hey tes . just read your post .
nice to meet you . anyways on the plan it shows a side view of the fuselage and in parrenticies it says (side broken away for clarity ) on the push rod set up drawing .so all my formers stay .i will for sure add weight accordingly . its all good , i shall be having flapperons for landings so thats my only weight issue i really am adressing for the time being .
these horror stories of tail feathers failing must come to an end and it starts now, tabs in for now.

keep building

My Tiger 60 has not had the rear fuselage side panels removed and yet it wasn't hard to balance. I don't think whether you leave the sides solid or remove the panels will matter much from this point of view but I do think it makes a difference to the strength and rigidity . If you are flying off grass I would recommend that you use wheels of at least 3 inch diameter in fact mine are 3 1/4 Dubro light weight . The model taxies and tracks well on takeoff even on uneven surfaces.
Tim

i agree. big wheels are nice . in fact did i mention my field is not level. so usually i go with big 5 inch wheels or 6 for a long run on grass .including bumps, the fuse sides are staying and ill post pics once the fuse and tail feathers are glued up in place .until then ciao

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One more question if you all don't mind-

The plans call for 2 degrees down thrust and 2 degrees right thrust. I have read elsewhere that some folks use small washers under he motor mount screws to accomplish this, with one washer being about one degree of movement.

Does that sound about right? Are there other ways to get the proper thrust angle? Can the thrust angle be readily measured.

Again, thank you all for the help you have provided.

Larry-

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Larry,

You shouldn't need the washers. I believe the kit already builds in the right and down thrust.


Tom

I agree with Tom that the appropriate thrust angle should be built in . To check though once you have the motor mounted put the prop on and have a look from above with the prop set at 9 o'clock/3 o'clock. the prop should be slightly angled to the right of the plane in other words the tip on the left side should be a bit further forward than the right. Repeat the procedure from the side with the prop at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. In this case the top of the prop should be little further forward than the bottom. In both instances the amount is small but noticeable perhaps a few millimeters. Sorry to be a bit vague about this but ti really isa "best guess situation". In the event that the amount of down or right thrust proves to be too great or too little on test flight then washers as packing between the mount and the firewall can be used to correct. If there was no down or right thrust built into the firewall ( as determined by the checks detailed above ) then start with say 3 washers (about 2-3 millimeters total distance off the firewall ) behaind the top left engine mounting bolt and 1-2 washers behind the bottom left. the plane will fly perfectly well if you don't have this right but better if you do. Strongly suggest you have the test flight made by an experienced pilot who can advise not only on whether the thrust is correct but other issues as well. You can get caught out. For example I recently finished building a 12 foot span giant Telemaster ( from a Hobby Lobby kit) powered by a Zenoah G62 gas engine. I have been building and flying R/C models for 30 years and had thoroughly ( I thought ) checked this model over before taking it to the field. As is my usual practice I asked a trusted and experienced fellow modeller at the field to do a pre flight check and test fly it . I always find this works better for initial sorting out as I'm always too nervous. He pointed out to me that I had the ailerons reversed! A beginners mistake which would have proved disastrous. In Australia models weighing over 7kg (approx 15 lbs ) are classified as heavy models and have to be inspected and certified as safe to fly by authorised inspectors. This model had been inspected twice before going to the field by the inspector and he missed the reversed ailerons as well.
Don't assume anything check and then check again.

hey mothy gday mate, i was in oz like ten years ago it was great drank alote of vb and xxxx beer, here in cleveland there is like three feet of snow i hope u are enjoying your summer down under .just checking in .

Hi Lonestoner,
I live in the subtropics in Australia ( Queensland ) on the coast. Never any snow here but Queensland is the home state of xxxx beer.
Tim

can some one please tell me how much dehidral is needed for the tiger 60 .
all my dehidral jigs are bowed ,and are extremley un user friendley to use .to say the least . i plan on laying one wing on the table and lifting the other half up but how much is my question .with much thanks lonestoner

Lonestoner,
My wing is 72 inch span and with one side flat on a table and measuring from mid point of the leading edge spar or alternatively from the trailing edge, the high wing (the one off the table ) is 3 inches higher at the tip. Hope that helps Tim

hey tim , so my understanding is that, at the raised wing tip,from table to bottom of tip is 3 inches . or am i mistaken ?

For what it's worth, I chopped my dihedral down to where one wingtip is on the table, the other is about one inch off the table.


Tom

Lonestoner,
Sorry I wasn't clear . As the wing is semi symmetrical this is a bit tricky. If you place one wing on a flat surface ( table ) on the main spar which in my wing is 3 1/2 inches back from the leading edge, the wing tip of the high wing measured from the table to the centre of the wing tip ( meaning to the balsa tip that atteches to the last rib to form the rounded wing tip again 3 1/2 inches back from the leading edge ) is 3 inches. I doubt that this is critical and the model may perform some manoeuvres better with a little less dihedral as Tom has done. Certainly I wouldn't put in more than 3 inches.
Tim

thanks guys i appreciate the help so i can move foward on the build . pics are on the way .

hey guys . got my wing together, working on the cap strips now. all is good .

Hi there,
I have read this thread from start to finish. I am going to order a Tiger 60 in Sept. as my second plane. Is this thread continued somewhere else, or where did everyone go? I'd like to find an active thread of Tiger 60 builders.

Can someone help? I'm computer challenged!!

Cheers.

Hi Willym,
I too am computer challenged . As I indicated in an earlier post , my Tiger 60 is plan built and has had (guess) 150 flights or more. It is a simple model to build and a great model to fly. Be sure however to set up your building board straight and level if you are building from plans or kit. If you are going ARF still be careful to assemble with tail. wing. accurately aligned. The Tiger is quite aerobatic if you want it to be and a straight built model will be so much better to trim and fly as is always the case. If I can help , please forward your questions.
Cheers,
Tim

Thanks Tim,
This thread has so much great info. on it, I don't know where all the Tiger 60 builders and fliers went. I'll be buying the kit in Sept.

I've just finished an Eagle2, and am learning how to fly it with instruction. Very keen to get building again, and the Tiger 60 is it!

Hope I can find an active thread in Sept.

Bill.

Wow, I can't believe this thread still has life after 2 1/2 years!
When I started it back in Nov. 2006, I had no intention of a build taking anywhere near that long. (My track record has been closer to a year.) My T60 has been 98% complete for quite some time - only needing some fuel-proofing, minor radio installation and final inspection.

Unfortunately, my time and resources for building/flying has been non-existent as I try to get a new business venture off the ground along with supporting my soon-to-be-teenage daughter's dance regimen. I have no intention of leaving the hobby entirely, but it will probably be a while before I can even entertain the thought of active participation. However, since the new business involves photography, I should at least *try* to get some final pics posted - I'll see what the schedule will allow in the coming weeks.

Hey Krossk,
This is a great thread you started. I'll be starting my T60 in Sept. Let's see some pics of your plane 98% finished.

Maybe this thread will get active again in the fall.</p>

Cheers, Willym</p>

I finished my tiger 60 kit a couple of months ago and have been flying it as much as weather allows.
I did have a problem with the fuse coming out crooked and I sent it back to Carl Goldburg. They sent me a new kit. I came up with a jig to get the fuse straight as the 2nd kit also had bowed fuse sides...

I have pics at home if interested?

pop

Mine was built in an Adjust-o-jig with the fuse attachment. Pics back in post #75 of this thread.

I decided around 2 weeks ago oon the Tiger 60 with a Magnum 91.  I will start it in late August.  Finding this thread was way cool.  I wanted to build in retracts but I am not at all sure about that now based on these postings.  Oh well.....still time to decide that.

Hi Stevenmax50,
Is the Magnum 91 a 4 or 2 stoke. I've got 3 magnums two 75's ( 2 strokes ) one of which is in my tiger 60 and a 120 4 stroke in an 80 inch Decathalon. Like them all.
If the 91 is a 2 stroke your tiger will be a real rocket. Mine with the 75 in it is more than adequately powered and will fly quite happily on 1/2 to 2/3 throttle.
As to the retracts it would be intersting to see. I have 2 basic rules for aeromodelling. The first is don't fly other people"s models ( unless they are in trouble and ask for help ) and the second is don't build a model with retracts. They look good but are generally trouble especially with a model like this that you will love flying and use a lot. Mine has probably had over 150 flights now.
Cheers,
Tim

Don't know about retracts, but mine could definitely use a drag chute for landings!! She loves to float in ground effect and once she actually touches her wheels, she rolls forever! (And that's on grass!!) Thinking about taking her to the RDRC Fly for Tots, but believe that's a paved field and I don't know if I can fly her off pavement.

Tom