Has anyone tried to do full brushless conversion? Mine is set up with A: GWS 6 channel receiver
B: JR g500t
C: Park 370 Brushless
D: 2 Castle creations Pheonix-10 speed controllers
E: Feigeo 12mm brushless tail motor
F: Futaba t9chp
I'm having trouble getting the gyro to work with the speed controller, it seems to turn the speed controller on full blast when it makes a correction and sends it into the opposite direction I think its set on hh instead of std any ideas?

As far as the sticky collective remove the blades and the blade grip screws (in the center of the blade grips) there are two washers, reverse the order of the washers. From the factory I think the washers are placed big one toward the center and small at screw head and the large one binds on the grips just reverse them.

Yup T pins and a dremal

[:@] Well I'm pissed right now! Ok, so I got my parts from heliproz quickly and got what I ordered. After dinner I went to replacing the main shaft, blades and installing the new 9t motor. For my first test I left the 10t motor in and did a quick hover. The blade tracking was way off so I got that fixed. Installed the new motor and went out again for a test flight. I had it in a hover for about a minute when I lost tail control. I was close enough to the ground and got it back on the skids no problem. I looked at the LED and it was steady red and the tail motor would not work at all. I figured that it was dead but wanted to reset the 4 in 1. It reset fine and I got a steady green light. Go back into a hover and the same thing happened. I reset it again and hovered for about 1:30 and decided to get a bit higher and away from the wife and kid. Well.....about 15 ft up in a hover and I lost the tail completely. I gave negative to get it down and told the wife to watch it. It hit the ground and started to do the funky chicken even with the throttle all the way down. Looks like I only ruined a set of blades but it still pisses me off. I took it in the garage and tested it while holding it to the desk. I would have it at half stick and it would quit and the LED would flash green/red very fast. Is this the typical 4 in 1 problem? Should I send it back? I'm not new to helis and have successfully flown my blade for a few hours.

I haven't heard anything about the Funky Chicken problem. I would start a new thread for that.

Later

Liteglow, if you haven't gotten your blades let me know, i'll get them to you.

If any one is interested in getting a fix for their tail, the ep50 motor from GWS is amazing. It is a direct drive motor, so you will have to use the DD props. Everyone that i've done that for has met with remarkable results. Your tail rotor control will be wonderfully impacted. If you purchase the GWS motor it will come with motor, diode, and mounting screws. You will have to do some Slight MODing on install to achieve a perfect fit (10 sec worth), But your going to love it.

Hi all
Been reading the post on the blade cp got mine last week i have flown it and called tech support for the answer to this problem tech support had no answer and never heard of a blade doing this , so here's my problem when first taking off i only get it to break ground about 12 inches then i set it down a few times and take off with the same results then all of a sudden it just sky rockets up i am used to it now but at first it caught me off guard anyone else having this problem or know what is causing it no bind in the swash plate and i see the servos move for pitch control also the main motor pulses with trim set to minimum and the t-stick all the way down another thing is no matter what i have set the center 4in 1 pot to in terms of decreasing gyro yaw as tech support indicated the bird keeps pushing to the right i have to hold the stick way over this after it is out of ground effect any ideas or help is appreciated as tech support has no idea's.

Rgs
Dennis

There is a simple fix for you sticking collective problem here in the forums. Basically there are two washers that need to be switched around in the blade grips and that will fix it. For your tail problem did you try to adjust the tail expo? When you adjust the expo you mush unplug the battery then back in for the adjustment to take effect.

viperrj ,
Any chance of getting you to post a picture and a quick how-to on modding the Blade tail with the GWS ep50 kit your talking about?

Hello,

I'm wondering if you folks can give me some advice on how to solve a problem I have with my Blade. I'm new to the R/C helicopter world (and to an R/C forum) and this is my first heli. I have practiced enough that I can keep the Blade hovering in a 5-6 foot square area about 2-3 feet off the ground. Now I'm running into a problem where the heli wants to spin counter-clockwise (looking down on it from on top). I have to hold the left stick a little to the right to keep the heli hovering straight without spinning. I tried adjusting the trim to make the tail rotor spin faster, but that does little to help - it makes taking off difficult more than anything else. I've also tried adjusting the dials on the computer unit on the heli and the problem still persists. Is there something wrong with the tail motor? I have crashed the heli many many times while I was learning how to hover it. I currently have the carbon blades and a lithium 3-cell battery.


Thank you very much for your help!


-Mina

It sounds like your tail motor is getting weak. It would not hurt to try a new one.

Well after several very difficult flights with my buddies E-Flite Blade I finally got it to fly decently, but not even close to my Raptor 50 in stability or control response. Anyway, I found out that if you get close the ceiling, about 3-4", it will basically suck itself into the ceiling and nto want to come down. I was under 1/4 stick in normal mode before it came down. Wish I had been in idle up it would have come off the ceiling much easier. I thought it was kinda funny.

This heli was very difficult to fly at first, enough so that I almost decided not to set it up for him. I was simply fighting it to keep it in the air let alone in a small area. It made the 25'x35' conference room feel very small. Moving the wheel collars at the flybar paddles all the way in increased the cyclic response enough to make it much easier to hold a stable controllable hover. Course now I am worried that I will trash it if I try FF with it, and I fly my heli inverted, backwards, sideways, autos etc. A lot of it is that I am nervous about it not being mine, I guess.

It's really wierd to see the tail rotor stop when piro'ing to the left, having a hard time getting used to that.

I found FF much easer then trying to hover it in one small spot. I also noticed that getting use to it after flying my nitro ship took some time.

Hi Mike
Thanks for the info i have adjusted the 4in1 pot as you described disconnect the batt and then set and re-arm fly same problem maybe it's just the tail drive motor love the little bird though.

Dennis

Try a new tail motor and let us know. I'm going to get a new set of blades and tail motor tonight. I'm going to do the dragonfly gear drive set up like ChopperMcfly on RR. I have been flying with him and it seems to work great.

How do I go about changing out the motor? Looks like I can unscrew it from the tail, but am I supposed to re-solder the connections or thread the long wire through the tail rod? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions; I'm completely new to R/C vehicles.

Yes, I'll take pics and post them tomorrow

Until I get a chance to post the pics, you can go about it by diconnecting the current motor and gear drive mech. Desolder the old motor, note polarity + to +, - to -, remove everthing from the tail section. With a Dremel or X-acto, open the center hole enough to fit the new bigger motor. Install the new motor, screws included with gws motor, and press on the DD prop. Some slight reprogramming of your 4in1 may be necessary and your off. Pics tomorrow.

Here are My Mods to date on my Blade..

I first installed the GWs Tail Mod and 2 Heat Sinks.
Then I updated the landing gear added a tail boom support and fine from Century H.B.
Next I changed back to the 10 tooth gear, because of the added weight from the Struts and boom support. I then added a secound heat sink to the main motor.
Installed C.F. Main Blade's.
1320 lipo.

What I found.

1: No More tail Wag. Pot is set to full on reciever.
2: 10 tooth Gear On main motor gives faster head speed at lower throttle setting, more stable heli, two heat sinks keep's her cool.
3: With added weight of the struts it's stable as all hell, and can take one hard landing.

here are my pic's
http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/ga...emberID=187661

Wow crusader, that Blade is really looking wicked! Gives me something else to think about doing to mine. I just got my LiPo battery in yesterday, I'm still waiting on a replacement frame and canopy, then I'll get the aerobatic kit and go off.

In the meantime, I'm really eyeing the .50-sized Tiger 50 by Audacity Models. I'll probably get it in a couple months after I've gotten proficient enough with the Blade. They say that if you can fly one of the little helis well, you can fly one of the big boys great.

EDIT: Also, I'm starting to consider modifying my blade to brushless power, getting an aftermarket gyro as well as setting it up to work with my soon-to-come-in JR 6102 PCM 6-Channel transmitter. Should be glitch-free, easier to fly, and more reliable. But that's just a thought.

I truely believe that with a heading hold gyro and higher head speed the Blade would be a much easier heli to fly. In stock form I have found it very difficult and a bit nerve racking to fly, but I have no trouble flying a Raptor 50.

It's a very slow heli to respond to control inputs and a bit squirrley.

I went to two of my LHS today to get the GWS DD tail motor and they did not carry it. Anyone have a link to where I can get it as ep50 is not comming up on google? Also, crusader4u, do you by chance have part numbers for the skids and boom you used for your Blade? I gotta say, it does look wicked with all those parts. I just really want to try to get the tail on my Blade more stable. Thanks!

Robart pneumatic air line fits perfectly.

I can get them to anyone that needs the complete set up.

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