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01-13-2019, 11:48 AM
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Jim, I get all most of my small tools here. But only since 1990: https://www.micromark.com/
if I can't buy everything I need at one store I will be making 2 orders
Jim
01-13-2019, 11:51 AM
Jim, I get all most of my small tools here. But only since 1990: https://www.micromark.com/
Wholesale Tool is more of a full size industrial tool supplier. They sell from micro to massive tools and machinery. There are quite a few places like that in the Detroit area. Wholesale tool also has a huge, walk in showroom where you can actually demo the machinery and tooling before buying. Not sure how long they have been around, certainly longer than my 50 years in the metal trades.
Last edited by Jesse Open; 01-13-2019 at 06:02 PM.
01-13-2019, 11:57 AM
01-13-2019, 11:58 AM
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that must be the 71 inch'er, I know some company make one around 56 inches, if there was a kit around 64 inches I would buy that kit, what Saito is that, the 100 ??
Jim
01-13-2019, 02:17 PM
Saw a Harley once that was about the same color
01-14-2019, 02:37 AM
And hopefully it's parked way down the back of the shed behind a few benches.See,it's lookin at that green that put's a man off celebrating st paddys day,even if it is only once a year.
01-14-2019, 02:49 AM
Until you pointed this out, I had been blaming beer.
Now that you mentioned the green thing, it does seem to play!
01-14-2019, 05:13 AM
I learned to fly on an LT40, nice flyer Dave. Sadly I dumb thumbed it while flying inverted, or so I thought. Bought a Hobbystar 60 from a club member to replace it and range checked the RX from the crashed LT40 and all was good, so I thought. Full throttle on takeoff, nice rollout, airborne and then NOTHING, no control, full throttle to 400 ft, stall and full throttle into the ground. Turns out the series smt resistor in the antenna circuit was lifted off its pad so extending the antenna after the range check did nothing to raise signal strength! Lessons learned: Never reuse a crashed rx and always set up fail safe.
Sadly, I had just gotten one of my rebuilt Saito 62s broken in and it was slated to ride on the LT40 that week. I still contest that I dumb thumbed the LT40, I think maybe the resistor popped loose while I was flying it that day.
Lonnie
Sadly, I had just gotten one of my rebuilt Saito 62s broken in and it was slated to ride on the LT40 that week. I still contest that I dumb thumbed the LT40, I think maybe the resistor popped loose while I was flying it that day.
Lonnie
Last edited by Glowgeek; 01-14-2019 at 05:31 AM.
01-14-2019, 05:36 AM
It would seem an open connection in the antenna input should show up as GREATLY reduced range during the collapsed tx antenna range check ??? The collapsed TX antenna would likely not show up at CLOSE range but it should severely impair the walkout range, well below the normal.
01-14-2019, 05:40 AM
It would seem an open connection in the antenna input should show up as GREATLY reduced range during the collapsed tx antenna range check ??? The collapsed TX antenna would likely not show up at CLOSE range but it should severely impair the walkout range, well below the normal.
01-14-2019, 05:56 AM
I range test with antenna down until control is lost completely. I then extend the TX antenna and walk out at least half again that distance.
BTW, Here is a pic of my kit bashed Senior Kadet. The fuse was bashed to look like an LT-40. Reduced dihedral and huge ailerons (Spoileron actuated) added to the wing. The OS .61 2 stroke was replaced with an OS Surpass 90 right after this pic was taken. Great flying plane!
01-14-2019, 06:08 AM
BTW, Here is a pic of my kit bashed Senior Kadet. The fuse was bashed to look like an LT-40. Reduced dihedral and huge ailerons (Spoileron actuated) added to the wing. The OS .61 2 stroke was replaced with an OS Surpass 90 right after this pic was taken. Great flying plane!
01-14-2019, 07:53 AM
ARF? Nope, not this one
Kit wing, scratch fuselage. Minimal plywood. No laser cutting.
I bought the very first Senior Kadet to arrive at our LHS when they were first released. Placed a standing order about a month before Sig shipped the first batch out.
Built it straight up but substituted lighter balsa in many of the sheeted areas. Three channel, rubber band wing attach. Covered with the very light EconoKote. Very light, first flew on an open rocker Saito 30. Replaced that with a Saito 50 and years later, a Saito 62. That plane lived a very hard life for over thirty years with quite a few repairs and a couple re-cover jobs.
Finally retired that old plane early last year. Building another right now. Same way, three channel, rubber band wing attach. Same colors too! White and orange.
This one will have a YS 53 on the nose, my first 4 stroke YS ,still runs like new. Great power, light weight . Plus I can put a HUGE fuel tank on board for some very long flights.
Kit wing, scratch fuselage. Minimal plywood. No laser cutting.
I bought the very first Senior Kadet to arrive at our LHS when they were first released. Placed a standing order about a month before Sig shipped the first batch out.
Built it straight up but substituted lighter balsa in many of the sheeted areas. Three channel, rubber band wing attach. Covered with the very light EconoKote. Very light, first flew on an open rocker Saito 30. Replaced that with a Saito 50 and years later, a Saito 62. That plane lived a very hard life for over thirty years with quite a few repairs and a couple re-cover jobs.
Finally retired that old plane early last year. Building another right now. Same way, three channel, rubber band wing attach. Same colors too! White and orange.
This one will have a YS 53 on the nose, my first 4 stroke YS ,still runs like new. Great power, light weight . Plus I can put a HUGE fuel tank on board for some very long flights.
Last edited by Jesse Open; 01-14-2019 at 08:44 AM.
01-14-2019, 08:16 AM
What Saito twin is equal to a 50CC gas? What are the dimensions for it? Still haven't come up with THE powerplant for the Ziroli P-61 future build. Still working on the B-25, have the blank plug for the cowl mold ready, just need to get an arbor for it so I can put it in my drill press and turn it to shape. The ready made fiberglass cowl for the Z B-25 is not to scale, too flat at the nose, the real one has more curve to it.
When I had the FG-11 in the T-Clips, I could get an hour flight time out of it, haven't seen how long the LT-40 can fly with it, I think it only had an 8 or 10 ounce tank, and more drag than the T-Clips, so won't get near as long a flight time.
When I had the FG-11 in the T-Clips, I could get an hour flight time out of it, haven't seen how long the LT-40 can fly with it, I think it only had an 8 or 10 ounce tank, and more drag than the T-Clips, so won't get near as long a flight time.
01-14-2019, 09:21 AM
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hey Guys, taking about antennas here. one time I was out flying my 30 size Heli, I was still a newbee, so I was only flying around and looping, well I lost control, and the Heli just started flying around in about a 20ft circle. I started yelling "guys I lost control-I lost control" people started running, one guy dove under a truck, the Heli came down and hit the ground a good 100ft away from the pits, well that was the last time I ever used a plug in antenna. you see I had cut the antenna in a not so bad crash, so I had this short plug in antenna I got in a trade, sO, I used it, what could go wrong LOL, that was some 16 years ago,
this post should have an ionic smile posted in it, well I was out flying with my JR 9303, I had been flying for about half the tank, the ShoeString was out a good 200 ft in a not so large banked turn, and I heard from behind me "hey Jim, you going-na pull out your antenna",, LOL oop's, I straightened and leveled my plane rather quickly and pulled out the antenna,, yes yes I know, I was very lucky (as I have been told a few times) and so was every one else at the field day
Jim
this post should have an ionic smile posted in it, well I was out flying with my JR 9303, I had been flying for about half the tank, the ShoeString was out a good 200 ft in a not so large banked turn, and I heard from behind me "hey Jim, you going-na pull out your antenna",, LOL oop's, I straightened and leveled my plane rather quickly and pulled out the antenna,, yes yes I know, I was very lucky (as I have been told a few times) and so was every one else at the field day
Jim
01-14-2019, 11:29 AM
Ouch,
Similar theme: When starting my plane, I pick up the transmitter, pull out the antenna, then turn the TX on. Programmed HABIT. Last year, my buddy was helping, he flies 2.4 giggle hurts radios. Well he picked up my TX to "help" while distracted me was talking to another fellow and fueling up my Astro Hog. Well, he manned the sticks while I flipped the engine to life. I sat the plane down, he handed me the TX. I taxied out took off to about 10 ft off the ground and made a high speed return pass across the back of the field .Came back around about 6 feet off the deck down the center of the field and started a turn to go out a ways further and higher. Lost it. The antenna was down and I figured that out about 2 fett before piling in. I really liked that plane but the next HOG will be a bipe .
From now on, I will take care of the TX. First time that happened in almost 50 years. It will not happen again!
Similar theme: When starting my plane, I pick up the transmitter, pull out the antenna, then turn the TX on. Programmed HABIT. Last year, my buddy was helping, he flies 2.4 giggle hurts radios. Well he picked up my TX to "help" while distracted me was talking to another fellow and fueling up my Astro Hog. Well, he manned the sticks while I flipped the engine to life. I sat the plane down, he handed me the TX. I taxied out took off to about 10 ft off the ground and made a high speed return pass across the back of the field .Came back around about 6 feet off the deck down the center of the field and started a turn to go out a ways further and higher. Lost it. The antenna was down and I figured that out about 2 fett before piling in. I really liked that plane but the next HOG will be a bipe .
From now on, I will take care of the TX. First time that happened in almost 50 years. It will not happen again!
01-14-2019, 12:02 PM
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Ouch,
Similar theme: When starting my plane, I pick up the transmitter, pull out the antenna, then turn the TX on. Programmed HABIT. Last year, my buddy was helping, he flies 2.4 giggle hurts radios. Well he picked up my TX to "help" while distracted me was talking to another fellow and fueling up my Astro Hog. Well, he manned the sticks while I flipped the engine to life. I sat the plane down, he handed me the TX. I taxied out took off to about 10 ft off the ground and made a high speed return pass across the back of the field .Came back around about 6 feet off the deck down the center of the field and started a turn to go out a ways further and higher. Lost it. The antenna was down and I figured that out about 2 fett before piling in. I really liked that plane but the next HOG will be a bipe .
From now on, I will take care of the TX. First time that happened in almost 50 years. It will not happen again!
Similar theme: When starting my plane, I pick up the transmitter, pull out the antenna, then turn the TX on. Programmed HABIT. Last year, my buddy was helping, he flies 2.4 giggle hurts radios. Well he picked up my TX to "help" while distracted me was talking to another fellow and fueling up my Astro Hog. Well, he manned the sticks while I flipped the engine to life. I sat the plane down, he handed me the TX. I taxied out took off to about 10 ft off the ground and made a high speed return pass across the back of the field .Came back around about 6 feet off the deck down the center of the field and started a turn to go out a ways further and higher. Lost it. The antenna was down and I figured that out about 2 fett before piling in. I really liked that plane but the next HOG will be a bipe .
From now on, I will take care of the TX. First time that happened in almost 50 years. It will not happen again!
LOL sorry, I just had to make funny
Jim
01-14-2019, 12:35 PM
Many of us built our own radios back then
There was a time when an amateur radio license was mandatory to operate RC
There was a time when an amateur radio license was mandatory to operate RC
Last edited by Jesse Open; 01-14-2019 at 12:41 PM.
01-14-2019, 03:02 PM
Lol, great stories, although losing a plane is never a happy time. So I was ready for my first solo and my instructor says, "It's your turn now to go to the pilots box and my turn to carry the plane out to the taxiway", Ok I say. So I'm standing there in the pilots box studying the windsock, the lumps I need avoid in the runway, the position of the sun and waiting for my plane to show up and nothing. Where's my instructor with my plane? Standing back at bench next to the plane with his arms folded. So I scoot over there and ask him, "When were you planning on bringing my plane out?" He responds with a gentle but authoritative voice "When were you planning on raising the antenna?"
Last edited by Glowgeek; 01-14-2019 at 03:22 PM.
01-14-2019, 04:35 PM
OK so check this out. I glued together a bunch of pieces of 1 inch foam insulation board, cut it into a cylinder, put 3/4" plywood disks in the center of both ends, and got a 3/8" carriage bolt as an arbor. Then picked up some files and rasps and gave it a try. It worked, too well, I took way too much off! LOL Suppose I can work the rough shape still, and then layer some body filler until I reach the correct diameter and go from there.
To keep it steady while spinning on the drill press I took one of the bearings from the Saito I rebuilt and used that on the head end of hte bolt and raised the table to put a little pressure on it, worked like a charm. Now to figure out how to get the filings off of me, they has some cling.
To keep it steady while spinning on the drill press I took one of the bearings from the Saito I rebuilt and used that on the head end of hte bolt and raised the table to put a little pressure on it, worked like a charm. Now to figure out how to get the filings off of me, they has some cling.