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Old 11-06-2013 | 10:56 AM
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Exactly! It was built very early before anyone complained and its never been changed as it flys fine as it is. BUT I'm sure with some people they have a little flap in, which add to the problem. you need to clean up the seat and back of the flap to ensure it goes up fully.

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To reiterate (that's a proper word right?) If you don't want your Hawk to climb, or DIVE if you are inverted, at full thrust, you will want a small P mix in your radio. So mount your turbine however you like, fly it, then mix to suit. The mix works great, I was surprised at how true it flies with that, it ends up being a very "clean" mix, you won't notice it when flying.
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Very interesting about the flap maybe not coming all the way up as molded... Gotta take a look at that...
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I noticed 7 wooden pieces on the main wooden tray that appear to be used to back up the servo screws on the servo mounts. Where would those go? there are only 7? also no mention in the manual of this either buy im assuming you use blind nuts (t nuts) to attach the elevator servo tray to the mount?
Old 11-08-2013 | 02:29 PM
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It was just the available free wood. You don't need to use them anywhere, but people over tighten the big screws and can strip threads...back up fixes that. You don't "need" them.

Yes, three T nuts under the fuse tray.

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I used those 7 plates plus another from scrap for blocking "or packing" my flap servos.
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Thanks guys i really appreciate the help. I used them on the elevator servo mounts to increase the gluing area.
how is everyone securing the carbon rod the horizontal stabs ride on? I didn't see any mention of that in the manual either.
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There's some discussion back in the thread. After I trimmed mine I drilled holes down thru the ply support and CF tube and used a couple long socket head screws, probably 2-56 or 2mm down thru and countersunk. It's just pinned really, you could use anything, but screws are removable.
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I didn't put anything in the manual as I couldn't decide on a perfect solution and by the time I'd finished the manual I'd seen 3 or 4 different methods that all worked! I put a single screw in one side and that's still good after 4 years!

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Still amassing items for the assembly. Will be heading to Wichita, KS in two weeks for B-1 Bob to do a quick build on BobTV
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Is your vertical stab spar aluminum?
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Looks familiar... I liked the shot with all your goodies spread out. Who makes those great servo extensions with the big block connectors? Those are cool!
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Thunderbolt r/c - Todd has them
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Originally Posted by husafreak
Looks familiar... I liked the shot with all your goodies spread out. Who makes those great servo extensions with the big block connectors? Those are cool!
Smitty turned me on to those also, they are awesome
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Originally Posted by husafreak
Looks familiar... I liked the shot with all your goodies spread out. Who makes those great servo extensions with the big block connectors? Those are cool!
Get some Ashlok connectors, wire, and a crimping tool from Todd, and you'll never have to buy a servo extension again - and every one is exactly the length you need.

http://www.dreamworksrc.com/catalog/Ashlok-176

You can get the unassembled JR connectors from Todd too so you can make ends that plug into the servos and RX:

http://www.dreamworksrc.com/catalog/...Set-Jr-%284%29
http://www.dreamworksrc.com/catalog/...Set-Jr-%284%29

The same crimper as the Ashlok will work for those too.

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I usually make up my own extensions, (unless Servo City is doing a sale), those JR connectors are pricey though. I wish I had seen the Ashlok connectors, of course I just ordered from Dreamworks a few days ago... It looks like I can use my el cheapo crimping pliers with the Ashlok pins, they look the same as regular servo connector pins. But the el cheapo crimpers are a fiddle to use, it is hard to control the pins until you actually do the crimp, are the expensive ones any better?
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Originally Posted by husafreak
I usually make up my own extensions, (unless Servo City is doing a sale), those JR connectors are pricey though. I wish I had seen the Ashlok connectors, of course I just ordered from Dreamworks a few days ago... It looks like I can use my el cheapo crimping pliers with the Ashlok pins, they look the same as regular servo connector pins. But the el cheapo crimpers are a fiddle to use, it is hard to control the pins until you actually do the crimp, are the expensive ones any better?
You can get the "RC" type connectors for much less, in bulk, here:

http://www.hansenhobbies.com/product...rvoconnectors/

Keeping the pins on the wire until you crimp is sometimes a bit$#. You can get crimpers from Molex that hold the pin in place and allow you to insert the wire easily without dropping the pin. However, they are really pricey (> $200)

What I do is, hold the wire in the pin at the proper place, and then, using a small set of needle nose pliers, I squeeze the part of the pin that goes around the insulation just enough that it holds the pin on the wire. Then its easy to insert it onto the crimper the proper distance and do the final crimping. Squeezing the pin a bit like this doesn't effect the final crimping at all, but it makes getting the wire, pin, and crimper all lined up as necessary for a good, secure crimp *much* easier.

BTW, the proper crimper is an "all in one" that does the whole pin in one shot and has the ratchet release - like the one that Todd sells. If that is what you mean by an "expensive" one, then, yes, by all means, make that investment. Its much cheaper and neater to make your own in the long run.

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Old 11-11-2013 | 12:08 PM
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Thanks for the link, that is a good price for bulk connectors. I do the same as you with small needle nose pliers then the crimper. I think I got my pliers from Radio Shack or something, they wont hold the pins until you close them.
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Ashlok are actually Molex, took me a whole evening to source the correct bodies and pins male/female also you can choose type of material that pins/sockets are made out of, I went with the 22AWG that are gold plated I do have all the part numbers saved. I get mine from RS components but you can get them from Digikey in the US. I have made my own connections on all my models since about 2004 never had a failure also use them for my lighting sets.

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The ratcheting blue handle pin crimpers from servo city are the ones i use to make my extensions
$20 I don't think that's to expensive.
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I bought the crimper that Hansen sells and for the most part, it holds the pin while you push the wire into it. It crimps both parts most of the time. Sometimes it leaves one of the legs up that crimps the insulation and then you use the needle nose.

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Time for more pictures as I had such a great day flying mine yesterday!

Taken by DW a few months ago - I just love it (pic and especially the model)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLHsYGiAc04 Bob

Think I already posted this but you get the idea of the two strobes, the reason I put the white rear LED in the centre was that the full size has it positioned to the right and I would not have had room for the 10mm LED that I used there is not a lot of room between fuselage and elevator, I guess you could squeeze in a white Rebel but again would need heat sink making. The heat sink assemblies that I make for the red/green are around 3.5" long

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Alan,

That looks great. What temperature of white LEDs did you use for the strobes and the landing light? From this chart, 4100k looks fairly neutral. We bought some 5000k CFL's for the kitchen the other day and it made it look like a Dr's office - too blue...



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Old 11-12-2013 | 09:23 AM
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The strobes if I remember right were around 5700k-6000K I will check on my invoices. Strobes are obviously not incandescent lamps so are usually a cool white which is normally up to 6000K, one of my orders I had to send back as the rebels were definatley not 6000k like they were advertised, in fact compared with my strobes they positively looked yellow, the strobes need to be a cool white. Now the headlight I had same problem, my headlamp in the video is a 6000k K2 which you can not buy anymore, I did try a warm white which is more off white but then again the full size lamp is incandescent but in the air the cool white just appears to stand out more. I am currently getting lists together of parts for more lighting kits.
Also some leds I'm not so sure that the temp rating on some are not strictly correct. 6000k is 6000k and some definitely vary in colour.... Well strictly speaking white and black are not colours

Did if you get my pm?

Alan

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