no.. it was what Malcom said that remind me what i saw a couple of years ago, plus recent events..
yes anyways.....

Archie,

Cheers mate, thoroughly enjoyed the weekend!!! (Apart from loosing me wing!!! :thumbdown )

...........and that goes for everyone who was there actually.

Hey, thank you........

Check yer email.....

Oh no.. just got that image back in my head - told you it would happen !

Hi all,

As I mentioned to Archie and the Baron, I'm off to the States tomorrow, so while I'm there I'll try and pick up a few bits, including a digital camera. That way, when I get back if no-one has started a building thread then I don't mind doing it. Its my first kit build (ARTFs for 4 planes, 1 epp wing, and 1 kit that was built for me) so I'll invite you to take the p1$$ as much as you like! Of course if someone else starts one then we can all tag along for the ride too! Altough I've made a start, I've only dry assembled a bit of the fuz, not done any glue yet.

Andy

Dry assembled how much? How did it go from a novice point of view?? First impressions??

I am far to close to the project now to see the wood for the trees as it were!!

Yeah phil your crash was a shame but very spectacular! Bit like mine last year at sandown.Was very impressed by the prophanging - better than CPLR. Boy was very good as well with his standard servo setup. Did you guys see that young guy make that colossal mistake and crash his majestic(the one with the space scheme)? He seemed to me like risky flyer to me, it looked like he was flying with no margin for error( you know,still low down but one or two mistakes away from the crowd) when he did that tumble and exited over the crowd- he found out the hard way(shame it was such a nice plane) but i am glad he didn't hit anybody and managed to pull out to smack into the runway.
I felt very sorry for him though- he looked pretty upset and embarrassed. i think most of us know how he felt!
Happy Capiching( is that how you spell it or is it capicheing?)
Luke

Yeah, it was pretty spectacular!!!

Hey Baron, do I get "the most spectacular crash of the weekend" award?????????????

I thought I'd got away with it, but it was spread rather along way down the racecourse. Hehehe.

Sorry Phil!!

Best crash goes to the guy flying the turbine for Century helis!!!!! He planted five grand plus of turbine heli straight in the golf course OUCH!!

Or close second would have been the Majestic that went

A WOL???

Yours was beyond your contro sad but truel!!! I must admit it was pretty bloody spectacular I will give you a third place Glad you can see the funny side LOL

Have a good holiday. Talk when you get back.

I'll be doing a review on mine for my site when i get it, so if you start a thread Andy i'll tag a link on, that goes for any other reviews people know of

Archie: is there any problem in me using images from the Flycapiche site when i do my reiview? CNC parts pics... finished planes, the Island hobbies logo, and that spinning Capiche is a must, just it isnt a pic so i cant save it and dunno how to get it.

Philly, on the basis of your reason for borrowing bits off the site then please help yourself.

Acknowledgement should go to Andy Fox, who is the FlyCapiche Webmaster, and creater of the Mini Rotating Capiche 50.

Ive looked back over the last few pages of Capiche discussion and said I would respond on any point raised. Much has already been covered by some of the team but here's my angle on everything.

1) Disintegrations. Yes, we had two wings part company n the Sunday which was a real bummer. This prompted an immediate examination of the remaining fleet of Capiche's. The two that went down did not have the balsa packing over the wing bolt plate to fill the gap between the wing skin and the plate to stop the plate bending when pulled up on the bolts. Everyone else had this packing in place. This is an important part of construction and should not be ommitted. Secondly, particularly if using bolts larger than 4mm, the captive nuts should be epoxied in place to regenerate strength in the plate taken away by the larger drill hole. Finally, as the boy found, whilst his had the packing, the plate had not been properly glued, and whilst I dont agree there is an inherent issue with the build then glue style of construction it DOES rely on people to use thin cyano wicked into ALL the joins. The building instruction has been changed a little to underline and emphasize some of these steps, which is on the flycapiche site now.
We are all pleased that this problem is not a design fault after all the testing that has been done - one relief at least. Both Dave and Phil will be supplied with a new fuz to get them in the air again - the wing in each case was untouched.

2)VAT and charges. Philly the charge that you received on those videos was an import duty I believe - not the same as VAT, and in place of the sales duty that would not have been charged at source. From Jersey, all you could be liable for in the UK is VAT. We will do what we can to ensure that the VAT footprint will be as small as possible for mail order customers.

3) Electric Capiche. I know Im "bound" to say it, but the Capiche 50-e really is great. Of course its a little heavier than the ic version with 16 cells on board (we think we can go down to 14 easily) but in comparison to similar models of the size in IC she aint that heavy at all. With the aeronaut 17x9 and Kontronik Fun 500/6.7:1, torque rolls are indeed very easy. In fact the eagle eyed boy noticed as much at the show saying he couldnt see the tail surfaces doing much work. Its true - there wasnt much need.
A few of us think that the 5.2:1 gearbox with 15x8 will be a better proposition overall as this will give a wider rpm range and better variable speed. This is the set up I will use in my proto -e, and after having flown Malcs on Friday, Sat and Sun, I really am looking forward to it. By the way, I am traditionally an IC man, and often feel elec isnt so capable. Not true of the Capiche 50-e. There is plenty you can do. Slow high angle k/e, and harriers included !

4)Mr Duo's long entry - I think Ive got competition here ! In short, the ST slot DID have a Capiche 50 in it, the PA man DID fail to say much, and it was that Capiche with ST 51 and throttle pipe that did the harrier on to the boards. That particular model belongs to Jerseyman Chris Munns and is flies exceptionally well, and nice and smooth (he has cg a tiny bit further forward (about 130mm) and it still harriers nicely ! Man on PA about Capiche is not a FUN FLY was ME ! And trusty old Phil Vandries had to go and make me look like a waz and the plane look like what it really is - AMAZING ! Its a valid point though, the model does it but its not a fun fly wing. Finally Mr Duo, I am a little concerned about your fixation with the boy ! Are you a boy or girl or what !?

5) Philly. Best you email me that shopping list and we'll see what we can do. Wait for the FLYCAPICHE News #11 though.

Bloody hell....... I need a rest now !

Have I covered everything ?

i have cut most of the formers, now i have sore fingers!
i know its worth it though.
cartman

Can it really be worth all that effort !?

How many hours have you spent so far - honestly !
and how much cost in liteply ?

I think you have a ply former there that is supposed to be balsa ! The one without lightening holes !


I guess the test of accuracy will be when you see how well the slot and tabs line up and then how straight it comes out !

Dont blame us if you have any problems ! But best of british luck to ya !

Cartman thats "Only" 13 bits!!!! just another 102 to go then

Try costing you wages per hour against the cnc pack!! Then imagine how poor your bits will fit relative to the VERY ACURATE cnc pack??????

I have tried cutting them by hand and as a goldsmith and adept with a piercing saw I found the bits all but impossible to cut by hand to the same standard

I rest my case.

Good luck

:sunsmiley Capiche airframe and plan for sale on E-Bay.
Look in the Radio Control section of E-Bay UK #3130017975.

Thats not a Capiche 50!!! LOL

That's the freebie from Nexus for a 25 motor @48" span.

Not in the same league as the new 3d 50.

Trust me!!!!!

Yep the one bottom left is balsa Not Lite ply.

oh dear, Baron dont know his left from his right.... gives us all a boost of confidence that !

Yep the one bottom left is balsa Not Lite ply.



you mean f1?

OOOOOPS Must be the vino!!! I really did mean bottom right honest

4 hours to cut those formers and about 3 quid in lightply,
they are very accurate, obviously not to cnc standards though.
i cant afford the wood pack and i really want this model so this is the way i hve to do it!

You go for it!!


Best of british to you.

Let us know how you get on?

PS very accurate is open to inspection!!

I cant copy the cnc!!!!

I have tried!! Baron.

F1 is supposed to be ply.

The one you have done in ply instead of balsa is F6a according to my memory - i.e. the back of the canopy.

So it took you 4 hours to cut 13 parts.

That means you should have about another 40 hours to go at least, and surely £+++ of lite ply.

And that before you count the cost of the balsa bits in materials !

If we talk minimum wage, whats that about a fiver?, thats over £200 labour !

Are you sure you cant afford the cnc pack !? It is priced as it is for a reason y'know - it's pretty comprehensive.!!

can any of you give me a drawing of the cnc cut parts- annotated with the material and how many of each component

What !? Help you avoid the value for money purchase of the cnc kit !? Me thinks you are beginning to realise the truth....!

The diagram of cnc parts os on the capiche website under "Build It".

Im afraid that's all youre gonna get !