Well guys, I have not died but I am still around. I have not worked on the c130 in a while due to grad school, moving houses, and work. I am glad to see a few of the c130's up and going. I think as soon as my new house gets settled in, I will try to work on it again.
Keep it up guys.
Bill

Well, Randy, if the 0.010 was really 8" and we expand it at the same ratio, going from the 0.010 engines to 0.25. we'd have a wingspan of 20'. A 1/12 scale would have a 26' span and be a little more than 18' long. Then a 30% with 93' span...

Wow.

Bill.

All:

Just found another interesting picture. It's from the Evergreen Museum, where the Hughes HK-1 is now.

This picture is mainly showing the A-22 in its earliest version, do remember it's a two seat plane. Then as you look your eye catches a large boat hanging in the air behind it. From the relative size it has to be a large yacht. As you keep looking, you realize it is the right wing tip float of the Spruce Goose. It will make the size of the Goose more real to you.

Bill.

....................we expand it at the same ratio, going from the 0.010 engines to 0.25. we'd have a wingspan of 20'.

DAMN! We might have to rethink this!!!!!!!!!!
thanks,
Randy

Yeah, me too c130nut, Just finishing up an arf in the mean time.

Gunny

Bill,
I was very fortunate to actually see the Spruce Goose in 1983 when it was still in Long Beach. It's just one of those things that you can't adequately describe or imagine unless you see it. One of the specs I think I remember is that the horizontal stab has a bigger span than a 727. Pretty impressive for having been built in the 40's. I'm just glad someone was able to keep it preserved.

Randy

Randy:

How about this? The wing chord is fifty-one feet. The flight engineer can walk upright inside the wing to an engineer's station at each engine, and service the engines. Wing thickness is eleven feet.

Bill.

One has to wonder how [link=http://imdb.com/title/tt0338751/]The Aviator[/link] is going to turn out and what aspect of his life it will focus on

Dear Bill;

I too was really lucky to see the Spruce Goose in 1980 when it was still at the Hughes hanger. A close friend of mine was an old Hughes male secretary and I was able to go see that piece of art. I was allowed in the airplane it self, and I crawled all over that plane for over two hours. Up in the rudder, in the wing, every where and even sat in the left seat. What a rush. Latter they moved it to the area next to the Queen Mary, and I was there to see it in the water too...after all these years. I always wanted to build a model of that plane, but all those engines...

Soft landings always,
Bobby of Maui

Bobby:

Good to hear from you again. Is your new job taking so much time that it has made you a stranger? Hope it's all going well.

What's wrong with eight engines? You've built a bunch with four, doubling that should not be a problem.

Bill.

I think building a beast like that would probably take a team effort, although come to think of it, I have 8 OS .25's, 6 FX's and 2 LA's. (Could probably sneak the two LA's in there and no one would notice!)
Randy

Hey JImcork, I had my bird at a show, unfortunately I was could not fly because of club restrictions which meant I had to be there the day before to show that I COULD fly, anyhow I met a bunch or real time C130 guys .pilots and crews who came and told me all kinds of great stories, you guys sure loved that bird, the neatest one was one guy who said the plane was a replica, right down to the registration numbers that he had logged 3400 hours in Mike

Mike did you fly the herk any photos.. This thread has been rather slow lately.. Perhaps summer ending and all the hurricanes..

Jim..................... way down south watching the hurricane tracks.

HI Jim, yes I flew the Herk, it was a big ***** cat, it was off and flying in about 50 feet, no flaps, some low runs for picture taking and it came back on like it was on rails, again, no flaps needed, I am flying off a very small grass strip, what a rush !!!!!

Nice pics, Mike.That yellow sure shows up in flight. Unless we have a bright sunny day, mine just becomes a silhouette in the sky and I can't really tell top from bottom, since it's gloss black on the bottom and camo on top. Haven't gotten to fly mine for a couple weeks. Intended to Sunday, but darned if I was going to in a direct 15-20kt crosswind. Probably would have been fine, but it's still in the trailer in one piece. Can't see taking a chance on spoiling a lot of time and building effort just to get in a flight. Besides, I had plenty of other stuff to fly. I need to get some good still pics like yours next time I'm out.
Later,
Randy

What was the final weight.. Also did you check the wing incident to tail?

Hey Jim , its up weight was 16.5 lbs, I went with 1/1/2 postive on tne main wing, zero in th tail plane and zero zero on the engins, 2 degrees of washout on the tips, 5 flawless flights so far and I still have to try out the flaps, the only problem I have encountered is crosswinds, the only way I could take off was with full dwon elevator to hold the nose wheel on until I got up flying speed, I went with the SAR yellow for the same reason you state, I have a few warbirds in camo and the turn onto the runway is against a vary dark mountain side and they just vanish, re picture, you may notice no cowlings on for the first flights MIke

Well guys, I'm back. After a long hibernation.... oh... did I say that? Well, I dusted off the C-130 frame and plans this weekend and started putting ribs in the vert. stab. I think I am at least going to get some major work done by the end of this week. One question arose last night when I was mocking up the fit between the rear body and horizontal stab. Did any of your stabs fit perfect in the saddle? I followed the approximate cuts on the plans, and the rear of the stab hangs over the rear of the saddle. Is this normal?
And did anybody put ribs in the fuse to support the fiberglass?
Bill R.

Did any of your stabs fit perfect in the saddle?

========That is something that took me a long time to get fit right. When it appreared to be right, it wasn't. I ended up cutting off more of the front of the stab to get it to fit properly. I believe if you set it where you think it should be, you'll end up with negative incicence in the stab. I got pics at home and I'll post one when I get there.


............................... and the rear of the stab hangs over the rear of the saddle. Is this normal?

I think my stab hangs over a little.

And did anybody put ribs in the fuse to support the fiberglass?

-----------I put some reinforcement around the wing saddle area and where the vertical stab meets the fuselage, but other than that, I didn't put any other bulkheads in.

Randy

Bill,
Here's a pic of the rear of the plane. The trailing edge of the stab is 3-7/8" from the rear tip of the fuselage that overhangs it. That is where mine ended up and it flew right off with almost no elevator trim required.
Randy

Ryan, did you make your stab removable?

Gunny

Ryan, did you make your stab removable?
===Yes, it is removeable. After reading Jims thread about how he had to change his, I decided to make mine removeable also, although I've only taken it off a couple times since building just for maintenance checks. Probably a good idea to do so, it's a long way to the back. I tote mine around in a trailer so I really didn't have to do it that way, but am glad I did.
Randy

Guys, I wish I had found this site sooner, four of us in our club decided to build the Skip Mast C-130. We meet on Wednesday nights, have pizza & beer and work on the plane. At first we got a lot complished but as time wore on two guys stopped working on their airplane but continued to to come to the wednesday night meetings.
Well, I have mine ready to fly, but I don,t know the CG, it is not marked on the plans. The other guy is just about ready for his first flight. So we are at a stand still. I hope someone out there can help with the balance point.
As I said this is from Skip Mast plans, My Herky bird is powered with 4 OS LA 40's and weighs 22 1/4 lbs. I have installed the flaps but from what I have read in this thread they may not be needed. Ideas? flying tips?
I have been very impressed with the models you guys are building. As I said I wish I had found this site sooner. I was a Herky Loadmaster with 50th, from 68 to 71 flying out of CCK Taiwan. This airplane is special to me.
Thanks, my e-mail is [email protected]
Rich

Rich. my bird is the same size as the Mast one, mine balances ar 4 1/4 inches from the leading adge, it requiied no trim changes to fly it, good luck Mike

I built the Quality Fiberglass C-130/AC-130, 102" wingspan. Don't know how that compares to the Skip mast version, but the plans on mine shows CG at 3 1/2" back of the Leading edge at the center of the wing. My wing chord is 12 1/4" at the root. I balanced it where shown and it flew with very little trim changes. Mine weighs 17.25# dry.
I'm flying OS .25 FX. At your weight, the .40's will probably be good.
Randy