DX5E is cheaper then the module and at least you won't be wearing out your expensive TX.

I fly mode 4. Bummer..

C

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I fly mode 4. Bummer..

C
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Chris, I feel for you. To bad we cant just move the functions around like we did when you flew my Visa. Anyway back to the contest. Last week I was printing out the aresti and manuever descriptions for sportsman and intermediate for some of our guys here locally and I could not believe what came out. Sportsman, 17 manuevers, and 19 for intermidiate. These guys are all pretty good pilots and I promise there is no way I could get one of them prepared enough to enter the contest. I have spoken with several people about this and we have decided to alter these two patterns for this contest.

Sportsman - will stop after Manuever 11, the 45 Degree Downline. I know its ending downwind and idealy that isn't the way to end a pattern but there is really no other choice without actually changing the pattern.

Intermidiate - will stop after Manuever 14, the Square On Corner, which is an upwind exit

If there is any Sportsman or Intermidiate pilots out there that would like to talk about this please PM me.

IMO the length of these patterns is to long. I would much rather be able to give the lower class pilots some 8's or 9's because they can actually learn each manuever and try to perfect it, rather then giving 5's and 6's to the guys that can just get through a sequence. Again just my opinoun.

C

BTW Chris. I am well on my way to being able to fly two 4 channel planes at the same time off the same TX. Wind was blowing today but yesterday I spent several flights learning how to fly with just my left hand. Throttle is now Elev., Rudder is Ail. LS (Left slider) is throttle and LST is rudder. Taxing was the hard part and almost immediately Barkley decided the pit area wasn't the safest place LOL. So my question is what mode do you think this will become? I bet it really catches on.







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Hey guys just a couple more things. We are going to fly a little bit of old style pattern but not by the classic pattern rules. We are going to use the 1983 rule book. Thats right its pick your own pattern from a list of manuevers and the total K counting take off and landing cannot exceed 45. However it can be less. This is open to everyone that would like to try it. I have already been contacted by some names from the past that are actually getting new planes just for this.

Of course Tony has his trusty Phoenix, Jim K with either a Compensator or Sillouette, Matt K (still thinks hes going to crash again if he flys again) Richard Verano (thats right MR YS) a new Phoenix or XLT he is picking up from Joe Bridi himself, (He has not committed 100% but he sounds pretty excited and I know the factory was able to find a couple engines so I think the odds are pretty good) and I just bought a Tipo 725 kit to go with my trusty Rossi thats been in my glove compartment since o8. I know there are a couple more guys with really good planes in perfect condition from back then lurking about and I am trying to get in touch with them. If anyone has Pete Callas's number please pm me.

We have 4 guys so far which will definitely make it a contest and a neat bit of nostalgia for eveyone to enjoy. This class starts off the contest and will fly on both lines, once per person in order to get 2 rounds done right off the bat. I only flew Masters in 83, and then turnaround came out in 84 and changed everything. I do remember watching a couple guys fly these patterns many times and I knew that thats how I wanted to fly. Dave Wilson and Jim Kimbro in my opinoun were the best pilots of that era. I clearly remember watching Dave Brown, Mark Radcliff, Helms, Bonetti, all great pilots but none of them had the style of the west coast boys.

Jim always had super clean imaculate airplanes and flew a very distinct and pronuced style that was almost unbeatable when he was on. Dave on the other hand was the one guy that flew so smooth and precise using rudder in places back then it was never thought of. After they kicked my but by so much at the end of 82 I knew I wanted to fly just like they did and that is how I still fly today. (Janet, Jims wife, had not seen me fly since 1982 and it was so funny at Whittier in 2009 when she look at Jim during my flight and said "Thats how you use to fly just do it that way again" She has a good eye and memory)

Dave taught me more then Jim because Dave would talk to me. Jim would just tell Dave to get rid of me. lol Both of them were team alternates Jim more then once and both times missing the team because of stupid stuff not his flying. One time, the timer called time, when he was about 5 feet off the ground zeroing his landing and the other time an elevator servo quit, but he was able to land the plane, change it and continue. Dave is still a great (UAV) pilot, golfer, bowler pretty much whatever he tries and I bet if Andrew hauls him down from Utah with him and we find the crookedest, heavy, oil soaked, Deception around Dave wiil beat us all. (Andrew balls in your court)

Anyhow Jim has the rule book and we are going to get Mike Greer the list of manuvers so we can score it with the computer tear sheets. There will be no Normalizing as that didn't start until the next cycle.

We have had a bunch of positive response on the shortened patterns and the guys are all making improvements. I was down in Chula Vista earlier in the week and spoke with several of the guys and it sounds like we have at least a few coming that have not traveled before and possibly a lot more. See, they have about 20 guys that fly Emac and half of them have full blown pattern planes. We have it set up for me to run back down to give a pattern seminar and fly in the Emac contest in order to get the guys to try some pattern. Steve Dente is the mastermind behind a lot of this and he seems to think if we work together a little we could see a signifigant amount of guys give pattern a try. I think this is awesome and if this works out I think some other events should try the shortened patternsas well. We will have flight times tomorrow, but for now Leon said the intermediate pattern, cut off at manuever 14, is still about 7 minutes takeoff to landing which I think is about right.

The field is being resurface next Thursday and we are going to install some more lighting and some speakers in order to have a little something to listen to during the half time shows and in the evenings. Kyle Dahl is definately in for the demos and the contest just not sure which pattern is suitable for his skill level. . I will get the Hotel info out tomorrow or Mon. and we have added Thunderpower, and Smart-fly to the sponsors list for prizes.

And finally Judging. We have a couple guys coming I think will be a welcome site to help out and nobody should have to judge more then one round unless they want to.

Thats All for tonight

I am beat

C

Chip - Man! You are working hard on this and it's sounding better and better! Thank you very much for going out of the box and trying this stuff. I will also try and fly some classic with my Phoenix 7! I'll get the list of maneuvers from Mike or Tony and put something together.

Thanks again,

Toally sympathize with Matt, I was calling for Chuck and I was devistated for a week (again, a caller is helpless if he can't call a safety break). Sounds like a full schedule with lots of people....Gee Bee racing, classic, pattern, and demo's, you'll need to run this like a fine swiss watch. If there is anything I can do to help, just ask.

Randy

Thanks, I think if we keep the lines going and start no later then 0830 we will be ok. I need to officially retract my statement about Matt being afraid of crashing again. Some time shortly after I made my last post, Matt (On his own) changed his mind and decided to join us along with Jon. Funny how that worked out. lol Anyway he also sent me a copy of the FAI rule book from 1983. It is actually 12 manuevers totaling 45K not counting take off and landing. I have attached the relevant sections below. Thanks Matt/Jim

C

You guys are killin me!!! I really want to go to this but I have a pylon race the following weekend an my wedding 2 weeks later. My bride is very understanding but this would be pushing it.............RATS!!

Chip

Sounds like a lot of fun I talked with Richard and he sounds like he is coming. I have your Tipo 725 you called about? I didn't see where the event is being held at. Can you fill us in.

Where is it ? directions to the field?

Address is: 5800 N. Wheeler Ridge Rd. Arvin, CA (intersection of N. Wheeler Ridge Rd. and Sycamore Rd.)

GPS is: 35.196017, -118.914489

Chip..

Did you get my email? Been talking with Gordon about scoring the classic, he would like to talk to you.

Mike.....

If you really wanted to keep it nostalgia/Classic Pattern oriented you should forgo the computerized scoring! We did it by hand with calculators back in the day as there were no 'puters...

We were thinking that but Mike and them seem to have a way we can do it and print out the score sheets. I think it might be easier to just have to write out one pattern per person myself. We will get back to that in the near future but right now I have a few updates that are pretty exciting.

I know I mentioned having a party at a club members house and that was really option 2 we had to choose from. We were uncertain if we could get the place we all really like until just last week. Since I know a lot of us are Nascar fans and of course we all love airplanes it really only seems right to have it at a place where we can enjoy both. While I was away in Phoenix, Leon was contacted by the owners of the Harmon Rocket and its a go. This is awesome as the place is big enough to have seventy people in a banquet type room that opens up to the main restaurant and even though we will not have the full run of the place it will be close to that.

This place is so cool as it is filled with avaition history as well as being a Nascar cafe. I hope this is ok with everyone and it is located very close to the hotels. Leon and the club are to thank for this and it is scheduled to start at 730 on sat night. Maps will be at the field.

Next on the agenda is, we have had a great response from the sponsors. I had contacted Zap a week or so ago and explained what we are doing and they came back with the following.

1. 60 1 ounce bottles (Thats right 60 not 6) of thick and thin CA.
2. They sent the check to sponsor 2 of the six first place trophies
3. As well as sending Hats (Not sure how many)

This is really incredible and more then $1000.00 of total sponsorship just from them. Please make sure to be thinking about what kind best suits your needs when signing up and pick up a bottle.

The sanction has been sent off approved and forwarded to AMA so we are good there and now we are just putting the final pieces into place. By my count we are only 24 days out so start parcticing and get ready to have some fun and experience a really good contest. All the classes are filling nicely and it should be a really good turnout.

C

Also the new material for the runway just showed up at the field and we will get it laid down this weekend.

[quote]I will call you in a day or two I just got back from arizona. BTW guys I flew the two 4 ch. planes off one tx twice successfully!!!! I did have help keeping one in the air while I did both of the takeoffs and landings so it wasn't a complete success in my mind. I am going to continue to practice though and with the aid of dual snap roll buttons we might do it again at the contest if anyone is up for it.

C

so first it was 2 guys flying one plane.....

... now... one guy flying two planes.....


....... I am 'fraid to ask what is next!!

lol

Actually there is one in between that.

1st we did one plane two different radios then just a few weeks ago Mike Caglia and I borrowed a 40% plane and he flew rudder and throttle while I had elev and ail. That was a blast rolling circles and the whole bit. Natural evolution was the 2 planes one tx which I will say again is by no means perfected yet. Not sure what is next I am out of ideas. lol

Hey guys it just keeps getting better. Today I was at the field and ran into Jim Oddino. After a little small talk I mentioned the contest and how we would love to have him as a sponsor. Sure enough after a little more small talk Jaccio products is now on the list. How cool is this all sponsors directly related to our event. Who knows we might even get a corp. sponsor to announce some really cool stuff in the next few days. Heck at the end of the contest we might all be -wieser. I am just saying we have some good people behind this event and I want as many of you that can to come and enjoy it with us............................................

More later

C

Didn't know Jim is a industry giant.... always like to buy from the local talent...is there a website ?, what does he manufacture ? etc., etc., etc.

Randy,

Jim makes the Jaccio line of voltage regulators. I don't think he has a website but his products are sold through places like F3AUnlimited and Central Hobbies.

I only have a few minutes right now as the wind has really started to blow and we are going to Lake Isabella to DS. I went yesterday and was able to get into the high 170's on a 20 mph wind which was a huge rush. Today it should be pushing 50mph winds and hopefully we will see speeds above 400mph. Its unbelievably fast at 200 I can only imagine what 400 looks like. BTW the record now stands at 498mph for a RC Glider. Imagine a 2.5 second circle at that speed. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all I have spoken to Richard and unless something unexspected comes up hes going to be here for the contest for sure along with Joe Bridi. This is awesome to just have all these people together in the same place again. Bob Gillespie emailed and even though he doesn't like to stray to far from home he's coming as is Rusty Van Buren. I think we will have 10 guys flying Old School alone which is going to put us over 40 for the event.

Everything else is going great, and Tony has been kind enough to step in and take on the Gee Bee Race part for us. We have the rules pretty much ironed out and that event is going to start Friday afternoon. Don't worry if your not able to get here It will be continued Sat. with the flyoff taking place Sun. before the awards.

The Trophies have been selected wait until you guys see them I think they are really nice. The first place Trophies are Crystal and will look great on any mantle. The food has changed slightly it will be pizza and sat for lunch and Chicken with Beans and rice Sunday.

More later the guys just showed up from Austrailia to pick me up.

C

BTW we have TShirts being made that are going to be so cool. On the front Is the contest logo the sleeves have the sponsors, and the back is PO'd Grizzley Bear coming over a mountain looking down at the contest thinking to himself I dont want to mess with those guys. If you think you might want one kind of chime in so I can get a rough head count. The goal is to have a shirt for the field your not embarrassed to wear anyplace.

C

XL for me...

sign me up for 2- 2XL's, Haha I'm runnung low on dress T shirts, they all have epoxy drops on the belly....


Randy

I will take a couple of larges! Sounds awesome Chip!