That's one I never heard of. Sure they aren't Eagles? Can you provide a pic?

CR

hi charley, the hawk .60 was quit a bit different than the eagle, case was diff. the cyl., sleave had fins and sat on top of case with long bolts thru head/cyl. schurnal(?) ported red anodized head red anodized prop drive. the eagle was non-schural induction and all parts were natural alumium. the hawk had a great deal more power and higher revs. if you check back thru thread you'll see one or 2 of these. also the eagle cyl. was typical sleave pressed into case w/ rather short head blts. of the 2 engines the eagle was sold in greater numbers the eagle sold for more $. i had several eagles and only 1 hawk and i was so impressed w/hawk i now have 4 and am in process of rebuilbing them. parts are hard to come by thou.

Man! I thought I knew something about Fox engines. I did some Googling and learned a little. Saw some pics of the early Eagle and the Hawk. Noticed the early Eagle has one boost port and the Hawk has two. That Explains why the Hawk made more horses.
Ran across the manual for the Hawk. It said examples of that engine had been run up 25,000 RPM with no damage! Hot damn! Well, learn a little something every day.

I wonder if the old -time pattern guys (can't remember what they call themselves) could help you on the rods.

CR

I was aware of the Fox Hawk series, but always thought of them as being a less powerful, cheaper version of the Eagle.

IIRC, the Hawk was a plain bearing engine.

I'm surprised to learn that it was more powerful than the Eagle. I wonder why Duke didn't power up the Eagle to help it sell better?


Ed Cregger

hi charley, i had a hawk in an old EZ PILOT folk wolf .40 w/rftracts. it out flew a lot of planes, handled sssoooo nice, looked so cool w/gear up and fast and low over weeds. the eng hand started super easy, a tick over idle w/perry carb. got too low on dry lake, cought prop and muffler ripped it out of fw broke mounting lug out of eng. i now have 4 of these hawks but parts are very hard to come by. they have been out of production for year now. fox said they may have a rod or two. i'll send them a sample. mine are slopy on the crank pin and they rattle a bit. can any point to link that i can down load complete manual and parts break down, mite help fox i.d. rods thanks guys for any help

ed, the hawk was an up graded, if you will, actully a different eng. you mit be thinking of the late model eagle eng. not to be confused with old style eagle. fox dropped old eagle and hawk sers. engs., retooled and can up w/late model eagles .60/.74s, still in production. they have gone thru many mods. especilly because of nitro availiblity thru out the years. the hawk would definitly out run the old eagles for sure, owned both. the hawk had ball brg, supported crank, ringed piston. 1 great engine

To the best of my recollection, the Hawk and the original Eagle came out in the late Sixties or early to mid Seventies. Eventually, Tower Hobbies began selling the baffle piston equipped Eagle as their housebrand engines. I don't recall seeing the Hawk around at that later time. I could be confusing the Hawk series with the older .59 series too.

I'm a baffle piston Eagle fan. Mine have ran without problems. I can't say the same for the later editions of Fox Eagles that utilized schneurle porting. Head button problems and the like. I do not consider myself knowledgable in the geneaology of the various Fox engine lines.


Ed Cregger

hi ed, the hawk .60 and baffled eagles where avaible at the same time. i bought my hawk and a couple of .60 eagles at about the same time. even ordered and bought 2 eagles that came equiped with a perry carb. on it. the eagles run good but the my hawk would blow them into the weeds but then the hawk was schrual ported non baffled piston type. best dang eng i ever owned

I do remember them being available at the same time, as you have stated.

I did not know that the Hawk was schneurle ported. Thanks for that info. I love keeping up with the old Fox "Motors" (as he used to call them). IIRC, the early date of the appearance of the Hawk series would make Fox one of the first manufacturers to offer a regular production engine with the schneurle ported format. True?


Ed Cregger

well ed, now your testing my memory. i think supertigre, os and a few others where offering them also. h.b. was offering pdporting on their engs. clearance lee would pdp k&b engs. enya i believe had sch. ported engines back in the 70's too. all this kind of runs together time wise for me. lots of water under the ol' brige so to speak!

I meant to say "American Manufacturer" to offer schneurle porting. Oh well.

The first schneurle ported engine I remember seeing run was a four-bolt HP 10cc two-stroke. That was in 1969 or 70, IIRC.


Ed Cregger

The Fox Hawk was first advertised just after the HP was released. I have heard it said it was sold before the HP, but if so it was sold before the ads came out. I think there was another bird named engine, a Falcon maybe, that some are confusing with the Hawk.