Chip Hyde's Cap-X - Building & Flying
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I tried to upload some pics but no luck again. Is there something I need to download or install to put pics with my replies? I don't have any problems with ebay or others just RCU.
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From: Alta Loma, CA
Looks good! Let us know how she flies.
Is that a 20x8 prop on the BME 50? If it is I would say it is too small. I would go with a 22x8. See ya!
Is that a 20x8 prop on the BME 50? If it is I would say it is too small. I would go with a 22x8. See ya!
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From: Hampton Cove, AL
Eric, Novaflier was gracious to Pm me with his personal comments about my inquiry. Guys, I'm not trying to offend anyone and I have gone over your thread line in detail. I'm trying to make a final decision about going with this plane, or the Gene Soucy Extra by G.P. Your thread line does not offer much in a comparison. Have any of you had the Soucy Extra, or seen one fly in comparison to the Cap X?
Now that you have made your decision to go with he CAP X any second thoughts about the decision in comparison to the Soucy? Your input would be much appreciated.
I will be using a 160 FX and from what I can tell both planes weigh the same and are the same size. I have seen the videos on both.
Now that you have made your decision to go with he CAP X any second thoughts about the decision in comparison to the Soucy? Your input would be much appreciated.
I will be using a 160 FX and from what I can tell both planes weigh the same and are the same size. I have seen the videos on both.
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I haven't even seen a Soucy Extra, but I will say that I was impressed enough with the Cap-x that I bought a second one. I just finished the first and will fly it today. I haven't decieded what I'm going to put in the second yet! Just a note, I was able to balance the Cap with a BME 50 with no extra weight added, the reciever is mounted behind the rudder servo and the 6v batt. is back by the elev. servos. I'll try to get back later today to post on flight performance.
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I've never seen the GP Extra either....Can't help with the comparison.
PM with an e-mail address if you want a copy off the review/build report that I wrote when I assembled my Cap-X...
Richard
PM with an e-mail address if you want a copy off the review/build report that I wrote when I assembled my Cap-X...
Richard
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Guys thanks and much appreciated. I decided on the Soucy Extra after reading your forum on the product. Sounds like a very fine airplane. Just needed to make a decision and felt as a personal preference this would be better for me at this time. Good luck with your Cap X and have fun.
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In case anyone is interested, it is excellent with the BME 50! I'm still tinkering with the cg. I started at 3 1/4" but it needs to go back some for blenders and such. Other than that it's very predictable and at 12lbs 2oz's it lands easy. I'm trying to take it easy on the engine till it ts broken in but obviously unlimited vert.
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From: Alexandria, VA
Had a bad day today. Weather was perfect. No wind, lots of sun and hardly anyone at the field. Had a flameout on take off. Don't understand it, but what ya' gonna do. Funny thing is, before I taxied for takeoff, I had ran the engine up, and then picked up the plane, ran it up and shook it up adn down vertically to check for a lean condition...worked PERFECT...Needless to say, the wings are not what they used to be..
[link=https://home.comcast.net/~rcav8or/Flameout.wmv]Flameout[/link]
[link=https://home.comcast.net/~rcav8or/Flameout.wmv]Flameout[/link]
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I'm sorry to hear that.
I'll sell you mine if you want a new one with about 15 flights on it. In fact, I'll sell it to anyone out there reading this thread. I'm going to post it in the for sale section, sometime soon. I also have a Patty w/ ZDZ50 that I'm going to sell.
The Cap X is a great plane. I just need to make room for a 35%.
Drew
I'll sell you mine if you want a new one with about 15 flights on it. In fact, I'll sell it to anyone out there reading this thread. I'm going to post it in the for sale section, sometime soon. I also have a Patty w/ ZDZ50 that I'm going to sell.
The Cap X is a great plane. I just need to make room for a 35%.
Drew
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Had a bad day today. Weather was perfect. No wind, lots of sun and hardly anyone at the field. Had a flameout on take off. Don't understand it, but what ya' gonna do. Funny thing is, before I taxied for takeoff, I had ran the engine up, and then picked up the plane, ran it up and shook it up adn down vertically to check for a lean condition...worked PERFECT...Needless to say, the wings are not what they used to be..
[link=https://home.comcast.net/~rcav8or/Flameout.wmv]Flameout[/link]
Had a bad day today. Weather was perfect. No wind, lots of sun and hardly anyone at the field. Had a flameout on take off. Don't understand it, but what ya' gonna do. Funny thing is, before I taxied for takeoff, I had ran the engine up, and then picked up the plane, ran it up and shook it up adn down vertically to check for a lean condition...worked PERFECT...Needless to say, the wings are not what they used to be..
[link=https://home.comcast.net/~rcav8or/Flameout.wmv]Flameout[/link]
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I just need the wings... Sent an email to Don at Planes Plus. If they aren't too expensive I will replace them, otherwise I will have to fix it, and it'll look like crud....
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Just thought I'd make a comment about this airplane...
My buddy brought one out to the field yesterday and it got my attention. His setup is with a MOKI 1.8 with MJLK 18 x 10 prop.
NICE I thought to myself. Built rather well and nicely covered. Everything about this airplane is pretty nice....
His engine was acting up first and ended taking the cowl off to tune. After realizing that the problem was in the tank we also notice his rudder became unsecured. I spent about an hour working on it for him and got him backup to snuff. Rudder now works great and the ENGINE is a powerhouse.
The test flight was too funny...Take off was just the application of slightly about idle and no elevator input... the airplane was flown around a little bit an we all said ...ooooohhhh aaaaaahhhh. Very sensitive elevator for sure and snappy (maybe incorrect CG, don't know, still flew nice though) I was asked if I wanted to fly it and said sure, Liked it a lot till the engine acted up again, over heated me thinks? Not sure. I handed the TX back to our ACE test pilot to get it on the ground. What was funny was that even at idle and full down trim the airplane flew way too hot to land....this was funny. Here we are with an airplane that the engine is basically stuck running at idle and can't land it. FINALLY the engine ran out of gas...(thank goodness for the small tank on the moki 1.8) The airplane bobbed up and down a little before if finally got it's wheels down.
My thoughts on this! Nice airplane a little hyper sensitive tail(could have just been his set up and CG)
MOKI 1.8...A LOT OF POWER I bet you could fly this airplne on a 1.20 Four Stroke and still have a great flying airplane.
My buddy brought one out to the field yesterday and it got my attention. His setup is with a MOKI 1.8 with MJLK 18 x 10 prop.
NICE I thought to myself. Built rather well and nicely covered. Everything about this airplane is pretty nice....
His engine was acting up first and ended taking the cowl off to tune. After realizing that the problem was in the tank we also notice his rudder became unsecured. I spent about an hour working on it for him and got him backup to snuff. Rudder now works great and the ENGINE is a powerhouse.
The test flight was too funny...Take off was just the application of slightly about idle and no elevator input... the airplane was flown around a little bit an we all said ...ooooohhhh aaaaaahhhh. Very sensitive elevator for sure and snappy (maybe incorrect CG, don't know, still flew nice though) I was asked if I wanted to fly it and said sure, Liked it a lot till the engine acted up again, over heated me thinks? Not sure. I handed the TX back to our ACE test pilot to get it on the ground. What was funny was that even at idle and full down trim the airplane flew way too hot to land....this was funny. Here we are with an airplane that the engine is basically stuck running at idle and can't land it. FINALLY the engine ran out of gas...(thank goodness for the small tank on the moki 1.8) The airplane bobbed up and down a little before if finally got it's wheels down.
My thoughts on this! Nice airplane a little hyper sensitive tail(could have just been his set up and CG)
MOKI 1.8...A LOT OF POWER I bet you could fly this airplne on a 1.20 Four Stroke and still have a great flying airplane.
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From: Tomball,
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Nova,
Ouch!! [&o]
That looked painful. Sorry to hear see it go in that way. How did the motor box/firewall hold up? Any damage in the wing attachement plates, etc? How about the fuse, it's so lightly built, how'd it do?
Any idea what hapened, sounded like it was running OK. Are you using a pump or regulator? Is it possible it wasn't fully fueled?
While you've got the bottom of the wing open, snap some pics of the internal structure for the morbidly curious to see how it's built...
Wagas,
Sounds like the one you flew was tail-heavy? I've got the same setup (Moki 180 and Hitec 5925's in the tail) and the 1800mah all the way in the nose and it balances perfect. Also, the recommended low rate rudder is just enough to induce a high speed stall (snap) and can seem quite sqirrelly if you horse around with the elevator on low rates. I tried Sunday to get into a harrier on low rates, and all it would do was roll over ant full up on low rates. If you go to 3D rates (45+ degrees elevator) it can be pushed right through the stall into a harrier/elevator/hover without rocking the wings or rolling over on it's back. Like any 3D type plane, you can't sneak into stalled flight, it's all or nothing.
Richard
Ouch!! [&o]
That looked painful. Sorry to hear see it go in that way. How did the motor box/firewall hold up? Any damage in the wing attachement plates, etc? How about the fuse, it's so lightly built, how'd it do?
Any idea what hapened, sounded like it was running OK. Are you using a pump or regulator? Is it possible it wasn't fully fueled?
While you've got the bottom of the wing open, snap some pics of the internal structure for the morbidly curious to see how it's built...

Wagas,
Sounds like the one you flew was tail-heavy? I've got the same setup (Moki 180 and Hitec 5925's in the tail) and the 1800mah all the way in the nose and it balances perfect. Also, the recommended low rate rudder is just enough to induce a high speed stall (snap) and can seem quite sqirrelly if you horse around with the elevator on low rates. I tried Sunday to get into a harrier on low rates, and all it would do was roll over ant full up on low rates. If you go to 3D rates (45+ degrees elevator) it can be pushed right through the stall into a harrier/elevator/hover without rocking the wings or rolling over on it's back. Like any 3D type plane, you can't sneak into stalled flight, it's all or nothing.
Richard
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Your buds plane is definetly tail heavy. The CAPX is very sensitive to correct CG. My first flight was the same way you descriped.
quite uncofortable-check out my posts in the first part of this thread- but moving the CG just forward of the recommemded 3.5 inches makes a world of difference, including the landing. Elevator throw on low should only be around 10 degrees, that will be plenty for normal aerobatics. Out of the 3, 3d planes I own right now DP EDGE, WH EXTRA, and the CAPX, the CAPX is the only one that will harrier comfortably without wing rocking, but the other two are far less sensitve to elevator inputs due to being larger and longer. Get the CG forward and sneak up on the throws and it is a very good plane.
zonk
Your buds plane is definetly tail heavy. The CAPX is very sensitive to correct CG. My first flight was the same way you descriped.
quite uncofortable-check out my posts in the first part of this thread- but moving the CG just forward of the recommemded 3.5 inches makes a world of difference, including the landing. Elevator throw on low should only be around 10 degrees, that will be plenty for normal aerobatics. Out of the 3, 3d planes I own right now DP EDGE, WH EXTRA, and the CAPX, the CAPX is the only one that will harrier comfortably without wing rocking, but the other two are far less sensitve to elevator inputs due to being larger and longer. Get the CG forward and sneak up on the throws and it is a very good plane.
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Well, I guess that Planes Plus is no longer working with Chip. I called Chip today, he is out of the country and his employee has no idea about selling me a set of wings. Hopefully Chip will be able to get back to me. I sent a message to Planes Plus, but did not get a reply. I think they are all done with the Hyde line, hope there was no bad blood. I liked Don & Carla, they were really nice and a pleasure to deal with.
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Chip placed a NEWS item on his website concerning the change...
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From: Oklahoma City, OK
Try looking at the Moki 1.80 muffler for the engine not dying.My bisson pitts muffler comes loose all the time,it is a big pain in the a##.I have tried everything loctite blue red green,permatex ultra copper,all kinds of stuff.Tonight I plan on drilling two holes thru the muffler stand off to the
center of were the bolts go thru.Then I will be able to put a bolt thru the side to make kinda of a set screw to hold the muffler on.
Anyway when my muffler comes loose the engine will not die,it will set for ever and run.You can
run the needle all the way in or out and it will not die.So if you are having the same problems make sure the muffler is tight first.
center of were the bolts go thru.Then I will be able to put a bolt thru the side to make kinda of a set screw to hold the muffler on.
Anyway when my muffler comes loose the engine will not die,it will set for ever and run.You can
run the needle all the way in or out and it will not die.So if you are having the same problems make sure the muffler is tight first.



