FS One by Hangar 9
01-15-2007 | 05:49 PM
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No, I would be happy with that sound. Electrics sound fine, but the glow engines ( 2&4 stroke) sound like a steady tone with only slight combustion pulses, that varies in pitch with the throttle. If I select the DA 100 gas for sound it is ok tho. Thanks for your reply, that video rocks.
01-15-2007 | 10:16 PM
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From what you describe, it's definitely not working right on your system. You should be hearing the sound that's in the video. It's a recording from the sim when running. Does this FAQ help?
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1014-FS1
We've found that it might be necessary to test out each step in the sound control panel (the steps shown in the screen grab w/ the FAQ - "Hardware acceleration" slider).
The electric motors sound normal because we use one sound file for those. For gas/glow engines we mix sound files, and if there's going to be a problem ... it's heard when the sounds are mixed.
Michael
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1014-FS1
We've found that it might be necessary to test out each step in the sound control panel (the steps shown in the screen grab w/ the FAQ - "Hardware acceleration" slider).
The electric motors sound normal because we use one sound file for those. For gas/glow engines we mix sound files, and if there's going to be a problem ... it's heard when the sounds are mixed.
Michael
01-16-2007 | 05:26 PM
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The only difference I see with the acceleration slider is when its full down it sounds really bad, and when its full up it cuts in and out with popping and crackling. I'm not having any trouble with pc games, or music. Seems like an FSone/soundblaster audigy issue, although it did sound the same with my onboard realtek sound. Like I said, it sounds ok with the DA 100 sound selected. I'll just have fun with that until it's worked out, new software and all. Just trying to help out, listing my problem.
01-23-2007 | 02:07 PM
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Hi all,
I just bought the FS1 and here are my impressions after a few hours of playing:
1. The Pano graphic mode is fantastic and very realistic.
2. The planes are above average but not fantastic. They have much less details than today's planes seen on combat flight sims.
3. The 3D fields are below average. The graphics look cheap with cardboard trees.
4. In some cases, the plane handles on the pavement exactly like it was on grass! Not realistic. I was able to take off from grass with ease on my park flyer J-3 cub. Also I was able to run over pot holes with ease. What's the deal here?
5. Limited planes and fields.
6. The damage is not realstic. A small hard landing tears the plane apart?
Although I have fun with it, I would give this sim a B rather than the stellar A plus that dealers have been raving about. BTW, I have fast PC with Athlon 4800 dual core and top of the line Video card. Any comments? DP
I just bought the FS1 and here are my impressions after a few hours of playing:
1. The Pano graphic mode is fantastic and very realistic.
2. The planes are above average but not fantastic. They have much less details than today's planes seen on combat flight sims.
3. The 3D fields are below average. The graphics look cheap with cardboard trees.
4. In some cases, the plane handles on the pavement exactly like it was on grass! Not realistic. I was able to take off from grass with ease on my park flyer J-3 cub. Also I was able to run over pot holes with ease. What's the deal here?
5. Limited planes and fields.
6. The damage is not realstic. A small hard landing tears the plane apart?
Although I have fun with it, I would give this sim a B rather than the stellar A plus that dealers have been raving about. BTW, I have fast PC with Athlon 4800 dual core and top of the line Video card. Any comments? DP
01-23-2007 | 10:00 PM
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So is there an actual flying complaint or you just dont like the way your J-3 dosnt catch a pothole? I tend to use the sim for flying, not taxiing. Not as many aircraft-yes. Oh well
01-23-2007 | 10:36 PM
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It's new and we are the Beta testers... LOL... We should get paid..
I have great news.. My conector was having problems connecting with my TX and I finnaly got brave and cut the cord and spilced on a Trainer cord.. BOOYA!! No more connection problems. The connector was just too short. The new one is just a little longer and works great now.. And I never missed a day of flying waiting on Horizion to send my another.. I am a fixer of things anyways.. LOL.. If I can fix it will will sure tear it up trying to...
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I have great news.. My conector was having problems connecting with my TX and I finnaly got brave and cut the cord and spilced on a Trainer cord.. BOOYA!! No more connection problems. The connector was just too short. The new one is just a little longer and works great now.. And I never missed a day of flying waiting on Horizion to send my another.. I am a fixer of things anyways.. LOL.. If I can fix it will will sure tear it up trying to...
LATER
01-24-2007 | 09:58 AM
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I really don't care if the plane catches the pot hole or not since this is for flying, not driving. However, the ad on FS web implies that the sim is accurate to the minute details but thsi is not true. I still can take off tall grass with my Parkzone J-3 with ease and that's should not be if the sim is what they are implying. DP
01-24-2007 | 10:13 AM
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I personally love FS One. But admittedly, I have a very fast PC and don't have any other sims to compare it to other than when I see the G3 at the LHS.
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01-24-2007 | 01:40 PM
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I was about to buy the G3 because it has more planes/fields and the cost is cheaper. However I was advised that I should get the FS1 instead as "this sim will end all sims, the graphics are something need to be seen to believe, you can't tell this comes from a sim, you will yell "LANDING" because this sim is so real you forgot that it is a sim, your heart will be at your throat when you crash and you breath a sight of relief when you realized it is only a sim, you will this and you will that...." Well, my personal opinion is that it is a good sim but graphically, it falls behind other sims. I think that the hype is more than what it is worth. DP
01-24-2007 | 01:58 PM
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When I run the FS1 on my PC, the frame rate shows 1XX with both Xs blinking with all graphic details maximized. Is this the fastest frame rate possible? Thanks DP
01-27-2007 | 06:41 PM
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I am planning on buying a ew computer. Can you tell me if FSOne will work with the Microsoft Vista operating system?
I am planning on buying a ew computer. Can you tell me if FSOne will work with the Microsoft Vista operating system?
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01-28-2007 | 11:02 AM
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I just bought and loaded FSOne on a Dell Precision M20 running Windows XP Professional. Ver 2002 SP2, with a Pentium M processor, 2.13Ghz, 1GB of 787Mhz RAM and an ATI Mobility FireGL V3100 graphics adapter.
FSOne crashes whenever I try to edit a transmitter dumping me back to the desk top or causes a complete shutdown or cold boot.
I've updated the video drivers to the latest version, patched FSOne to V 1.0.4 and back to 1.0.3 with the same results. As I bought the software only version, I have had no sim time yet as I need to configure for my Futaba Xmitter. After about 4 hours of fiddling, All I have is a door stop.
What gives? Not enough hoursepower? Do I have a boat anchor? HELP! [&:]
01-28-2007 | 03:08 PM
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I just bought and loaded FSOne on a Dell Precision M20 running Windows XP Professional. Ver 2002 SP2, with a Pentium M processor, 2.13Ghz, 1GB of 787Mhz RAM and an ATI Mobility FireGL V3100 graphics adapter.
FSOne crashes whenever I try to edit a transmitter dumping me back to the desk top or causes a complete shutdown or cold boot.
I've updated the video drivers to the latest version, patched FSOne to V 1.0.4 and back to 1.0.3 with the same results. As I bought the software only version, I have had no sim time yet as I need to configure for my Futaba Xmitter. After about 4 hours of fiddling, All I have is a door stop.
What gives? Not enough hoursepower? Do I have a boat anchor? HELP! [&:]
I just bought and loaded FSOne on a Dell Precision M20 running Windows XP Professional. Ver 2002 SP2, with a Pentium M processor, 2.13Ghz, 1GB of 787Mhz RAM and an ATI Mobility FireGL V3100 graphics adapter.
FSOne crashes whenever I try to edit a transmitter dumping me back to the desk top or causes a complete shutdown or cold boot.
I've updated the video drivers to the latest version, patched FSOne to V 1.0.4 and back to 1.0.3 with the same results. As I bought the software only version, I have had no sim time yet as I need to configure for my Futaba Xmitter. After about 4 hours of fiddling, All I have is a door stop.
What gives? Not enough hoursepower? Do I have a boat anchor? HELP! [&:]
01-28-2007 | 04:28 PM
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Ok, does the sim run to the point where you can go to the Main Menu, then to Single Player Freestyle, then select an aircraft (and use the default transmitter), and then click Fly and see the sim load and run fine but you lack control since you're not using the stock TacCon controller? If so, this is a transmitter setup problem, and we can try to help you with that. If it doesn't run at all, it's something else, and we'll try to help you with that.
ORIGINAL: preich
I just bought and loaded FSOne on a Dell Precision M20 running Windows XP Professional. Ver 2002 SP2, with a Pentium M processor, 2.13Ghz, 1GB of 787Mhz RAM and an ATI Mobility FireGL V3100 graphics adapter.
FSOne crashes whenever I try to edit a transmitter dumping me back to the desk top or causes a complete shutdown or cold boot.
I've updated the video drivers to the latest version, patched FSOne to V 1.0.4 and back to 1.0.3 with the same results. As I bought the software only version, I have had no sim time yet as I need to configure for my Futaba Xmitter. After about 4 hours of fiddling, All I have is a door stop.
What gives? Not enough hoursepower? Do I have a boat anchor? HELP! [&:]
I just bought and loaded FSOne on a Dell Precision M20 running Windows XP Professional. Ver 2002 SP2, with a Pentium M processor, 2.13Ghz, 1GB of 787Mhz RAM and an ATI Mobility FireGL V3100 graphics adapter.
FSOne crashes whenever I try to edit a transmitter dumping me back to the desk top or causes a complete shutdown or cold boot.
I've updated the video drivers to the latest version, patched FSOne to V 1.0.4 and back to 1.0.3 with the same results. As I bought the software only version, I have had no sim time yet as I need to configure for my Futaba Xmitter. After about 4 hours of fiddling, All I have is a door stop.
What gives? Not enough hoursepower? Do I have a boat anchor? HELP! [&:]
01-28-2007 | 05:50 PM
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FSOneDev:
Are you going to answer the question about FS One working with Vista?
Manny
FSOneDev:
Are you going to answer the question about FS One working with Vista?
Manny
My personal opinion is that I would stay clear of a new OS for about 6 months -- if you look at the history of Win XP, Win 2k, Win98, and Win95, you see that there are a range of issues when an OS is first rolled out. The "early adopters" deal with identifying the problems and then 6+ months later, things start to get more stable. I have no reason to expect anything different with Vista -- at least not anything better. However, there already have been a wide range of reports about various compatibility problems with Vista, so I suspect that Vista may prove to be a bit more troublesome in the early stages than some of its predecessors.
We will do what we can at InertiaSoft and Horizon/Hangar9 to make the transition to Vista easy for our customers, but my personal advice is to wait on purchasing Vista, whether it's for FS One, another RC sim, or even just basic computing. That's just my opinion, however. Everyone should decide for themselves.
In any case, we'll provide more info on Vista as it becomes available. Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer at this point, but remember that we need to test Vista with a wide range of PCs to have confidence that things should run smoothly in most circumstances.
01-28-2007 | 05:53 PM
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Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
01-28-2007 | 06:04 PM
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RE: FS one by Horizon Hobbies
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Which model of Futaba transmitter are you using?
ORIGINAL: preich
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
01-28-2007 | 06:17 PM
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Older FP-T6NFK....but why would that matter? The pin-outs were the same for all of the large 5 pin din jacks....right?
ORIGINAL: FSOneDev
Which model of Futaba transmitter are you using?
ORIGINAL: preich
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
It's an older Fut, but that should be OK. If it's like the new ones, it outputs
the channel order just like the Hitec Optic 6 Tx. We have Hitec Optic
6 setups for all the airplanes in FS One. So click on that group, and
then click on the Tx for the airplane you want to fly. The
description then outlines the channel order that you need w/ the real
Tx (i.e. things like one aileron channel or two ailerons, or elevons
or not, etc). If you want to see what the keys do, then click on the
Flight Manual button and look at the 6-ch emu setup.
When you try this out, you'll see that the software radio will do all
the work. Setup your real Tx w/ no dual rates, zero expo, no mixing,
etc. You will not need to edit any of the software radios (i.e. no Tx
Editor stuff involved). Again just pick the Hitec Optic 6 radio.
Let me know if you this gets you going.
(ps Setups for other radios are discussed starting here:
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1013-FS1
Unfortunately ... there's no general standard for these real radios.
Using the TacCon version is a lot easier because it's all setup from the outset.)
Michael
01-28-2007 | 06:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: FSOneDev
Manny -- the delay in responding is because we don't have a definitive answer yet. We are currently doing testing with Vista. We're investigating various Vista issues and determining if we might want to offer a patched version that could offer improved performance under Vista.
My personal opinion is that I would stay clear of a new OS for about 6 months -- if you look at the history of Win XP, Win 2k, Win98, and Win95, you see that there are a range of issues when an OS is first rolled out. The "early adopters" deal with identifying the problems and then 6+ months later, things start to get more stable. I have no reason to expect anything different with Vista -- at least not anything better. However, there already have been a wide range of reports about various compatibility problems with Vista, so I suspect that Vista may prove to be a bit more troublesome in the early stages than some of its predecessors.
We will do what we can at InertiaSoft and Horizon/Hangar9 to make the transition to Vista easy for our customers, but my personal advice is to wait on purchasing Vista, whether it's for FS One, another RC sim, or even just basic computing. That's just my opinion, however. Everyone should decide for themselves.
In any case, we'll provide more info on Vista as it becomes available. Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer at this point, but remember that we need to test Vista with a wide range of PCs to have confidence that things should run smoothly in most circumstances.
ORIGINAL: MannyEdge
FSOneDev:
Are you going to answer the question about FS One working with Vista?
Manny
FSOneDev:
Are you going to answer the question about FS One working with Vista?
Manny
My personal opinion is that I would stay clear of a new OS for about 6 months -- if you look at the history of Win XP, Win 2k, Win98, and Win95, you see that there are a range of issues when an OS is first rolled out. The "early adopters" deal with identifying the problems and then 6+ months later, things start to get more stable. I have no reason to expect anything different with Vista -- at least not anything better. However, there already have been a wide range of reports about various compatibility problems with Vista, so I suspect that Vista may prove to be a bit more troublesome in the early stages than some of its predecessors.
We will do what we can at InertiaSoft and Horizon/Hangar9 to make the transition to Vista easy for our customers, but my personal advice is to wait on purchasing Vista, whether it's for FS One, another RC sim, or even just basic computing. That's just my opinion, however. Everyone should decide for themselves.
In any case, we'll provide more info on Vista as it becomes available. Sorry I couldn't provide a more definitive answer at this point, but remember that we need to test Vista with a wide range of PCs to have confidence that things should run smoothly in most circumstances.
FSOneDev:
The answer is good enough for me. I just wanted to know what stage FSOne was in. Tnanks again for your response. I wias thinking of waiting for a little bit before installing Vista.
I have enjoyed using FSOne. One question - is there a view where you can have a ground view?
Manny
01-28-2007 | 06:32 PM
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It's an older Fut, but that should be OK. If it's like the new ones, it outputs
the channel order just like the Hitec Optic 6 Tx. We have Hitec Optic
6 setups for all the airplanes in FS One. So click on that group, and
then click on the Tx for the airplane you want to fly. The
description then outlines the channel order that you need w/ the real
Tx (i.e. things like one aileron channel or two ailerons, or elevons
or not, etc). If you want to see what the keys do, then click on the
Flight Manual button and look at the 6-ch emu setup.
When you try this out, you'll see that the software radio will do all
the work. Setup your real Tx w/ no dual rates, zero expo, no mixing,
etc. You will not need to edit any of the software radios (i.e. no Tx
Editor stuff involved). Again just pick the Hitec Optic 6 radio.
Let me know if you this gets you going.
(ps Setups for other radios are discussed starting here:
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1013-FS1
Unfortunately ... there's no general standard for these real radios.
Using the TacCon version is a lot easier because it's all setup from the outset.)
Michael
ORIGINAL: preich
Older FP-T6NFK....but why would that matter? The pin-outs were the same for all of the large 5 pin din jacks....right?
ORIGINAL: FSOneDev
Which model of Futaba transmitter are you using?
ORIGINAL: preich
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
Yes. I can load and run the sim with the default xmitter no problem. Problem is the controls are all nutsed up. But it Will load and run OK. I can select transmitter from the freestyle fly menu. I have copied a tranmitter and re-named it Futaba and have reassigned a few controls. It is during that process, that FSOne either crashes and re-boots my machine or just crashes out to the desktop.
It's an older Fut, but that should be OK. If it's like the new ones, it outputs
the channel order just like the Hitec Optic 6 Tx. We have Hitec Optic
6 setups for all the airplanes in FS One. So click on that group, and
then click on the Tx for the airplane you want to fly. The
description then outlines the channel order that you need w/ the real
Tx (i.e. things like one aileron channel or two ailerons, or elevons
or not, etc). If you want to see what the keys do, then click on the
Flight Manual button and look at the 6-ch emu setup.
When you try this out, you'll see that the software radio will do all
the work. Setup your real Tx w/ no dual rates, zero expo, no mixing,
etc. You will not need to edit any of the software radios (i.e. no Tx
Editor stuff involved). Again just pick the Hitec Optic 6 radio.
Let me know if you this gets you going.
(ps Setups for other radios are discussed starting here:
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1013-FS1
Unfortunately ... there's no general standard for these real radios.
Using the TacCon version is a lot easier because it's all setup from the outset.)
Michael
01-28-2007 | 06:41 PM
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I find it almost inconcievable that some degree of testing with vista has not already been done, while the alpha program and beta program was in operation. It is not a question of asking people to hold off for six months while you start your testing, you should have been doing this (like every other hardware/software vendor wanting to make a profit wherever they can) more than six months ago.
When folks are buying new systems now and near future, they won't have a lot of choice which os it comes with. And you can be sure that those new systems have already gone through a significant amount of testing with all the packaged software they come with. Granted, there will be issues that arise for a while, but generally the systems will function. On the otherhand, upgrading the OS on existing systems may be worth waiting a while for, and doing some research in advance. But those are not the customers that are going to find fault with what you have (or haven`t) done yet.
I hope you manage to come away from this gracefully!
When folks are buying new systems now and near future, they won't have a lot of choice which os it comes with. And you can be sure that those new systems have already gone through a significant amount of testing with all the packaged software they come with. Granted, there will be issues that arise for a while, but generally the systems will function. On the otherhand, upgrading the OS on existing systems may be worth waiting a while for, and doing some research in advance. But those are not the customers that are going to find fault with what you have (or haven`t) done yet.
I hope you manage to come away from this gracefully!
01-28-2007 | 06:52 PM
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No Good. The pinouts must be different. The Optic 6 results in no control input at all, even in the calibrate utility.....Maybe oposite shift but same pin-out?
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After that round of messing around, Now I can't get to the simulation at all. From the Freestyle, Fly menu, when I click on Fly, it appears to start loading then dumps me back to the Fly menu, no matter what Xmitter I select. I've closed everthing down and re-booted with no difference. Something got corrupted? Probably need to do a reinstall and patch up to 1.0.4? I am really starting to get a little "strained" with this.....2 days and no stick time yet!
