I agree 100% !!!

Why can't you view the site without registering??

They are shooting themselves in the foot with this one.....

yep, thats why we are failing[8D]

I'm sure I'm gonna start something here. But I have a question. Why should the people that spend there hard earned money and time, worry about whether or not people have to register to the view the site.
If the site admitted all people that just wanted to lurk and leach info from people that actually care about scale modeling. The amount of servor space it would increase would just mean more money/time for us to pay for your enjoyment. It eliminates the crusiers that aren't really intersted but have the, "Hey look what I found syndorome!!!" and the people that support it, would have to shell out more money to pay for your learning/enjoyment.
The site has very few supporting vendors, even though the cost of advertising there is relatively inexpensve. That in it self should show you how focussed this part of the hobby is.
And a last note. If you don't have the time to register to the site? You sure don't have time to build a scale model!!!!

I'm in love with the site since starting on a scale project of my own. Folks there are first class. You only get 5 posts until you donate.. but can read all you want. Bookmaker offered and is sending me his jigs for laminating wingtips, rudder, and elevator parts for my Nieuport 17 build. ... I will return them to him with a little gift inside to show my appreciation.

Here's a different take: I was able to visit the site for a short time and even made a few posts etc. The site was very informative quite a joy really but painfully slow. I would be willing to help support the site, no issues there but it is very slow, it physically hurts 'cause its so slow...... Also, a lot of folks, myself included don't like putting their CC # online, if they had a Paypal option I would probably shoot the 20 buck their way hoping for better priority/faster server 'cause the site is soooo slowwww.... Did I mention the site is Sooooo ssssslow [:-]

It's right on the front page. Just click on the donate button and it takes you directly to the PayPal sign in page.

I do not find the site that slow. some of the forums do take longer but not too bad, and I am on dial-up so I know slow.
You can donate through paypal, as that is how I donated. Just send the admin a email and he can send you the link.

I never clicked it because it only has Credit Cards listed LOL, there's a change that would probably bring in more donations !
Thanks!

I recently registered and did the donation after doing a quick review of the forums.

I will say, however, it the SLOWEST RC oriented site I have ever visited. I am not visiting very much, simpy due to its poor response time. This must be addressed in order for to be sucessful.

I have a high speed internet connection.

DR

...sounds like Texas. ehehehe

Anywho, you guys do a good job!

happy building
happy landings
G-Pete

Um, hate to break it to you, but RC Scale Builder is VERY successful.

It is a great site and i am a member but the few things that urk me too are the slow speed that it works at, and, a max of 80k for each pic you want to post is a real pain. here on RCuniverse at least it automatically reduces the size of the pic that way i don't have to worry about it. but for a site that's dedicated to scale builders and we are always very fussy about details, small pic sizes does not really help.

That, and at times they can be pretty millitant about what gets posted... i understand why, but isn't having a group converstion an integral part of model building?

Looking forward to the new look for the site

thanks

dave

hey Dave, thanks for your support. to add to you statemtent
about "at times they can be pretty millitant ".

are goal is to have talk about the build, builds etc. we try to keep some of
the talk to a minimum at best. we dont want to say you cant converse freely
as that is part of modeling. we just try and keep the build on track is all.

if its not kept in check, it can go on for pages, and get into a whole different
conversation that doesnt pertain to the original intent of the thread. It happens
elsewhere on other forums, and its frustrating trying to look thru many pages of talk, to find
something that resembles the build thread.

we have archived some threads that where over 200 pages long. when we where
done, they where down to less than 100 pages of building material.

I would agree, it is slow and remember not to talk about a particular designs scale outline on a scale site or you will get your posts deleted. A particular Admin supposedly left RCU because a post of his got deleted and he didn't like the site trying to support itself with ads. So now on the new site it is even more heavily moderated and you have to pay to post content. I was asked to critique the Brian Taylor Corsair and was attacked and then deleted. My critique is honest and accurate, just to give you an idea the diameter of the cowl on the 1/6 plan is 3/4" off in diameter. While the overall length of the plane is correct the nose is too small, this in turn causes the entire plane to be to small all the way back behind the canopy.

So burn me at the stake

Todd I wish this forum as managed that way. Just about every thread goes off topic. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if these forums were policed a but more.

Oh i agree with you entirly t_burley,

But i have seen those "guidelines" applied very differently for different people.

Having said that, I do not wish to blow it out of porportion because, it would detract from that fact that there are a lot of REAL model builders there who are alway more than happy to help.

Thanks

dave

I'm thinking lots of thoughts [>:]

I totally agree with "ticketec" and "ReaperGrim" and gave up no longer entering the site for at least a year and a half, but what admires me most is that exactly what you can't do at RCSCALEBUILDER -being critique with scale outline, quality, detail or anything else about a product- is done totally unpunished by at least one of his Moderators here in RCUniverse. Is that due to RTF models being less respetable that old kits and scrap built scale models?. By the way, I understand "SCALE" as a reproduction of a real aircraft whatever the type and not only warbirds as sugested before, am I wrong?.

Best Regards,

Jesus Cardin

After the prodding of several in this thread, I went ahead and registered over there. I think I visited twice, and the site is unbelievably slow. I haven't returned because it's so painful to try to read a thread when it takes 2-3 minutes for a page to load. I have DSL, so I know it's not on my end. The organization and division of topics is also a hindrance, but that is very minor compared to the speed.

There is no question there is lots of great info there, but I don't know how you can get to it without falling asleep waiting...

actually, I/We appreciate any and all comments. whereas we all cant agree
whether its fast, slow, blue black or whatever, thats fine. critisism works both
ways, good and bad. we take the bad, and work on it, we take the good and
expand on it. We arent perfect, fast and perfected as RCU is. but we also dont
have the financial backing as RCU does here as well. they have a business they
run here. and a good one at that.

there are times that I, as an Admin there have a tough time with time out issues. it just happens
now and again. I know with the new site Mike is working on, and our own server
we are working on resolving alot of speed issues.

I know a couple of you have posted here that are no longer members at RCSB.
well, your original screen names anyways. I dont like that things didnt work out
for you guys. One of you in particular I hate seeing that I asked you over there, and
then things went sideways. Hate that it went that way, but things can change, because it
did for you here.

ulitmatley, we dont expect to be the biggest, baddest, fastest site here in the RC
world. just trying to do the best we can, and keep making changes. but, for the most
part back to the original post of this thread, we are not going under, we actually have
gained members recently, and are working on bettering what we have.

I appreciate Todd's candid reply on the speed of RCSB, but I am with RodanAZ as this being my single biggest complaint with RCSB. I have broadband wireless that is typically fast but not with RCSB. I have started timing my refresh speeds and they sometimes take up to 1 min. 45 sec. to load. It can drive you nuts. I would visit much more often and even post more if it were not for the slow speeds. The content is fantastic and I feel obligated to stay in tune with the Jerry Bates Plans thread just to keep an eye on what builders are doing with my Wildcat fuses. So I will stay a customer and hope for more speed.

Now what I find funny are the earlier posts along the lines of RCSB being the greatest site on earth and indications that RCU is this ARF world where the bottom dwellers feed. Now I admit that RCSB is top shelf, but it becomes hypocritical when those same pilots come back here to RCU again and again to surf these pages. Let's face it, there is good stuff here and you can easily weed out the junk. The way I look at it RCU is that this is the place to communicate with the whole range of builders and pilots. There are times that I want to dwell on an ARF or ARC like the TF Mustang and I want to connect with anyone who has the slightest interest in this airplane. By doing it here on RCU I accomplish that. Fresh postings I make on my build thread will get 75 - 100 views a day. You could only dream of numbers like that on RCSB. I also know for a fact that some of the top modelers in the nation periodically view these threads. Top Gun, Nationals, and U.S. Scale Masters competitors. They've commented at competitions or via PM's that they have see the theads. So they are here lurking.

Leo Spychalla

yes it went badly sideways, from day one I was discriminated against and I see that same set of behaviours emerging on this site and no doubt I will be banned in due course for speaking my mind against some thin skinned mod and has control issues.

whatever.

As we say in the corporate world the only way things can change is from the top down, the whole culture & mentatility needs to change for it to work. The only way for that to happen is for those at the top to have a whole different mindset.

I have my doubts it can be turned around on RCSB, too many overinflated egos, I see those same egos at work here pushing their agendas and acting as gestapo.

For creest sake we only want to to have a conversation with our mates and enjoy our hobby. What are we doing so wrong that our every word and thought has to be policed by big brother. Give me a break

Todd you are a nice bloke, and 99.9999% of guys on these forums are nice blokes. It is the 0.0001% that need a kick in the backside.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ,7

concur on the speed issue, we have a 1 GB ADSL2 connection, very fast but RSCB is deathly slow. I've seen government deptartments that are faster!

also I do not like the functionality or the heirachiacl structure of the threads and topics. RCU is much easier to navigate. As other have said the fact you have to rescale all of your pics beforehand it a real pain.

There are applications that can be put on the server to do that for the users.

These are all technical issues that can be easily oversome with some requirements analysis and flowdwn as well as an injection of cash.

the real issue is the culture.

Fix the culture and the users will come, fix the technical issues and they will stay, fix the culture and they will tell their friends.

When they tell their friends big business will advertise . . .

it is oh so bloody well simple.

"One of you in particular I hate seeing that I asked you over there, and
then things went sideways. Hate that it went that way, but things can change, because it
did for you here."

Todd , I did not like the way things went there either, I was very suprised by the overzealous and deliberate targeting that occured.

as for things changed here. That was true up untill about 2 weeks ago. No I am being targeted by 2 of the mods and having posts deleted left right and center, I have done SFA to piss these guys off so have no idea what their beef is. Again they are not applying these so called "rules" to every thread on RCU, just to mine.

Why do you think that could be?

Oh I'm speaking my mind again. They hate it when you do that. I'm beginning to really get into this Dr House persona.

cheers
Peter

its just the Vicodin talking Peter