Over a week and still we have silence. I figured we'd have a post in at least one of the threads by now. Other than this thread not a post in the forum since the 23rd of last month.

Not a whole heck of a lot going on here anymore.

Mike

That was what I was hinting at. Just seems too quiet to be normal in this forum

What's with the ads now? That's enough to keep me away.

Mike

Kind of pointless to have conversations when words don’t mean what they mean.

Astro

I don't have an "ad" issue as much here as I do in other sites so I can live with it. Can't argue with that, Astro. Kind of like the Biden press secretary, she has to "circle back" on just about every question she's asked. Time to bring back Kayleigh McEnany since she knew how to show up ready to go every time and not just show up and go through the motions

With the added bonus that she was a bit easier on the eyes, too!

Astro

Did you read Lawrence Tougas' column in the November 2020 issue of Model Aviation? It contains a summary of one of the numerous successful SRM meetings that have lead to LOA's for operations over 400' at AMA fields.

You could also call and talk to Tyler Dobbs, I'd bet he would be willing to discuss it with a member. I have participated in two teleconferences in the past 3 months where Tyler has discussed this, and other regulation-related issues.

I'm sure you realize that this forum, with its plethora of "expert" naysayers is the absolute *last place* an AMA person would discuss these issues.

If you want the latest information, ask the source...

Bob

You say, "this is the absolute *last place* an AMA person would discuss these issues". What is your reasoning behind that statement?

Astro

would seem to me, that the kinda folks you describe as being in here, would make this one of the first places they would want to be spreading their information around in.

I have to agree with Mongo. It's us so called "expert naysayers" that actually need to be convinced that joining the AMA is what we need to do. It's a known fact that the AMA is on the verge of bankruptcy and needs new members badly due to wasteful spending and no real fiscal planning. We possible new members really don't need the AMA for anything since they don't provide anything I can't get elsewhere. Therefore, as I said, the AMA needs to convince us "expert naysayers" to join the AMA and discussing these issues in a transparent and honest way would be a good place to start

Anyone notice how they operate? Single data points proving a rule? He references one success and implies that somehow indicates greater success. Keep in mind the one club to which he refers is heavily populated with our self proclaimed RC nobility, the turbine crowd.

So Bob,
Exactly how many fields in Class G have formal agreements to fly above 400 AGL?
Exactly how many fields in controlled airspace have formal agreements to fly above 400AGL?

You gave us one example. How about the other 3,000 clubs?

Yep, just another fanboi propoganda flyby....
Pigeon chess. swoops in, makes a claim, is asked to qualify said claim and just flutters off with nary a response. Classic.

Astro

I love the fact that he didn't comment on what Mongo and I said. He probably didn't think he could without looking foolish

HUH????? Why waste time and effort on what a dozen Minions who have a hard time being engaged without direction from Grew?????? Good lord can anyone see an any advantage for the AMA these guys would bring to the table???? LOL doubt anyone would set a place at the AMA dinner table for any of them.

You forget, the AMA is not telling ANYONE about their wins, so your premise is moot.

Astro

I don't need anyone to help or directions for me to get "engaged". It's actually very simple:

• Hide information from us
• Lie to us
• Treat us like we don't exist

Sounds to me like I don't need anyone to motivate me other than the AMA itself

If you wait for the AMA to provide you with motivation, you have a long wait. In fact I’d go so far as to suggest you look into another hobby. The AMA is a dead horse. Not dying but dead. It's just not smart enough to lie down. They have nothing to offer 4/5 of the million plus FAA sUAS registrants. Just as their Yay-Sayers here have nothing to offer in the way of proof and supporting data. And remember, the AMA went after the drones thinking to inflate their lagging membership/revenue. And blew it! And in the meantime they abandoned their base, the traditional fixed/rotary winged RC modelers/flyers.

So someone in the organization says something? So what? Big deal! As the old lady on TV use to say, “Where’s the Beef?” We hear nothing but rumors and propaganda coming out of Muncie with nothing to substantiate it. And the Yay-Sayers in their best kindergarten character do nothing but simply parrot Muncie believing that if Muncie said it, it must be so. No further proof required. Fools!

So if you want to fly RC, print out a copy of the FAA rules and make sure you understand them. Then find a suitable spot and go fly. The Yay-Sayers will try to make you out as some sort of criminal (isn't that what was said in that issue of "The Hill"?). But hey, you'll be enjoying the hobby.

Like I've said, I've lurked here for several years.

Hey Junk your not a member you don't exist and your not in any position to demand answers or anything else related to membership in the AMA. LOL you guys are like a bunch of circle flies

Don't you have to have written permission from the land owner? How about liability insurance, isn't it a requirement as well? I wonder if someone has put together everything that is required to fly under FAA rules only. Just a list bullet points will do.

Ah well back to cleaning the shop. Need it clean before I start my next project. What's happen to you guys? I used to drop in during an intermission of meaningful work to catch a laugh or two but I log on and the AMA forums seem to have died out. Is that what happens when Grew isn't around to stir the pot and give you direction? The circle flies have lost the attractant that kept them together.

What's happened is we don't feel like being your entertainment any more. That means you can go out to your shop and stay there as there's nothing for you to see here

Ahhhhh but Junk your entitlement is worse than some of the younger generation. You won't join/attempt to improve (by action not the flapping of that loose flesh on the front of your head) and you expect the AMA to pay attention to you, provide answers to your questions AND on top of this discuss the financials/business of the AMA with you. Yep kind of delusional on your part.

Your whole premise is that the AMA isn't answering a group of naysayers on an insignificant toy airplane forum.

The REALITY is, that AMA has not provided that information to ANYONE.

Your trolling is stale....

Junk you will always be a source of entertainment and I have a PC in the shop for breaks like this LOL.

Not a premise I would call it more a fact if anything. Easy to ignore a dozen or so malcontents and it makes it easier that they are all in one place.

The reality is your conspiracy theory is so broad I have no idea what information you are referring to. And this information is not known to anyone?????? HMMMMMM tinfoil hat anyone?????