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Old 07-28-2004 | 07:48 PM
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MAN, you guys are amking me jelous, I cant wait to get that edge in. I got the red one. looks good.
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The WH rudder looks bigger than BME?

Imagine what you can do with a DA50 in a 15.5-16lbs plane ! It will be a 3D monster guys!!
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All of you that jest received or are going to the BME Edge. The covering below the wing that goes at a 45º to the bottom has jest enough to cover. Do not use a heat gun before you check it out and make sure the edge is sealed. It took me some time to correct the problem. An other 1/4" of covering would have been nice. Other then that all is well. --------------------------------------------------As for the rudder, the BME's is taller and Wild Hare is longer. Why; who knows but the BME's is proportionally the same as a 35% Carden.
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Old 07-29-2004 | 07:08 AM
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What kind of covering does BME Edge have? Monokote, Ultracote, Chinesecote??
Old 07-29-2004 | 07:19 AM
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Good heads up there Ronk1,

I see that they did cut very little excess as it wraps under the fuse at that angle... I can see why, as it's a tough spot to cut a straight line on...

I would have wrapped the side convering onto the bottom stringer and cut it on the inside of the stringer.... then covered the bottom and trimmed to the outside of the stringer so I had a full 1/4" lap...

While not a "biggie", report it to Max.. I'll do likewise...

Yeah the rudder is narrower at the top than the WH, but again, with maybe 1.5 lbs less weight, it wouldn't need as much rudder...


Everything looks well made and designed... plenty of room for installation... here are a few detail observations.


I was wrong about the cowls ability to slide back and forth a full 1" or so... the design has the blind nuts installed for the cowl already behind the F1 former. So you need to lap at least that much + a bit for attachment... Unless you change the cowl mounting method/location of blind nuts... which wouldn't be a hard thing to do...

For those who would liek a different scheme, the trim scheme is applied on a solid white plane. A person could easily remove it and have a white plane with the hatch matching the second color... red or teal. The wings, stabs and fuse sides could then be customized to your hearts content...

I kinda like it tho.


Wheels are tough but very lightweight.

Gear seems nice and light but adequate and is prepainted white with two screws holes drilled for securing pants.

Pants are lightweight and ply-supported/predrilled for the axle.

The plane comes with hingepoints and predrilled holes. The holes are even squared to allow the hingepoint to seat properly.

The canopy is pre-painted and has a medium tint.

The wingtube fit is a snug but not annoyingly tight fit.

Covering was well applied with only a small wrinkle or two.

The wings and stabs fit against the fuse nicely with no gaps to speak of.

The cowl is just the right "heft" for this plane... not too thin but not too heavy either... it is painted nicely... I only noticed a couple very small pinholes on the bottom.

The landing gear plate/block looks a little fragile in design, but I notice that it's been pinned in the front (and probably on the sides too) and then tristocked so it should be fine.

All the hardware is U.S., but the wheel collars must go... A set of good DuBro's for $1.89 will solve that problem. Look's like 3/16"

Hardpoints are large ply plates... I like that it allows me to tweak the position of the control hardware.


All-in-all a really nice offering. Duuble boxed and packed well with additional foam peanuts. Comes in two boxes.
Old 07-29-2004 | 07:23 AM
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It's not the first two...

But it does seem of good quality (not that thin crap that tears when you look at it cross-eyed).... It has a slight texture to the inside... glossy as Monokote.

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What kind of covering does BME Edge have? Monokote, Ultracote, Chinesecote??
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:05 AM
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Hi; I been looking atthe Extreem Flight YaK 87"-WS there smaller one is great plane. Been watching this BME post. It look like this is going to be good flying plane. I have WH EDGE with a DA-50 just a great flying plane. My WH came in at 16.2 lbs. Looking forward to see how they fly
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:31 AM
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Can you give us a quick hardware list describing how you can weight 16.2lbs on your WH Edge please and how does it balance to the CG? When did you buy it? It would help to select the right hardware stuff for the BME Edge.

(Out of topic)
I am flying the Extreme Flight Edge 540T for 2 months and it's amazing to see what can do this small plane! Inverted climb flat spin at full throttle with an OS46FX and tower muffler and hover at half throttle...
Futhermore, Chris give a first class customer service!
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Old 07-29-2004 | 09:11 AM
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Ditto on that... I have the EF Mini 3D, Profile Edge and 68" Yak now (awesome planes) and a 87" Yak coming.

Simply top notch stuff all around.


Airo... 16.2 lbs is amazing. Mine was 17 1/4 (give or take an oz.) and I built it light... no wheel plants... lighter gear & wingtube... many are reporting 17.5+... I can only assume you used carbon fibre stuff...

If a person wanted to go to that expense with the BME, I think they'd get it close to 15 lbs...
Old 07-29-2004 | 09:57 AM
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My WH Edge with ZDZ 60 came out at 18.5 lbs built stock and without wheel pants.
Old 07-29-2004 | 08:42 PM
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This airplane goes together fast. Engine in, one side of surfaces hinged, wings and stabs on, vinyl graphics on. The graphics took a little thought, the sticky face comes separate. This must be for shipping reasons. After you see how to do them its very easy. I checked all of the incidents; they are right on. I hope all of them are as good. BTW the four stars (two on the wing two on the rudder) are gone. I think they looked bad, It looks cleaner with out them. They also looked like a Chinese flag.
Old 07-30-2004 | 07:51 AM
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Go baby go!

Get 'er in the air and let us know...
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Hi;How I got my WH-Edge to 16.2 lbs DA-50 With slimline pitts muf. Carbon fiber wing tube,landing gear, and wheel pants, and tail wheel. One reciever, two Jaccio reg. Powerflite lith 2000 on ignition, 2400 on reciever. One JR-8611 pull-pull on rud, two JR 8411 one on each wing, and two JR 8411 on each elev half. Two lite weight 3 1/2 wheels. No pilot or inst. panel. Used all Nelsons hardware. The DA-50 is an awsome engine its lite and gets stronger w/each gal and very smooth.I am using 22-10 NX prop, I just ordered a NX 24-8 this will improve proformance even more. This plane was out of the first batch delievered bought through Tom at WH. My CG is at 4 3/4 from leading edge of wing. I would like to set up a BME this way, I think this compenation would be awsome. Good luck everyone. I"ll be waiting for the first flight report.
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Can you give us a quick hardware list describing how you can weight 16.2lbs on your WH Edge please and how does it balance to the CG? When did you buy it? It would help to select the right hardware stuff for the BME Edge.

(Out of topic)
I am flying the Extreme Flight Edge 540T for 2 months and it's amazing to see what can do this small plane! Inverted climb flat spin at full throttle with an OS46FX and tower muffler and hover at half throttle...
Futhermore, Chris give a first class customer service!
Old 07-30-2004 | 08:40 AM
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Nice setup... that would probably do it!

Yeah, on the BME... I am really expecting somewhere between 15.5 and 16 lbs stock... so 15 lbs should be doable with that lighter stuff... it would save maybe 3/4 lbs itself...


Where did you get the CF wingtube?
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Does anyone know FOR SURE what type of covering they use on the EDGE? Hopefully (like WH) they use Ultracoat/Oracover, or at least Monocote. I learned my lesson years ago with cheap, thin, low-cost budget films...

Thanks,
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Old 07-30-2004 | 10:15 AM
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Others have reported it in neither, but rather an off brand that is a bit transparent. One gentleman sent his Pitts Challenger back because he didn't like the covering (he could see the wood through the covering). I don't think I would send it back because of that but he sure was disappointed.
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As I stated a few posts back... the covering is NOT Ultra/Monokote... It's another brand.

I can't speak for the Challenger, but the Edge I have here looks beautiful... no transparency (except for the stars white on dark colors, which I too am removing).

You get the normal lighter areas where light passes thru the lightening cutouts in the fuse sides.

Other than that the covering appears to be strong and sticks to itself VERY well. Removing the stars left some glue residue that was easily removed with Monokote trim solvent.

However, if Mono/Ultra cote is a prerequisite... this plane is not for you.




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Does anyone know FOR SURE what type of covering they use on the EDGE? Hopefully (like WH) they use Ultracoat/Oracover, or at least Monocote. I learned my lesson years ago with cheap, thin, low-cost budget films...

Thanks,
Lee
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Hi; You can get difference sizes CF tubes from Desert Aircraft.
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Nice setup... that would probably do it!

Yeah, on the BME... I am really expecting somewhere between 15.5 and 16 lbs stock... so 15 lbs should be doable with that lighter stuff... it would save maybe 3/4 lbs itself...


Where did you get the CF wingtube?
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16.2lbs is the best i have read in RCU for WH Edge...

1) Did you replace the tail tube by CF too?
2) Do you know the weight of these Jaccio volt regulators and the max amp?

Nice set-up man!
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Thanks for the complement. A little pricee but well worth it. No CF tail tube, I couldn't find anyone who makes them. The Jaccio reg are light [never weigh them] very dependabe never ever had any proplems. The max amps ranges between 5.6 to 5.8. Just right. I am looking forward to hear about the new BME and how they fly. I was looking at an 87" YAK, this also looks darn good. What do you think; 87" YAK w/DA-50 up front w/a 22-12 prop?
Old 07-30-2004 | 07:39 PM
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I have seen a video somewhere here in RCU with the EF YAK87'' DA50, 15.5lbs and a tune pipe! Probably unlimited vertical at 1/3 throttle!
Chris Hinson flies his plane like an helicopter

Here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_19...tm.htm#1976855

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Old 07-30-2004 | 08:17 PM
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Great video, that YAK is awsome. Thanks for the info. I think I'am going to get the 87" YAK for now, and put my new DA-50 in it. I'll give the BME a couple of months before I pick one up.
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The 87" Yak is likely to be the best aircraft for 2004/2005...

It's not available yet tho... If all goes well they are supposed to get them in around the end of August/1st of September...

Still if you want one, get on the list...

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All the parts are on, all I need to do is the final touches ! We do have a flying weight though 15 Lbs 10 oz not bad, not bad at all[8D]. The only change from stock is a Graph Tech tail wheel. I do question the recommended CG 3.5 to 4.5 seems like it would be nose heavy. The Hanger 9 120 size is 4.5 to 5.25. What do you think?
Old 08-01-2004 | 08:49 AM
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I think there is a problem[]. The airplane balances at 5.5", in order to get it to the recommended 4.5" it would take 12oz of nose weight. This is with a Graph Tech tail wheel and batteries foreword as much as possible! My engine is a FPE 3.2, light but not less then a BME 50 or DA 50 with the needed motor mounts. I sure hope the recommended CG is a misprint or the weight issue is void[:@].


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