antigua_007

hey guys,
im looking to build a trimaran from scratch and have had a look around for a few plans but cant find any. could anyone point me in the right direction for some free plans... or even where i could get the complete specs for something like the B&Q trimaran that i could then scale down.

thanks alot
danny

Idealist

The plans of my Nightmare Mk VII (pdf.) can be sent to you - and every other interested person - for free!

Of course several modifications - like scale X-shape crossbars or wingmasts - can be applied by yourself,
but these plans will give you a stable basis to start with.

Just send your request to: [email protected]

Idealist

antigua 007 has already received the plans.

As an additional explaination:
I shape my hullplugs out of solid foam and cover them with three to four layers of 160 gr. glass (twill) with epoxy resin.
Then they are sanded (grain 40, 80, 120). PVA mold release is applied.
Then I laminate the lightweight shells with two layers of 160 gr. glass and two layers of 80 gr. glass.
Each single shell is sanded with the same sanding grains (40,80,120),
before I remove it from the plug.
This can be done with two layers of 160 gr. carbon also.

It is also possible, to cut out the cross sections from 3mm balsa and plank them up with 3mm balsa planks as well.
Then the hulls are covered with two layers of 160 gr. glass.

To make the building process easier for everyone, there are several picture galleries of different modeltrimarans at:

http://community.webshots.com/user/boatbuilder

http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?t=45060

http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showthread.php?t=94097

Idealist

By now four trimaran prospects have received all necessary selfbuilding plans!

145 Pictures of the multihullmeeting at Lake Aartal in 2007!
http://www.rc-network.de/magazin/art...rt_077-01.html
As said before, this year there will be around TEN Mini40 Trimarans and at least two 2M Trimarans.
The meeting will be 5th - 6th July 2008

Idealist

7 free selfbuildingplans in pdf. format have been sent out to prospects by now!

I´m already working on the design of "Nightmare Mk VIII".

All coordinates for new floats (more volume and even flatter keel rocker, higher freeboard at the bows))
and new mainhull (center of gravity even more aftward than before, higher bow freeboard as well)
are already here. Curved crossbars, if desired; - but everything else remains like it was on the Mk VII.

Is there anybody out there, who is able and willing to transform these data sets to a complete Autocad plan?
Cross sections, centerboard position, rc-set-up, rudder steering details, A-, B-, C- and D-rigg-dimensions and so on.

I definitely would need your help here.

Unfortunately I do not have any more contact to the person,
who was so nice to make the drawings of the Mk VII for all of us.

Just send an email to: [email protected]

TBK

I am starting a new build the "Snapdragon" trimaran using the Traplet plans. I also got the Freight Train plans from Traplet and may try building that one in the future. Has anyone built and sailed the "Snapdragon" and if so are there any pitfalls to avoid. I am a very experienced builder and just completed a USOM. Being an accomplished multihull sailor of catamarans (Hobies, Tornados, Nacras) the thought of building a model multihull was intriguing. The Snapdragon plans do have good template details, but they lack overall details on radio placement shroud attachment and crossbar details. I can certainly overcome this, but if anyone has some thoughts to share I would appreciate it.

Idealist

Hi again!

Today I sent out plan No.10 to another prospect!
So the rc multihull scene seems to be a little quiet, but definitely not dead!

TBK

The Snapdragon built is moving along. The main hull is complete- no deck or internals yet. and I've set up the forms to begin planking the first float. I have decided to alter the crossbeams and go to a molded CF reinforced curved beam, versus the straight CF tubes on the plan. I am also going to angle the floats up slightly, versus having the decks at the same elevation. I will be going to a curved deck profile at the bows which will get faired out as it moves aft. This should give it a little more forgiveness if it buries. I'm also laying out the sailplan and rigging details. I'm planning on using a profile similar to my USOM with a B rig sized jib (30%) and a larger more powerful main. It should come in around 1100 sq ins or thereabouts. It should be ideal as it will get sailed predominantly in the lighter winds that we have here. Mini40 - I wouldn't mind getting a look at your latest Nightmare plans/sketches to see were the design ideas are evolving in this class. I've seen photos of the earlier versions and I like the overall look of the design. You can reach me at [email protected]. I'll post some photos of the build as soon as I get a chance.

Idealist

Today, free selfbuilding plan Number 16 (!) of the "Nightmare Mk. VII" has been sent out to Australia!

TBK

Hi Ernst Saw your post on this thread and may be able to get the Nightmare VIII to a complete set of autocad plans. I do have access to some software and la arge plotter. Send me what you have got and I'll see what I can do.

TBK

[email protected]

Idealist

Today FREE Plan Nr. 20 of the "Nightmare Mk.VII Trimaran" has been sent out!

kzimmerman

Send me one too please, I've grown a little tired of footies, need something bigger and different.
[email protected]

Idealist

It looks like the building season has really begun!
Today FOUR more persons asked for the free selfbuilding plans of the "Nightmare Mk. VII".
Makes 24 overall.

Just send a mail to: [email protected], to get your own free printable .pdf- copy.
These are three .zip-files inkluding complete hull drawings, rudder, centerboard, rc- installation and rigging -
as .pdf-files and .dxf-files for Autocad as well.

@Kzimmerman:
Your copy has been sent to you!

The left picture was made by TomTest:
During the german "Aartalsee-Multihull-Meeting" in 2007,
The left boat (yellow and purple) was designed and built by Karl Schmidt (nickname SKAUT) from AUSTRIA, who just won the latest Multihull-race series in FRANCE!
The boat on the right right side was designed by Peter Gernert (nickname WIESEL) from Germany.

The picture on the right side was made by Eric Gielen:
This is the carbon/epoxy prototype of the "Nightmare Mk. VII,
which was designed by me - Ernst Zemann, Vienna/Austria - and was originally built by me, together with Eric Gielen at Austria - completed with the great help of Karl Schmidt, who took a lot of care for very good sets of sails!

Youtube video of the "Nightmare Mk. VII":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK2TdqjnzeY
Taken at her maiden testtrip seven moths ago - 2:19 min.
Although Eric had never sailed a rc-model trimaran before that date (!),
it is clearly visible how easyly and securely this design can be sailed on one float.

mario1o1

Hi im am a multihull sailor and am interested in the building the RC "Nightmare Mk.VII Trimaran". i was wondering where i can get the plans for this boat. i also read in the thread that you would like someone to draft out the plans in CAD. I use solidworks and i would like to try to convert it. thank you.

bertauy

Just asked for plans too. I am working on my own trimaran I designed in Autodesk Inventor. Here are some screen shots of it.

yann

bertauy

the boats are beautiful, hope my boat comes out and sails as nice as yours do.

Yann

Idealist

Hello Yann,
your design looks beautiful as well!
The plans of the "Nightmare Mk. VII" have been sent to you, as well as to several other interested persons.
As it is a proofen design, you can use it at least to compare it with your own ideas.
You must be ranging at plan No.30, if I didn´t count wrong.

Addition:

Hello Yann,
as you requested per email, here are some more datas:
The overall ready to sail weight of the "Nightmare Mk.VII"-Prototype is 2800gr.
Floats are 380gr. each, maihull was around 800gr. without rc-set or armwinch (HITEC).
As I didn´t complete the boat myself - which was done by the owner Eric Gielen, together with Karl Schmidt -
who is the President of the Austrian NAVIGA-Rc-Sailing-Assoziation -
they added some components which made the boat heavier than I planned.
It was designed for 3000gr. ready-to-sail-weight,
but could have been at 2600gr. if they had done it like I suggested to them.

Anyway - the floats have an overall volume of 7500 cm2 -
which is the proper relation of 250-300% of the overall boatweight!

Idealist

@ Yann

and for all interested persons, who would like to draw the "Nightmare Mk. VII" on Autocad or other rendering programs.

Coordinate sets for the floats:
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„Nightmare Mk.VII“
Coordinates for the floats – View from Top

1) The cross sections are counted from Stern to bow,
The stern is 0 (Zero) and then up to 15.
Distance between each cross section 80 mm + 20 mm for the bowbumper.

2) The numbers given below are of course only half width.
At the widest point the float must be 48mm x 2 = 96 mm.

3) These floats have vertical sides. Therefore the numbers given below are also the radiusses for the lower part of the floats.

0 = 24,000mm
1 = 29,333mm (+5,333mm)
2 = 34,000mm (+4,666mm)
3 = 38,000mm (+4,000mm)
4 = 41,333mm (+3,333mm)
5 = 44,000mm (+2,666mm)
6 = 46,000mm (+2,000mm)
7 = 47,333mm (+1,333mm)
8 = 48,000mm (+0,666mm)
________________________ widest point/not identical with center of volume

9 = 48,000mm (+0,000mm)
10= 46,000mm (-2,000mm)
11= 42,000mm (-4,000mm)
12= 36,000mm (-6,000mm)
13= 28,000mm (-8,000mm)
14= 18,000mm (-10,000mm)
15= 06,000mm (-12,000mm)

+ 20 mm for the Bowbumper


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„Nightmare Mk.VII“
Coordinates for the floats – View from Side.

1) The cross sections are counted from Stern to bow,
The stern is 0 (Zero) and then up to 15.
Distance between each cross section 80 mm + 20 mm for the bowbumper.

2) This set of numbers given below describe the keel rocker line.
As the floats should only TOUCH the waterline - but not dive into,
there are NO numbers with a – (Minus) in front of them.
This (the Minus-coordinates) would only apply for the mainhull.

3) In this design mode the stern is 52,00 mm above CWL (Construction waterline).

4)The deckline is simply a straight line.
As the stern is 48,00 mm high, the deckline starts there at 100,00 mm.
The deckline goes up 2,00 mm for each cross section.
Therefore the bow is 130,00 mm above CWL.
But as the keel rockerline goes up again 2,00 mm at the bow, the bow is actually 128 mm high.

0 = 52,000mm
1 = 44,000mm (-8,00mm)
2 = 36,666mm (-7,33mm)
3 = 30,000mm (-6,66mm)
4 = 24,000mm (-6,00mm)
5 = 18,666mm (-5,33mm)
6 = 14,000mm (-4,66mm)
7 = 10,000mm (-4,00mm)
8 = 06,666mm (-3,33mm)
________________________ widest point, but not the deepest point of the float/
not identical with center of volume
9 = 04,000mm (-2,66mm)
10= 02,000mm (-2,00mm)
11= 00,666mm (-1,33mm)
12= 00,000mm (-0,66mm)
deepest point of the float
13= 00,000mm (-0,00mm)
14= 00,666mm (+0,66mm)
15= 02,000mm (+1,33mm)

+ 20 mm for the Bowbumper


„Nightmare Mk.VII“
Coordinates for the floats – radiusses for the rounded deck.

1) The cross sections are counted from Stern to bow,
The stern is 0 (Zero) and then up to 15.
Distance between each cross section 80 mm + 20 mm for the bowbumper.

0 - 13,000 mm
1 - 18,333 mm
2 - 23,000 mm
3 - 27,000 mm
4 - 30,333 mm
5 - 33,000 mm
6 - 35,000 mm
7 - 36,333 mm
8 - 37,000 mm
__________________ biggest width

9 - 37,000 mm
10-35,500 mm
11-32,500 mm
12-28,000 mm
13-22,000 mm
14-14,500 mm
15-05,500 mm

+ 20,00 mm for the bowbumper

You will notice, that a straight (flat) strip of 22mm wideness (11mm x 2) from Stern up to cross section 9 remains.
This flat section is for (later to be done) easier installation of the crossbarfittings and the necessary reinforcements of the floats in this area.
From cross section 9 up to the bow, this flat section becomes slimmer in a harmonic curve.

09 – 11,0 +11,0 mm
10 - 10,5 + 10,5 mm
11 - 09,5 + 09,5 mm
12 – 08,0 + 08,0 mm
13 – 06,0 + 06,6 mm
14 - 03,5 + 03,5 mm
15 - 00,5 + 00,5 mm

RaceCraftRC

email sent.

Idealist

Cool!
Plans have been sent back to you!

Good luck for the building!

If you have any technical questions, don´t hesitate to ask.
Thats what I´m here for!

TBK

Finally got some pics of the finished tri

TBK

TBK

Ernst

Can you send me the Nightmare VII plans again. The previous file you sent me somehow got corrupted on my computer and I was unable to get it to print out. You can send it to me at [email protected]

Many Thanks
TBK

Idealist

Dear Terry,
plans will be sent in a minute!

How is your current trimaran sailing now?
Are you satisfied with its performance?
Please give us more informations - and sailingpics as well, if possible!

Thank you very much,
Ernst Zemann

TBK

Some more pics. File size limits what can be sent at one time. The boat sails great. It is very quick to accelerate and has minimal tendency to bury the bow. It tacks very well, as long as you maintain a little boatspeed going in. I wish I had taken some pictures on the water but it will have to wait now until spring since my local sailing site is as hard as rock right now. The sails were made to my spec by Rod Carr of Carr sails. He did a great job and the workmanship is first class. The sails measure in at about 1100 sq in. All the rigging is from Midwest Model Yachting and is predominantly Sails Etc hardware - again first class. Over the winter I will be experimenting a little bit with different size fins and rudders. The current rudder does have a "wing" to help drive the stern down and bows up on acceleration, but I will be making several other shapes (mostly longer) and probably try some without a wing. The boat is not "superlight" and comes in around 5.5 lbs fully rigged. I will be building a couple of other new boats over the winter as well including the Nightmare Mk VII and I will be looking at possibly making a series of moulds this time versus the glass over balsa that was used on this tri. That way I can experiment with different cloth weights, including carbon fibre. Looking forward to the next series of builds.

Idealist

Dear Kerry,
now as I can see the details of your boat i really have to say you did a great craftsmanship job! Well done, man!
And 5.5 lbs. - that should be only 2.5 kgs., if I didn´t calculate wrong - which is also a very good (low) value.

I would be very pleased if you could find the time during the winter,
to build one or two of my "nightmare"-designs and be able to sail them against your current boat next spring!

If you are really into making moulds let me tell you, that I do not ask for any royalty fees if you use my designs -
not now and not for the future.
If you have any chance to get into production with these boats, just do it!