Ok..Will try to post some photos....There are 2 of the fuse and another showing the parts that came with it..I am missing the elevator, but can prob replicate that with a piece of balsa shaped aileron stock from LHS...hope these pics go thru.. the pics do not show the covering..plastic/vinyl stuff on the flying surfaces very well....spoke to Billie at Wings Mfg today..she was very little help..said I needed to talk to Dan...

joe

Meteor ? Banshee ? Troublemaker ?

Crank

Robert - Good work. I have had a lot of gel coat fuselage's, and still have some, never thought of taking it off.

Vince

Joe,
Looks to me like a Super Hunter. Originally designed and kitted by Bob Campbell of R/C Kits in Ohio. The original balsa kit was a challenge, like many of the day lots of balsa blocks and carving was involved. If you persisted it was a nice flying plane. The glass fuse version should be just the ticket.

George

Ponda,

It looks a lot like this airplane in this pic. It is misrepresented as a Vertigo II on the Classic Pattern Image Base

http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/patte...ternuvwxyz.htm

If you folow this link, you will see a blue and white plane there misrepresented as a "Vertigo". It could be that the names got switched around inadvertently, and the yellow airplane is a "Vertigo", or "Vertigo 1". I do not know if this is the case, or if there was ever a "Vertigo (1)". You will also see the tail of the yellow airplane in the photo. This may shed some light on the confusion. Also taking into account that a lot of the information comes from the dusty memory banks we have of yesteryear, so some nebulosity should not be unexpected.

Also, please understand that I am not saying that anyone is intentionally misrepresenting anything on the very awesome Classic Pattern Image Base. The author simply identifies the pics by the names given to him by the contributors.

If someone can positively identify the yellow airplane, we may then be able to positively identify your airplane. But you can be assured that it is not a Vertigo II.

-Best regards,
Robert Fish

Yellow plane looks like Blue Angel to me???

Well... whatever it is . I am going to try my dangdes(sp) to finish it....Was really interesting walking through time looking at all the really neat planes of yesterday
in the Classic Pattern Planes site...Now it seems no one has any pride or whatever to build something that is really their own..Like how many Mustangs or Big Sticks can yon have at one field? At least thats the way it is at my field...

What about the plastic sheeting on this plane...Is/was that something that was on the kits back in the 70's or whenever..I was flying UC combat back then..
and there was nothing like that on anything I was familiar with...

thx...joe

The wing, ailerons, stab and wing joining parts look like parts from a Lanier RC 60 size ARF. They were used on the Jester, etc.

Vince,

The gel coat is just dead weight. It is useful for leveling the surfaces if you are diligent with a sanding block. The block is key (a valuable lesson from Bob Smith). You can hand-sand the gel coat away, but you will lose the benefit of leveling the low spots. You will end up with a wavy surface. You need that hard surface of the block to bridge the gaps.

I have a "before" weight, and I will borrow the work scale again to get an "after" weight. I am curious to see just how much weight that I have removed from the fuselage. It definitely feels lighter, but I want a number to back that up.

-Robert

Thanks Robert. The Skyglas Phoenix 6's I have, two were gel coat, but not epoxy. The epoxy fuselage's that are here, were packaged plain, no gel coat. Did they gel coat the poly fuse's only?

V

Vince,
As far as I know, Skyglas never made epoxy glass fuselages. They were all polyester. I have a non gel coated fuselage. It's the one that I started the build thread with. It is polyester. Check yours. Give them the old scratch-and-sniff test. By this I mean sand a small area inside the fuselage. Then smell it. If it smells like polyester resin, then it is not epoxy. Polyester has that distinct "sweet" smell (Styrene Monomer). Just take the top off of a can of polyester resin and give it a sniff. I would be willing to bet that the fuselages that you have that are sans gel coat are indeed polyester.


-Robert

Epoxy, the Smell Test. Yes, I agree, and have always thought that. The Phoenix 6 I am working on now, bought along with a Mach I, about 2 years ago. He brought the kit's out, set on tarmac, while I looked at his stash. Skyglas box, long gone, it was bad, but it was an epoxy fuselage.

I am going to check it out, especially the control rod exit's under the stab, vs. the one P-6 I have finished here. Let you know, what I am thinking now, did I get another mfg. P-6 epoxy fuse in a SkyGlas box?

V

Well..mystery may be solved, but it poses other questions....Folks at Wing Mfg said that that mystery plane looked like
a F-1 Tomcat..and it does.

But everything was in a Sky Glas huge box...guess in over 30 years someone could have used one kit's box for another plane..Who knows...

Anyway..look at this pic..it certainly looks like it!!

Well..mystery may be solved, but it poses other questions....Folks at Wing Mfg said that that mystery plane looked like
a F-1 Tomcat..and it does.

But everything was in a Sky Glas huge box...guess in over 30 years someone could have used one kit's box for another plane..Who knows...

Anyway..look at this pic..it certainly looks like it!! It was on that Classic Pattern site...

Dang..did not mean to do duplicate post,,hit "edit"..but couldn't find a way to delete posts..
Sorry...

joe

No problem, Joe. It looks like you have a unique find there. I agree with 8187, those wing and tail part look very Lanier. Do a build thread. It will be something unique. Who knows, it may even fly well.

-Robert

I just picked up a Vertigo II fuse and plans at a swap meet for $10.00... Has the white gel coat and I have not tested for epoxy or poly layup.. My set of plans show a straight stab..
The good part the designer lives in Fl and I have his email addy and waiting for a reply on several questions.

scott
Classic Pattern Association

Scott,

That is an awesome find. I am interested in what the designer has to say. I sent you a PM.

-Robert

I have another complete Vertigo II kit here, with the Sig veneer skin's. Any significance to that ?

Crank

What horizontal stab does it have .. anhedrial or straight..

my plans show straight


scott

I have two sets of plans. One shows a straight tail ,and the other (obviously added to a later edition) shows anhedral. See pic 1. I have built them both ways- both fly great. I am building this one with anhedral because it reflects the time frame from my old Vertigo days when anhedral was the "in" thing. And it just looks kool.

Pic 2: Got cores?

Vince, My best guess would be that someone started that kit many moon ago, then got distracted by a shiny object. I did my second Vertigo (back in the day) using 1/64 ply veneers. Strong as heck, very nice base for finishing, and heavy compared to balsa. A square inch of veneer weighs about the same as 1/8 balsa.

-Robert

My fuse is a white gel.. got to test for epoxy or poly.. what weight foam did you do the cores in ? also wonder on the stab what the latest version was.. waiting for a email from the designer to get some questions.

core cost ?

scott

Scott,

The cores are 1 LB/ft3. I am at work, will PM you with costing when I get home.

-Robert

I bought a set of cores from Robert and they are as good as they get, and he is a gentleman to work with.