Hi guys. My son is just reaching 8 years old and he is starting to take interest in my long loved hobby (RC). I have had alot of Nitro and Electric RC's. Planes, boats, monster trucks, cars, and micro RC's. I have an LST2 that I am selling because, first I would need to buy another LST2 for us to have matching trucks and we live in kind of a quite neighborhood. So Just to make sure he was interested I bought us a couple of Mini Quakes. We raced on the sidewalk and in the parking lot alot and had lots of fun. So I wanted to step it up a little for us, so I got a couple of MLST's. Those were alot of fun also but we both wanted something a little bigger. So I am looking for a couple of E_maxx's and while on my search I learned of the new E-Savage and E-Zilla. I would really rather have two E-Maxx's and I want to make sure they are the widemaxx editions and I would really like to get new ones with the new EVX-2 esc's. But I have alot of stuff I need to sell first. So while trying to sell or trade off some of my stuff I ran across a guy that has both a E-Maxx and an E-Zilla for trade. He says the E-Zilla is basically the same as the E-Savage. But I know there has to be some difference but I don't know what it is. So Please help me. I need to know what the difference is. This guy is under the impression that the parts are interchangeable, but I just read in another forum that they are not. Just the bodies and wheels are. What can you guys tell me about the two? Also I am trying to figure out why the E-Zilla is not on the HPI USA sight.
Thanks for anyhelp you can give.

Have you tried in the Electric forum, or general MT??

Sorry I don't know much about them, but I'm assuming the E-Savage will be tougher just from it's great reputation here..

the e-savage is a very nice MT from HPI, alot of people love it... the only downside to it is, that the charger is only good for filling the bats up to about 80%[&o]

the e-zilla came out first from hot bodies, hpi took it over so all the major manufacturers would start making performance parts, there both 99% identical, the only diff is the diff's and the name.

Thanks pythonfan,
Now we are getting somewhere. So now the question is, will the after market diffs fit the E-Zilla? Are they interchangeable?

yes.

hpi had a problem with the stock e-savage diffs, hot bodies used a diff kind and were a lot better, hpi i think released the new harden diffs for the e-savage.

X2. Technically the same trucks, but with different bading. If you want the latest and greatest, get the E Savage.

yes and no to that Q, because one of my freinds on here Jucdvpr got the e-savage and it broke on him every other day.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5524798/tm.htm

and his truck to show the size
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5579065/tm.htm

Thanks guys, this is a lot of help. So with this info I am to belive that the diffs are interchangeable right?

yes, for e-zilla to e-savage or e-savage to e-zilla.

yes they are interchangeable, but if your talking about a savage diff in a ESav/zil, No

Gotcha, but it would have helped if you would have said, nitro Savage diff in a ESav/zil, no
Now I am having a hard time deciding. Should I get the E-Maxx and the E-Savage this guy has or should I just get his E-Maxx and get another E-Maxx from somewhere else. Remeber this is for my son and I to be matched up pretty good for yard bashing.

well the maxx is more known, but the e-savy is rtr, it has batteries charger, etc.. vs. maxx u need batteries charger etc..

the savage out of the box is faster, and stronger IMO easier to work on, i have jumped mine like crazy, the only thing i had a problem was the shock end gaps popped off the screw and would cause it to bottom out, but other then that nothing, and if you wan, i will look on tower, the have a plug to cut it down from 2x 7.2v-8.4v to just one battery, so he can learn on it, unless he already has driven RC.

There both equally good, in there own ways.

If you could find one i would say the twin force but there hard to fine, thats an rc mt that would last.

Thanks and my apologies, I meant E-Zilla, but it may still be the same answer. And yes my son is pretty good at driving. He has driven my LST2 and my old T-Maxx 2.5 and mini quakes and MLST's.

Since Hot Bodies is a subsidiary of HPI (HPI created Hot Bodies or acquierd it so Atsushi Hara can manage and run it), I am wondering why did HPI take e-zilla away from HB? Why not put the advertiseing to E-Zilla like it does for E Savage now?

well how i see it, and many other did, is because there are no after marker parts for hot bodies cars, only hot bodies offers a few option parts, so hpi took it over called it the e-savage, so companies like rpm integ pro-line etc.. would start making parts for the truck.

I heard it was because Hot Bodies wanted to focus on making the competition-level cars and HPI wanted to make the fun / sport cars. Since the E-Zilla was a fun car, they transferred it to HPI. Also, Hot Bodies have now discontinued every single fun car in their range, leaving only the competition cars there.

If that is HPI's plan, I hope they consider letting Hot Bodies have a go with the Savage X as far as making a race version of one. The Savage X has potential to become a racer with some redesigning (surprisingly, not much is needed). Afterall, the Savage is a 1:9 scale in its true size.

Yeah, since they used to make the Truckzilla .46, Truckzilla Sport, and Truckzilla Big Twin Kit (which are all now discontinued), they might make a Truckzilla Race Kit or something.

That is an excellent idea! A Savage RaceZilla kit for the monster truck class racing. I hope HPI is reading this.

THanks for all the help guys I really appreciate it.
I am also wondering what the motor turn limit is on the stock esc? Like would it handle the Trinity Monster Max Wild or Pro motors? Also do you know what the E-Maxx EVX will handle?

Ummm won't the E-zilla have longer TVPs than the E-savage. much like their nitro counterparts. This would mean that 90% of the truck is interchangable with the other, just the drive shafts linking the diffs together (front to mid and mid to rear) would be different, due to the 1/2 inch difference in chassis length. Maybe a few othe choice upgrades, but essentially the same thing.

Being an HPI fan I'd get 2 E-savages. TVP chassis is the way to go if you want to bash

What is TVP? and does anyone know what the motor turn limit is on the stock esc on the E-Zilla, E-Savage and E-Maxx?

TVP means Twin Vertical Plate, a chassis design from which two alimnimum plates, on on the left side and one on the right, are the primary structural members of the chassis.

As for a limiter, I do not know. If you want to override the limiter, you would have to chunk the stock ESC and get an aftermarket one. The reason why HPI would put a limiter on the ESC (if it even has a limiter) is to prevent nobs from driving way too fast and cause a wreck and/or burning up the motors.

TVP=Twin Vertical Plate (chassis design using left and right plates as chassis structural members) thanks savage Jim for this.

the ezilla can handle down to a 12T the traxxas 12T 550 is nothing for it, the 12T 540 size can motors get the esc warm, so a small fan is nice to keep it cool. the evx, or the new evx i guess it can Handel less cause all i have seen is 19t 550, so i dunno on that part.

a nice upgrade is the air screw motors from tower, give it a nice 3-5mph gain, with out losing any power, i believe its a 19t, the stock is 20+ something.

most of the cheap motors out there drop in to the e-savy, and, there a video some where, from a guy who bought 2 motors for his ezilla/savy for 8bucks each and were 2x better then stock.

also the stock e-savage/zilla esc is programmable to set how much power it gets. and has a built in fan plug.