Im comfortable flying inverted with my flip to the point of tail scrapes, it needs very litlle down elevator (if any) at walking pace. Yes, that is my flip, i can prove it because the tip is a horrible lime green like mine. However i cant come very close inveted at that side of the patch, when the winds sthe outher direction and im at the outher side of the patch i can do then very close without getting too worried. And as my camerman couldnet find the zoom (shame, its got 10x optical zoom) its very distant.

Anyway, back to capiche talk as were veering too far off topic. All that i need done to my fuz now is for a bit more sanding, to glue the blocks on the back and glue on F1

Ian

Managed a harrier landing today . Just lined it up, let it sink in, then as it approached the strip eased off the elevator a bit and gave a bit more power to level off a bit and she was down.

Also managed one torque roll . Now I am starting to feel really comfortable with it.

Had a couple of problems though. First, on the second flight I was getting a lot of twitching. So I landed and did a range check. Got about 2 meters. Tried a few things, replacing the crystal did the trick.

So back up in the air, and half way through the flight, the canopy came off [&:]. Still I found it again, and all is back in one piece. I did try an inverted harrier, but it was all over the place. As I did it just before the canopy came off, I wonder if it was coming off and was therefore upsetting things. I'll try again tomorrow.

Oh and I was also trying knife edge circuits and figure eights, but they are still a bit messy so need more practise. I may cut out that RCME article on blenders and try them again tomorrow .

Incidentally, I have now set up two 3D settings on my tranny, one with 60% aileron travel. I tend to use this more than the 100% travel, it is a bit less sensitive.

cool, well done. I did some cool new things tody on my flip. Ive finaly got the wobble out of the wings and ive been experimenting. Ive done harriers, inverted herriers, rolling harrriers (w/o spoilerons) and rolling harrier circles, but only one of em was done well. I also did some really low rlooing circles and i managed inverted elevator and an ELEVATOR LANDING!!!! i was so happy i danced over to my plane It took loads of my nerve to do that, but it was great fun. the wings went metal with wobbles when i got to about 3 feet. I think it was the addition of power or me just shaking. lol

Anyway, no capiche done in last few day. Ian

Both Sprink and I had an amazing capiche flying day today.
I discovered that reducing the elevator from 60 to about 40 degrees(what sprink had) helps alot. Before the nose kept wanting to climb and it was very sensitive to throttle setting, resulting in me having to juggle the elevator around which upset the plane. Now thanks to sprink its much better. His harriers were absolutely awesome- dead straight and very low down the runway.
will have some very good vids coming your way archie.
got a few select pics one of my yellow one and some of sprink's right on the limit(and its still in one piece too.)

Has anyone seen a Capiche with an OS 46FX yet?

As you can see from the photos, I was having lots of fun with harriers today . Thanks Luke for taking the photos.

I hope we can get the short video clips on the web somehow. The first is really quite good, even if I say so my self. The second I started to lose it so cut the throttle and dropped it on to the strip. It was only from about 4 feet so perfectly OK. I also managed to drag the rudder along the strip in one of my harrier passes . unfortunately Luke didnt get that on photo or video, but took a photo just before and just after.

I too managed an elevator landing, first of those . Havent had much luck with inverted yet, it kept trying to snap out.

I really need to practise rolling circles. Luke does them really well, including doing snaps on every second roll, and my favourite, hesitations on knife edge. Trouble was I was having too much fun harriering around . Also tried a few high alpha knife edge elevators. Starting to get the hang of them.

Luke was also doing some rolling harriers, which were starting to look really good. I'm still a way off from that, but hope to get there soon.

One less than happy note, managed to pull the undercarriage and mounting plate out again [&:]. Deadsticked and landed short in the rough and off it came. So repairs needed again.

No, but I'm sure that there are people who have used it. For two stroke, best option is the West 50. I'm really happy with the Saito 72 performance in mine.

Yes a couple of customers have used the 46FX and they report good results... I think it will be best with the Capiche mini Pipe fitted though if you are wanting good throttle response for 3D stuff.
Otherwise there is ample power

i had a guy visit the field today for me to fly his capishe, he says it under performs and will not prop hang on an OS 91 FS. he explained it would not harrier but generaly flew well.

i asked him how much movement he had and he said absolutely loads. mega twitchy on full rate he said. all sounds good i thought.

i took the transmitter and on full up on full movement i had about 20 degrees. i started to adjust the linkages to get more movement but the servo could not move the surface. i removed the linkage and moved it by hand. i could not get more than 20 degrees with about 100 oz of torque !! oh well i thought. i then asked him to run the engine so i could set it up to provide enough power to hang. at this point i picked it up to put it on the table OOUCH!! this plane weighs more than my capiche 140!! i asked how many bottles of cyano he used to build it "no no no i dont use that, good old epoxy is what you want, you have got to build them strong you know, just incase you crash it"

with that i invited him over next sunday so he can have a go of my capishe 50 and recomended that he buys another kit and builds it propperly!!

to my supprise he agreed and said he will, as he likes the way it flys as it is. boy is he going to like one that is hasf the weight!!

build light, build to fly not crash!!

cyano creates a joint thats stonger than the wood itself, so using something like epoxy just adds weight which is more inertia for the airframe to absorb in a crash. By building it with epoxy hes actually made it less crash resistant........


my Irvine dead sticked on me and I ended up cartwheeling my Capiche down the runway yesterday - fortunately no damage. However I think I have finally worn the Irvine out - it spews oil everywhere and doesnt have the power or throttle reponse it used to have []

300+ flights on my Capiche - anyone better that ?

Need to get a few more bits to get my C50 flying, not sure what prop to go for.
Sprink said at the field a Bolly 13.5x6, where do i get these from?
What APC option is best w/ Saito 72? Which prop perfoms best on this engine/ plane?

Archie, the M3 threaded rod IH sell, is it threaded at both ends?

Andy

APC 13x6 and I think the 14x5N will be better still but I have not had a chance to try it yet. Dont like Bolly props

3mm rods - yes - the IH pushrod kit for the C50 gives you all you need for direct drive all round with quality links for both ends..
We will make up a set to order also.... email is the best thing rather than on here.

The Boy........... Yup that kinda thing happens all to often - you can lead a horse to water... but..........

Super 60 at 7lbs is the best here, we think he carved it from oak, he claimed he doubled up on everything in the fuz and wing to take crashes. [X(]
Maybe that Capiche deserves a meantion on the website

still waiting on graphics, see where they are tomorrow

The APC is a good prop to go for for starters, also if you can find a wooden 13x6 laminated prop(cant remember the make) they are much lighter and still pretty good. I dont know if it is just me but the APC 13x6 doesnt have quite enough braking at idle for my liking. vertical downlines still look rushed.
I am impressed with Sprinks bolly 13.5x6. He gets better acceleration and vertical than me, but i think he is using coolpower 15%heli, whereas i am using Irvine contest 10%. I also think my engine needs more running in, and my new tank might be restricting fuel flow slightly. I have had just over a gallon through it now. I am looking to try one of those bolly props though and of course this 14x5N apc archies talking about.

I flew a YT Ultimate at the weekend with a Magnum 80 fourstroke on the level it didnt seem all that powerful but when the nose went up it just carried on going. It sounded and felt good on this motor which make me feel it will do well on the YS 63 / Saito 72 / Capiche...

I agree the 13x6 is giving a little too much thrust at the bottom end.

where can i get a bolly from

Thanks for sending through those vids Luke. I had to larf at myself when i dumped it on the ground in that second pass Looking at it, I think I was a bit too late and rushed in putting in the power, and that is why it started to go. Then if you look carefully, the tail plate touches the ground, and it was just after that that I cut the power. The other vid makes me look like I know what I am doing though . Shame they are such big files for short clips. If you are flying next weekend, I'll try to remember to take my camera down and we'll see if we can get some more clips and photos.

Capiche undercarriage mounting plate now reinstalled . Had to use epoxy this time to get it to stick though [], so now on the slippery slope to a 7 lb beast LOL. Mind you, it is starting to look a bit messy in there. If it come out again, I think it will need a complete re build, not just put the bits back together.

I think that the bolly 13.5x6 works very well on the Saito 72 and the capiche. IMHO the apc 13x6 causes it to over rev a bit, though is good for running in. If it was a normal shape APC rather than the thin version it would probably be the best. Andy, you can get the bolly props from Steve Webb models. I have a spare if you want to borrow one to try it out. Let me know. I do agree that the brown colour is not the best [:'(].

I will see about getting some of those bollys, and that APC 14x5

Oops looks like Sprink and me made our posts at the same time. Yes those vids are great! Next time i will decrease the resolution on the camera settings. Once i get my laptop up and running we will be able to watch the vids onsite!

you gonna send those vids to me then ?

[email protected]

thanks

PS - Dont like Bollys - too flexible and as Sprink says... they are BROWN ! Ugghhh

Luke, I'll leave it to you to send Archie the vids, don't want to bombard him with big emails.

And if you can get your laptop going, we can hopefully get some longer videos done . Not that my flying is yet worth it.

Finally managed to get a slot with my mate to tranf some video taken of My C50 last year onto digi format... some reasonable shots in there incl harrier landings, elevators, etc
Going up tomorrow night !

Luke sent me the videos - very good..

The Harrier fly by is not bad at all....

The elevator descent... looking good and then Luke turns to Sprink part way down AHH, then goes back to the model and it starts to go pear shaped... Shame...
Your wings are wobbling here because know it or not you introduced aileron to steer the model down the flight line, and when that starts it doesnt stop til you quit aileron and balance with rudder..

Good flying though... I shall see if I can get the harrier pass reduced in file size and get it put on the site... well done boys !

If you get any more real good footage then send it on... be selective though !

cheers

Dont think I used the ailerons, though it is possible. Think being too brutal with the power was the main cause.

Glad you liked the other one.

If we can get ourselves organised, we'll see what we can do about other vids. Luke is getting pretty good at the high alpha knife edge stuff.

Thanks for the encouragement. Those vids are in VGA format. Next time i will use QVGA format, which is the same sort of detail and size as those capiche 140ex vids already online. Will be there at the field next sunday morning for more fun.

It is actually really hard to overcome the instinct to leave the ailerons alone. I think that is partly my trouble with those harrier difficulties. Oh well, practise makes perfect- something that Sprink is doing well at at the moment. Judging by how much better hes got in such a short space of time hes going to be one to watch at the freestyle comp this september.

You are right about those ailerons - you just dont realise you are doing it...

Things like this are part, I think, of the reason why people say that after a while of flying the C50 they start to understand the way it works and they get so much more out of it... In short I think this is because they realise they dont have to try so hard any more...

If you have as much as 80deg elev throw, as I do, then elevators are no brainers... parachute it hold on and watch - just dont change the shape of that wing by applying aileron... if you have to steer do it with rudder only...

That rudder is so powerful and well behaved you really can pump it around in the harrier.... I cant wait to show you my vid coming in from a parachute, into a harrier and then flying harrier around myself and over the camera man !

Maybe that will be too bog a file to fit in one clip !

Anyway - yes do keep up the good work but I hope you appreciate that the clips and the execution has to be good to put it on the site - we dont want people with ordinary modems waiting for 15 mins to download to get average clips...

Im up for putting your harrier on though as I said, unless you come up with something even better !

I am very sure we will come up with something even better- and this time it will be a smaller size file too. Weather permitting e.t.c we should have some more vids for you next sunday. Will try to get some knife edge elevators and such like .
Luke