Thanks, I'll give it a shot this weekend.

I had to add 2 washers under the lower left mount bolt and 1 under the lower right mount bolt to get the Cap to track straight on up lines and not be so pitch sensitive. It was also tucking severely on knife edge flight.

I just looked at mine and it looks to have a huge amount of right thrust built in already but I'll give it a try. I used a mix to get the coupling out when I first built the plane so it's not really an issue but those left tip stalls out of a hover sure are. I would bet it's just me but it always breaks exactly the same.

Just finished watching Kyle's video of his warm-up flight from the 2006 DOD Fly-In for the 10.000th time. Sick again. I really need to ask him for some lessons.

Thanks Lou.
I thought I was ok but wanted to be sure before I started bolting things on. Your canopy is cool, how did you tint it? I would like to tint mine but not very dark. I tried food dye on a G.P. yak once but it turned out like crap so I ordered a replacement. I did this once a long time ago on a C.G. Chipmunk and it worked great. Guess it depends on the material.
Headin' into the hanger to start cuttin'...Goin' gas[8D]
Thanks for the help.
Rod

Actually I just painted it with black paint on the inside. You can use gloss or flat black primer. Doesn't matter as the clear plastic makes it look shiney. You cannot however, see through it.[&o]

I flew the Cap a ton this weekend. This is the 1st plane that has given me enough confidence to get my harriers very close to the ground. I am still working on getting the engine thrust set, but am getting close. This airplane flies so much better when you dial in the lateral thrust, it makes all the difference in the world in harriers and hovering. Landing is still taking time to get used to, I find it's easier to land deadstick, lol.... or else it just floats right on by with my Moki ticking over at 1600 rpm's on an 18x6W prop.

Use the airbrake mix and your landings will be a thing of beauty!!

well, as I stated earlier, I received my Cap a couple weeks ago and the fuse was broken in half. I got my replacement from Tower today and I am real happy with the looks and quality. I am going to go with a DL-50 for power, should be fun.

Thanks a lot Bubba and others....

Ok, my Cap arrives today (hopefully in one piece) and I can't wait to get started. I have read the manual several times and this entire thread at least twice. I also have a NIB DL-50, YS 140FZ Sport, and a Saito 1.80 and Cline regulator. During the break-in the YS appears to have a slight edge in power over the Saito. My dilema is gas or glow. I know I can use a smaller tank and get about 8 oz. of the wet weight back over the glow engine. I know lighter planes fly better, but how well does this Cap handle the extra 24 oz or so that the DL would add?

I know there are a couple folks here that have flown both setups, and I would like to get your take on the flying qualities between the two setups. Specifically, will the gas engine wall as well as the glow, and does it get more snappy with the gas? I'm working on my 3D skills and want a setup that is not going to slow my learning.




Edit: It arrived in great shape sans a few wrinkles to work out.



Thanks a bunch!

Kendall

Well, I can tell ya one thing, this plane don't snap! I've tried to make it snap, Kyle Woyshnis tried to make mine snap, our chief instructor tried to make mine snap, not happening gas or glow. I had both.

Which did you prefer? What all would you use if you started building one today?

Thanks,
Kendall

This Cap, like every other Cap I have flown does just fine. One thing you must remember that the low rate throws are very little but it will pull a very tight 90 degree turn with 3/8th inch throws on the elevator. What most people do not understand that if a plane, snaps on elevator application there is something else wrong beyond it being the trait of the plane. Caps have a bad rap because the elevators are so powerful and most people think that the tiny amount of throw is not enough. Trust us, this Cap is a huge puddy tat and will float forever at about 15lbs and below and pull some of the tightest 90 degree turns with 3/8th inch throws on the elevator that you have ever seen. It will tumble well on that throw and if you are good at hovering it will hover as well on that setting.

I have not seen one of these Caps with a gas engine on it that was over 15lbs. Mine is 13.75lbs on a DA50 and will go straight up with NO takeoff roll and I can do snap after snap on the way up as long as I do not let it get into a deep snap.

In fact I did not have my competition plane ready this past weekend so I flew the Cap and did a high scoring respectable 6th on the book low rates and also taking into consideration the wind we had and everyone else flying Extra's and Yaks. Total point spread from first to 9th was less than 1000 points with 3rd through 7th being less than 200 points and that is not having this plane setup properly. (I actually had it all stripped out to use the stuff in my competition plane so I just slapped it back together and got 3 trim flights on it before we started the first round and no mixing was used)

We've said it time and again over in the GP Utlimate thread, GP did well on the preformance series planes, this Cap and the Yak included.

You're gonna love it, I know I do and that is coming from someone that flies Caps a lot.

I'd do gas in a heartbeat. Lots less mess and I can be flying in 5 minutes which makes this plane a great lunch time plane. 2 wires, 2 wing bolts fill it, flip it a total of 7 times (4 chjhoke on, 3 choke off) and go have fun. Yes the intial layout is a bit more but if you fly a lot you will see the savings pretty quickly and with the new clone gas engines coming out like the DL50 or the 3MM 53 then your initial layout gets even less and more in the range of the OS160 glow engine

Personally I would go with gas.

Thanks for your replies. I'll be ordering the rest of the needed supplies today to install my DL50 into this bird. Please let me know if you see any problems with this setup:

DL50
J'Tec pitts muffler
MK horns w/ bearings
CF push rods
Dubro heavy duty servo horns
5645's on ailerons
5625's on elevators
5955 on rudder (overkill but will use on larger planes later)
Fromeco 2600 / regulator on rx, 2000 NiMH on ignition

Thanks,

Kendall

Wow really?!?!?!?! Mine's a snappin' fool! it does the prettiest snap's on the down lines with power off. This is one of the few planes I have owned, actually the only one so far, that doesn't care which way it snaps. Left or right, it doesn't care.

I don't think that's quite what he meant But you are right, this thing does so pretty snaps

Thanks Bubba, maybe you should explain the difference between snapping and a snap roll.

You're prbably right

snapping in this case is applying elevator suddenly and the plane dropping a wing without any other input and unexpectedly, most likely violently, a snap roll is a maneuver that is done on prupose. A right snap roll is done by adding full up elevator (low rates and quickly letting out the elevator and adding full right ruder and full right aileron. If you leave the elevator in the whole time then it's called a deep snap and the plane will not come out on the same line that it started on. Oh yea, you come off the power and back into it as you release the surfaces to stop the snap.

With the right stick you will draw a "checkmark"

This Cap does over-rotate a bit on snap rolls, more so to the right.

This cap 232 it can do haver and harrier ?

Most definately with the right engine.

I guess it's time to repost Vinny's video

This is an OS160 powered one seriously lightened to 11lbs (I think) There's not much hovering but a whole lot of harriers and rolling harries

http://www.hiddenhangarrc.com/video/...vincentcap.wmv

Maybe I should put Kyle's on here as well. http://media.putfile.com/Kyle-3Ding-My-CAP-232 I think Vinny's demonstrates what he wants to see better though.

alright, after seeing the two videos of this plane flying with a OS 1.60 I am reconsidering my options. I have both a OS 1.60 and a new DL 50 without a plane at this time and if I went with the OS I could save the DL-50 for another build. If you had both options available to you would you still go with the large gas engine?