it will be great. All the other stuff seems to be going great. THANKS DAVE.........
her is a pic. of the PRO coming back together.
RICK----------------------------------------------------------PS : Just went around snooping and discovered that CRASH CRASH and ARROW are in the KING 2 thread and CRASH CRASH is having the same kind of problems with that new Heli as he was having with the BLADES in this thread......OOOHH NOOOO ! they went away, started NEW and back into the same swamp.......I really feel for poor ole VIC....what IS the matter with his NoLuck up in Michigan........I am now VERY SAD
THANKS SO MUCH CHOPPER R. I really needed to hear all that. I am going through a very hard time here. Losing the buddy-feeling of this thread just added bad vibes. I am really really LOW. Just got up from the workbench the PRO is almost totally back on BUT for the first time one of the blades spins lower, This is nothing I had to do before....soo.....went to the MANUAL and it seems to be VERY CLEAR how to adjust pitch except that , although I know the parts involved, can't figure out how it goes to make them longer or shorter, or how to disconnect them, or which of the two corresponds to the lower blade..... sheeeesh to think I used to have a BRAIN !!!!
So sorry to be a DRIP..... it's just that I have come to the time to scatter my wife's ashes in the GULF and it's tearing me apart.
If you know how to help it will be great. All the other stuff seems to be going great. THANKS DAVE.........
her is a pic. of the PRO coming back together.
RICK----------------------------------------------------------PS : Just went around snooping and discovered that CRASH CRASH and ARROW are in the KING 2 thread and CRASH CRASH is having the same kind of problems with that new Heli as he was having with the BLADES in this thread......OOOHH NOOOO ! they went away, started NEW and back into the same swamp.......I really feel for poor ole VIC....what IS the matter with his NoLuck up in Michigan........I am now VERY SAD
Dont let yourself get yourself down. Its always Wheeeeeeeeeee........ Blade CP. R.C.'ing is always good fun and always brings good friends.
As far as your rotor head. If it helps I use the 3 servo arms that connect to the swash to adjust the overall pitch. Make them shorter to increase your max pitch, longer to decrease it.
Then I use the small adjustable links that go from the mixing arm to the paddle frame to make small pitch adjustments to a single blade for tracking. If I forget if I want that individual blade to track higher or lower I just grab the mixing arm and lift the blade grip up & down to get my wits about again. If that link is made shorter the associated blade will track lower. & vive versa.
There are some well pictured instructions here: [link]http://www.bladecprepair.com/man_mr_setup_and_adjustment#tracking[/link]
& a cool little whack the paper meathod of seeing clearly which blade is higher or lower.
No bad vibes here bud! Its all LOVE brother.
Noah
