Yes. It's just that simple. Yes, it's worth it.

Thanks for your opinon,it's just that i've not been able to see one in person yet,or even speak with a owner.I seen Dave out in Toledo this spring and of course this cub was the next best thing sence sliced bread,which it probably is. Please keep all the assembly tips coming, I'm sure we can use them. I will call Sandy tommorow. I have a new Satio 182 twin looking for a home,do you think this will take away from the cub's good flight characteristics,being heavier than the recommond power?

Hayman1: PM'd ya.

What about total weight and the cg issues with a heavy twin up front?

See Dick Pettit's post on the previous page about weight with a twin...no mention of cg.

With the OS 160 twin on 2" dowel stand-offs, an onboard glow lighter stuffed next to the fuel tank and the receiver with 5 cell NiMH battery just aft of tank on floor (servos in stock location in tray), CG was exactly where the book says to start. Plenty of room to shift battery aft to make it a litle more tail heavy if necessary.

With the use of lighter engines like the Saito 120 - 150, some nose weight may be necessary to balance.

Plan on an all-up weight in the 14 - 15 pound range without all the extra weight I added.

Still very light for a plane this size.

I see what you used for the receiver battery. What battery did you use for the onboard glow system? Thx! John

The ElectroDynamics glow lighter has an option to use a pair of 1500 maH nicads in series when used on a twin cylinder engine.

Basically the 2 glow plugs are also wired in series.

http://www.electrodynam.com/images/Products/twin.jpg

Pettit,

Wish I had read your post before I ran CA (a lot) clear thru the horz stab. What a mess and cannot use acetone in my garage, house A/C & gas heater close to my workbench and 113F outside. Big sweat getting that cleaned up. Which leads to.........

My garage floor is finished in a two part epoxy paint which makes for a very hard slick surface.

A while back I was mounting CA hinges on the tail feathers of another model. Had the tail hanging over the bench and the CA bottle was plugged, squeezed real hard and the extension popped of the bottle and hosed the whole tail down.

I swore, jumped up and my bare feet were instantly glued to the floor. Ball of foot and heel on the right and heel on the left. Wife is not due for several hours, the garage is around 90F and warming up fast and my feet are close together and at such an angle it is hard to stand.

Can't reach the phone (911 would think an idiot was calling anyway) help my feet are stuck!

After some time used the airplane to open a cabinet door to my far right and knocked several cans/bottles of paint and stuff (broke two bottles) onto the floor, including a can of acetone.

The only things to work with within reach were an x-acto knife and a small flat bladed screw driver and the prop blade I managed to break off. Took over three hours to get free and every time the air handler for the house A/C would cycle I thought I was going up in a ball of flame.

Hard to tell which hurt worse, my feet or back. There is still meat glued to my garage floor, although I came out the next morning and the ants were having a nice lunch at my expense.

I have a real love/hate thing about CA anyway. Also I have not worked in bare feet since. Funny now, not so funny then.

Back to the Cub.

IMHO it looks like if one is going with a twin OS 160 is the best choice, the Saito 182 would be a tight fit and I think too much prop for the plane to sit still at idle on pavement. Wish someone had tried one.

Also hope the Saito flex pipes with the pressure fitting will fit the OS. Anyone know?

Does anyone have a source for a large tank that will fit without protruding into the cockpit? Once I am lucky enough to get something into the air I like to fly it for awhile.

Glad to hear others think the hinge slots for the tail were a *****, thought I was being a wuss.

Got a huge batch of photos of the airplane this one was modeled after, if I can ever get the scanner to post to email will post some.

Bud, that door is going to be a bigger problem than you think, it goes clear to the front windshield post. Also the back seat is positioned about dead center in the back window. This means for a scale two seat setup the bulkhead with the servo tray has to be cutout to the bottom of the frame.

Not sure yet but I think the servos, rx etc. will fit under the floorboards. Still having a problem finding scale looking pilots, which will determine the height of the floorboards.

Also agree that with the exception of the wood screws the hardware is excellent, man what a tail wheel setup.

One more thing, look at the nav light setup from ElectroDynamics, is this neat or what?

Dr. pepper, i'm sorry but I had to laugh at your bare foot problem, what a great story! Like you said...not funny then but when you think back Have you looked at pilots by diane for a figure? I bought one awhile back in 1/4 scale. [email protected] she even reduced my flight patch from air combat and put it on my figure. Think i'll put darker glasses on him though.

Bud,

You are right, it is very funny now. One of the club members about had a heart attack laughing so hard.

Thanks for the tip but I cannot make Pilots-by-Diane work, do you have a phone number?

That's an old e-mail addy I had for them but here's the brochure with the phone #
It's John Chavalier's wife who makes them....he competes at top gun and scalemasters.

Petit-

I just ordered the dual glow lighter from Electodynamics. It comes with two Twin 1900SCR NiCds. Are these the 1500 MAH you were talking about? If not, do you think I should call them to get the bigger battery size? I usally use the "Expert" system but haven't had much luck with them when it comes with twins. Thanks for your help.
The plane will be here in two days and I have everything for it.


John

John, I think Dick said the 1500 was optional. May get one of those myself if my bank account ever recovers from the kit and an OS 160 What color cub did you get and what engine are you using?



Bud

I talked to Greame Mears himself when I ordered the Cub. I couldn't belive I was talking to "Mr Cub" himself. I was going to go with white but then wanted to be traditonal and ordered the yellow. I went with the Magnum 160 twin because rumor has it that it has a bit more snot. The carb is bigger on the Magnum. I've had good success with this engine in the past. I had it in a T-craft I sold and so I needed to buy another one. I went with JR 537's on the flaps and alerons. Shouldn't be a problem since the control surface is small and I'm running six volts. For the elevator and rudder, I went JR 4721's (high torque) and a mini high torque for the throttle. I also odered Dave's intrument panel and extension package. I'm using a 1/4 scale civilian full body pilot from HP pilots. I don't have it yet but they are getting more pilots in next week. Now all I have to worry about is the tank and spinner. Look forward to assembling it sometime next week. The plane was shipped yesterday.

Sounds great John, of course you'll provide us with pictures right? Maybe someone will prove me wrong but I think the traditional yellow cub was the J3 and most super cubs were base white...I have seen only two super cubs in yellow and both were on floats. What does the extension package consist of?



Bud

Not sure what is consists of. All I know is that hey are color coded. I will take pic's.

Well I bit the bullet today as well,ordered the yellow supercub from Mr,Mears as well.I asked him what his thoughts were on the Satio 182,He said it should be a perfect match.I was a little conserned with the extra weight,but he said that wouldn't be a worry! Like the before mentioned post talking with Mr,Mears about building my own cub was quite a unexpected experience.I also was under the asumption that everyone that runs twins uses a auto glow driver?Seeing this would be my first twin setup is it recommened?

OK, I give up. Need help on the flaps. If I mount them with the airfoil up they extend above the wing about 1/4 inch and the control horn will not clear the upper wing panel overhang.

Try the other flap on the same side and it looks like the underslung flaps on my Stuka. I have had these left, right, upside down , right side up, etc........... What am I missing?

If some of you are convinced the Saito 182T will work please let me know soon so I can cancel my order for the OS 160. Much rather have the 182T.

Old hot rod saying about horesepower being like sex and money, ain't never enough.

Thanks

On both the flaps and ailerons, push the hinges in the movable surfaces far enough that the pivot point is close to the edge of the surface.

Then push the hinge onto the TE of the wing until the aileron or flap is even with the top of the wing.

The hinge will not be fully inserted into the wing TE. This is OK.

It's also the only way to get full aileron travel.

BTW, I'm test flying mine today if the wind doesn't get up too high. It's a white one with an OS 160 twin, 16.5 pounds dry.

Maybe a photo or 2 on Monday.

FYI, Electrdynamics onboard glow package comes with 1900 MAH packs and it's only $45.00. Compared to "Experts" you will save a bit of cash. John

John, isn't that in addition to the $40.00 for the glow-lite?

You're right! My bad. I knew it was too much of a good thing. Bummer!

What the hey....still gotta get one, it's only green paper

Flap problem solved.

With Dave Patricks help the problem was found to be the holes in the left wing were drilled about 3/8 of an inch too high. They should be right on the bottom edge, these wire above that which set the whole flap up too high.

Dave offered to send a new wing and flap but I did not want to wait. Redrilled the holes about a 1/4 inch off to one side of the old ones, recovered a 1/2 " strip of the LE of the flap and the TE of the wing to hide the old holes and am a happy camper.

The right wing was perfect.

Looks like I ran into Charlie Chan having a little too much wine the night before work.

FYI - Patrick said the yellow Super Cubs are known as the Piper Vero Beach Cubs. The last 40 or 50 Cubs made by Piper back in the 80s were all a high gloss finish and done in the J-3 paint scheme.

Good luck Pettit on your test flight. Can't wait to hear from you. How was the straight up with the OS 160?